Why Joseph Prince is a Cancerous Growth within God's People

[PeterJens]

well yeah bro
so why u still here?
I go ... I no come back...dis a thread for the white washed tomb dwellers

I remember Ember when I commented about something that you shared that your husband was very different to you.
You have a big emotional history, and desire to put people down all the time.

I was encouraged that love has entered you vocabulary, but now you are suggesting we are hypocrites, liars, hard hearted people who are the enemies of Christ.

When Jesus used these terms he had a reason. Your reason appears to be criticism of a lack of theology, bad teaching by wealth and health massively rich preachers who know how to pander to success, who represent the opposite of what Christ meant about putting your riches in heaven and relying on Christ here on earth.

So please share why you feel we are hard hearted lost souls? Or is this just another of your false slanders?

Maybe divorce and pain from your past is being projected on everyone you meet, innocent or not?

 

[PeterJens]

EG...we just need to let them continue to slander others in the body of Christ and stay away from them. Malice affects people when left to it's free reign. It'll get to us too if we continue to interact with this kind of behavior.

This movement is founded on emotional approval. It does not answer questions on the "revealed" truth but rather silences people by merely saying they are inspired by satan, and the worst evil possible.

Muslim teachers use this all the time, and take over a whole society, because it never shows the flaws of the argument.
Those who do argue are persecuted and eventually killed.

Once you submit to this way of approaching truth, truth has left the room.
This is why my respect for these "believers" goes completely because they do not know Christs approach.
Jesus preached and taught that you will discover who he really is by obeying His commands, because they change you.
The tension between the old self, your learnt responses, your natural inclinations is set against your love for God and others. If you rise victorious you rise to the Kingdom of heaven.

What you hear from these people is defeat is what is spirituality. They are already preaching condemnation on themselves and their own lives. Even in Christ they have no victory or resolution because love has not come to dwell in the core of who they are, and they do not understand Jesus, love rules heaven in righteousness and purity.

It is not their fault, you are what you are. It does not change the gospel or what victory actually is.
I just did not understand this is life. It is worthwhile because if just one mortal becomes immortal, things will be left to progress in this life of purgatory until all that can be achieved is finished.

 

[PeterJens]

The spirit in many contributors is obvious.

They regard themselves as the spiritual in the fellowship and express Gods will to everyone else.
I suggest you read this thread to understand where they are and their lostness.

They are into deception and denial, refusing to answer honestly what they stand for and its failure within the theology of faith. Ofcourse emotionally they are 100% commited to their teachers and approvals, which is why they refuse to engage, because it is just too painful, and why should they, they are obviously right and everyone else is wrong.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Its Grace777x70 not Grace7x77.After all these post,I have to ask,Is his name being mispronounced on purpose?

 

[PeterJens]

Its Grace777x70 not Grace7x77.After all these post,I have to ask,Is his name being mispronounced on purpose?

I call grace7x77 because it reminds me I must not just forgive him 7 times but 77 times. Now did Jesus mean once 77 is up I do not have to forgive further, but that is why I use this name.

Is this a problem to you? People know who I mean. I have no reason to show respect for a heretic, or am I being too harsh?
The stuff he promotes makes me whince, because it is just so wrong and deluded.

And his excuse, he used to react like that to. The problem is simple, does the emotional appeal of this theology overcome its obvious flaws? My answer is simple. No. Is Grace7x77 innocent? No. He is an accomplished preacher and should know better but believes his lens leads him to truth rather than is pure delusion which resolves inner emotional conflicts which he cannot resolve any other way. I am to him his enemy, which is a certain way is true, but it is his choosing not mine.

Hope that makes things clear.

 

[B1Davanda]

Its Grace777x70 not Grace7x77.After all these post,I have to ask,Is his name being mispronounced on purpose?

I call grace7x77 because it reminds me I must not just forgive him 7 times but 77 times. Now did Jesus mean once 77 is up I do not have to forgive further, but that is why I use this name.

Is this a problem to you? People know who I mean. I have no reason to show respect for a heretic, or am I being too harsh?
The stuff he promotes makes me whince, because it is just so wrong and deluded.

And his excuse, he used to react like that to. The problem is simple, does the emotional appeal of this theology overcome its obvious flaws? My answer is simple. No. Is Grace7x77 innocent? No. He is an accomplished preacher and should know better but believes his lens leads him to truth rather than is pure delusion which resolves inner emotional conflicts which he cannot resolve any other way. I am to him his enemy, which is a certain way is true, but it is his choosing not mine.

Hope that makes things clear.

I've had enough if this nonsense.

(First, I sometimes write Grace7s or even G7's, but Bruce is a friend of mine and a brother of mine and he knows I mean him no disrespect, I use a touchscreen tablet that doesn't work too well, and my one-finger typing isn't the best, so I abbreviate names within a thread when I am certain ppl know who I'm referring to)

Like now when I say PJ, you should know it's PeterJen, or when I will sign myself B1, it's just a time-saver.

But PJ, for you to come out and say you DELIBERATELY call G7s a heretic and have no reason to respect him is a pretty low blow. Where do you get off with that? Bruce believes in Jesus, wants to give Him the praise and glory for the salvation He's given him, wants to see others get saved, and YOU claim to be a fellow christian while calling him a heretic who deserves no respect?!
Really shameful on your part...REALLY SHAMEFUL.

 

[Karraster]

I call grace7x77 because it reminds me I must not just forgive him 7 times but 77 times. Now did Jesus mean once 77 is up I do not have to forgive further, but that is why I use this name.

Is this a problem to you? People know who I mean. I have no reason to show respect for a heretic, or am I being too harsh?
The stuff he promotes makes me whince, because it is just so wrong and deluded.

And his excuse, he used to react like that to. The problem is simple, does the emotional appeal of this theology overcome its obvious flaws? My answer is simple. No. Is Grace7x77 innocent? No. He is an accomplished preacher and should know better but believes his lens leads him to truth rather than is pure delusion which resolves inner emotional conflicts which he cannot resolve any other way. I am to him his enemy, which is a certain way is true, but it is his choosing not mine.

Hope that makes things clear.

Thanks PeterJens~you did clear up a few things. Perfect example of how we are blindly following so called "preachers of the Word" who know next to nothing about it, probly know more about Gandi and the likes, than the true Messiah. Is that possibly Oprah influence? Isn't she, or doesn't she also have her own "church" now? anyways..Guess we are called sheep for a reason.

Even so, Jesus tells us His sheep will know His voice. How can we know His voice if we do not even bother to read what He says in scripture? He has warned us to watch and pray. How can we watch if we are oblivious to what is going on in the world? The deceptions are everywhere, including the "mega" churchs, including their leaders. Especially their leaders.

 

[PeterJens]

YOU claim to be a fellow christian while calling him a heretic who deserves no respect?!
Really shameful on your part...REALLY SHAMEFUL.

B1 - if someone is teaching and pushing heresy they are a heretic.

How bad a heretic do you have to be to be called one? I am not ashamed of saying this. It is about believing in what you believe in.

Now I disagree with many christian brothers and sisters in the Lord but not when they redefine repentance, salvation, sin, righteousness, heaven, the walk with the Lord. Saying I am evil, doing satans work, or as someone else said a white washed tomb is worse. Now if someone holds to blasphemy, am I called to call them a brother or sister in Christ? No.

Bruce as you call him, believes in a different Jesus to me, but that is fine, if he did not push this evil spirit garbage along with it, with an agenda to persecute and eject good brothers and sisters from the church because he claims they are legalists. There is a big difference between condemning adultery and condemning righteous behaviour of faithful followers of Christ. That is the work satan does, pure and simple.

We are called to identify sin, rebellion against God, things that break relationships, not condemn Gods work and service in peoples lives and the church. But it is this poison Bruce pushes and as such is doing evil in the name of Christ. That is heresy and nothing in scripture supports it, its source is the hyper-grace theology and movement.

 

[UnderGrace]

This accusation that people hate something rather than oppose it is always the lowest form of accusation.
To the reader, I love EG, but over many months he dedicated his mission to tear me down as a legalist, to expose me as evil in my intent to burden people with the law.

I came to cc to share one thing alone, Jesus loves us and came to empower us to walk a Children of the Living God, in love and humbleness.

And for this the hyper-grace group called me possessed, evil, a work of the enemy. Some even said love was old fashioned, implying they were beyond this.

When challenged to define their beliefs long discussions on sin is forgiven for the whole world were gone into.
Judgement for works alone was their conclusion, or the unpardonable sin left was of not believing Christ is the saviour.

Rather than being honest about these doctrinal positions we now have the idea we "hate". It is hard to "hate" if God has put love in your heart. The real problem is these people have lost the argument, but in the end resort to personal attacks and calling that this is un-christ like behaviour.

So my answer is Praise the Lord,

Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 5:10

I am just curious, if you are wiling to answer what do you regard as the unpardonable sin?

Thanks,
Angela Lina