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You can't keep the Law that you think saves you.
You break it,and need a savior.
What is your remedy for your lawlessness?
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You can't keep the Law that you think saves you.
You break it,and need a savior.
What is your remedy for your lawlessness?
"You have heard" is not the same as "It is written". Yes animals has to bleed out after slaying them according to the Torah.
Just adding Scripture references to Popeye's statement...
James 2:10 "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all."
Galatians 3:10-11 "For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a urse; for it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the books of the law, to perform them.'" (NASB)
Lawlessness are those who say "we don't have to be obedient to the law", and ignore He's commandments.
Grace has always been available. Our grace is Jesus Christ which forgives us IF we repent of our sins and practice keeping the commandments.
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Dino246, are you a blood descendant from one of the tribes of the house of Israel ? If not, then what curse are you talking about ? If not they you were never cursed with the curses in the covenant.
he definitely preached a different approach to
law keeping, didn't he?
and he said through Paul
GALATIANS 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
Dan_473, It is impossible to understand the renewed covenant if you do not understand the Torah and the prophets.
Here are some of the "law" to go with your scriptures.
You have broken the law if you have 2 different kinds of seed in a field and if you have worn wool with linen.
Leviticus 19:19 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
And you have also broken the law if you have trimmed your beard. ( If you don't have a beard - that's another bad thing )
Leviticus 19:27 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] 'You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.
If any of the "law-keepers" have done any of these things - you are in deep trouble and guilty of the whole law.....selah
what's your take on this?
ST. MATTHEW 5:21 You have heard that it was said to those of old, You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.
ST. MATTHEW 5:22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, You fool! will be liable to the hell of fire.
is You shall not murder in the written law?
Grace777x70, Yes so repent if you are still doing this. Also the beard and hair thing you do not understand, you are fine as long as you don't do modifications on it to the dead.
Paul and Jesus did not teach something to replace the law. The Law(Torah) tells you how to love your neighbor and how to love God. If your perception of loving God and your neighbor is something contrary to what is written in the Torah, then the Torah is there to show you the correct way of God.
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popeye
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Your leaders have to correct you no?
Now they INTERPRET. Then apply THEIR INTERPRETATION of your transgression.
So now,you have a modern rendering of "heard it said"
Thanks for bringing that out.
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popeye
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Lol
You just told me that " you heard it said" doesn't really count.
You don't realize he turned that dimension of your argument into a pile of rubble.
You stand on it and say "so what"?
Really?
It's funny how the "law-keepers" are the very ones that water down the law to make it "doable" just like the Pharisees did which Jesus exposed this hypocrisy time after time.
Paul said that those who are trying to get others to keep the law cannot keep it themselves.
Galatians 6:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For those who are circumcised do not even keep the Law themselves, but they desire to have you circumcised so that they may boast in your flesh.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Romans 3:19-22 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Nowwe know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;
[SUP]20 [/SUP] because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
[SUP]22 [/SUP] even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;
Paul said that those who are trying to get others to keep the law cannot keep it themselves.
Galatians 6:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For those who are circumcised do not even keep the Law themselves, but they desire to have you circumcised so that they may boast in your flesh.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Romans 3:19-22 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Nowwe know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;
[SUP]20 [/SUP] because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
[SUP]22 [/SUP] even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;