Dear 'BibleGuy' . . .

[royalscot]

Okie dokie smokie.......

what sin

Romans 8: Life in the Spirit
1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit


free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3

set free from the law of sin.

if you don t have a law, how can you sin.

okie dokie smokie.

i dont see any quotes ,to ware you got your law from.

Originally Posted by simplifiedtruth

If you Sin, you grieve the Holy Spirit. If you continue to be a sinner you will be cast forth as a branch, and become spiritually destitute. If you love God and are being led by He's Spirit, you will love the commandments and rejoice in keeping them. It is Gods grace that leads us to repentance towards forgiveness and obedience. Any man who comes to God he will not reject, and will help that person in doing so as long as he wants to. Those who do not want to come to God by shunning He's conviction and drawing is eventually given over to their own lusts, at least for a time for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit might be saved in later time.

 

[Dan_473]

How many times do I have to explain Corinthians chapter 10 to you ? Read before and after. Its meat sold by pagans which MAY have been sacrificed to idols.

pagans are selling it, it may have been sacrificed to idols, it may have touched a pig.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

wrong

history has been recorded for a reason.
you need a law ,to define sin. if you posted that today, then your born in to a new covenant, not a past or old covenant. (committed under the first covenant).
the promised eternal inheritance ,came through a saviour ,not law . so you err big time in you interpretation of scripture.
15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.Hebrews 9

if the first covenant was given to moses, that would need a temple of stone, because of the requirement of this law.


who told you there was a new covenant.

25 In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me."2

the apostiles.
so who explain or told you there was a new covenant. ie hebrews and new testament apostles.

Is the verses I posted wrong ?

You need a Law to have grace. Without a law there is no need for grace, and there is no sin, and there is no need to repent.

How come so many people think that if you are for living righteous and actually obeying Jesus Christ that you are somehow saying you don't need Christ for salvation ?

If you reject the commandments you reject Jesus Christ. He is the Written word that became flesh. He is the one who gave us the commandments. He is the one who told us to teach and obey the commandments in the new testament and old. He is the Word itself.

 

[Dan_473]

What do you mean ? An animal is dead when processing it just like another dead animal next to it. Touching dead animals is the carcase of animals found.

The animal next to it may have been a pig
wouldn't it make sense to ask?

 

[simplifiedtruth]

Thanks you just proved me right.

Did you even read what I said?

Yes. Even if you sin the law has instructions on how to handle it, without Christ in the OT. You can walk blamelessly like it says. The verses I posted shows that the Pharisees were hypocrites who did not keep the law, while others did keep it blamelessly. So many peoples righteousness exceeded that of the Pharisees.

John 1:47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!

 

[simplifiedtruth]

pagans are selling it, it may have been sacrificed to idols, it may have touched a pig.

In that case I believe it would be purified by the fire.

 

[royalscot]

Is the verses I posted wrong ?

You need a Law to have grace. Without a law there is no need for grace, and there is no sin, and there is no need to repent.( wrong) you need a saviour.

How come so many people think that if you are for living righteous and actually obeying Jesus Christ that you are somehow saying you don't need Christ for salvation ? (a gift see, roman 5 in who you got that gift)

If you reject the commandments you reject Jesus Christ. He is the Written word that became flesh. He is the one who gave us the commandments. He is the one who told us to teach and obey the commandments in the new testament and old. He is the Word itself.(when did jesus tell, you about a new covenant. already explained in past post.

don t you listen ,can you give me scripture to you rant.
we dont need act 2 either to explain that all were jewish at penticoste.

acts 10 , when did cornilious repent.
, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.29 So when I was sent for, I came without objection. I ask then why you sent for me."Acts 10: Peter and Cornelius
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paul telling you different.
4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
if he is saying this to a jew. not to follow an old covenant. because there is a new covenant. etc
act 15 what law was given to a gentile. etc etc etc



what law do, i need to believe in a saviour.

For God So Loved the World
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God

 

[FreeNChrist]

what sin

Romans 8: Life in the Spirit
1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit


free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3

set free from the law of sin.

if you don t have a law, how can you sin.

okie dokie smokie.

i dont see any quotes ,to ware you got your law from.

Originally Posted by simplifiedtruth

If you Sin, you grieve the Holy Spirit. If you continue to be a sinner you will be cast forth as a branch, and become spiritually destitute. If you love God and are being led by He's Spirit, you will love the commandments and rejoice in keeping them. It is Gods grace that leads us to repentance towards forgiveness and obedience. Any man who comes to God he will not reject, and will help that person in doing so as long as he wants to. Those who do not want to come to God by shunning He's conviction and drawing is eventually given over to their own lusts, at least for a time for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit might be saved in later time.

I wasn't agreeing with him, I was just cutting him loose and moving on.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

what sin

Romans 8: Life in the Spirit
1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit


free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3

set free from the law of sin.

if you don t have a law, how can you sin.

okie dokie smokie.

i dont see any quotes ,to ware you got your law from.

Originally Posted by simplifiedtruth

If you Sin, you grieve the Holy Spirit. If you continue to be a sinner you will be cast forth as a branch, and become spiritually destitute. If you love God and are being led by He's Spirit, you will love the commandments and rejoice in keeping them. It is Gods grace that leads us to repentance towards forgiveness and obedience. Any man who comes to God he will not reject, and will help that person in doing so as long as he wants to. Those who do not want to come to God by shunning He's conviction and drawing is eventually given over to their own lusts, at least for a time for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit might be saved in later time.

How come people stop at "There is therefore no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus" in Romans 8:1, when the entire verse is:

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

The Carnal mind CANNOT please God, for it is not subject to the law of God. If you are not subject to the law of God then you are living in your flesh and are at enmity against God.

Are you walking in the Flesh brother ? And did you cut out verse 1 in romans 8 purposely ?

 

[Dan_473]

In that case I believe it would be purified by the fire.

it's not wrong to eat meat that may have been sacrificed to idols, or may have touched a pig as long as it's cooked? will electric cooking work to?

 

[royalscot]

How come people stop at "There is therefore no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus" in Romans 8:1, when the entire verse is:

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

The Carnal mind CANNOT please God, for it is not subject to the law of God. If you are not subject to the law of God then you are living in your flesh and are at enmity against God.

Are you walking in the Flesh brother ? And did you cut out verse 1 in romans 8 purposely ?

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if you want to quote me in context,
ware did you get your law.

so when did the law ,save you. was the law not given to the carnally minded, and gave them the fear of death, and condemnation.

who saved you from the carnally mind of man.


he condemned sin in the flesh,

omans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

you don t even know what he saved you from.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

don t you listen ,can you give me scripture to you rant.
we dont need act 2 either to explain that all were jewish at penticoste.

acts 10 , when did cornilious repent.
, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.29 So when I was sent for, I came without objection. I ask then why you sent for me."Acts 10: Peter and Cornelius
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paul telling you different.
4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
if he is saying this to a jew. not to follow an old covenant. because there is a new covenant. etc
act 15 what law was given to a gentile. etc etc etc



what law do, i need to believe in a saviour.

For God So Loved the World
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God

Yes, after the new covenant you can no longer be covered by the old covenant. You cannot be justified by the law without having Christ. If you try to be justified any other way than Christ, for example animal sacrifice, then you have fallen away from grace which is Christ Jesus. We are not to call any person common or unclean that God has cleansed. God has never rejected anyone who wants to come to him, new testament and old. Cornelius was one who feared God and gave alms often:

Acts 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, 2A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway. 3He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. 4And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.

Acts 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

 

[royalscot]

Yes, after the new covenant you can no longer be covered by the old covenant. You cannot be justified by the law without having Christ. If you try to be justified any other way than Christ, for example animal sacrifice, then you have fallen away from grace which is Christ Jesus. We are not to call any person common or unclean that God has cleansed. God has never rejected anyone who wants to come to him, new testament and old. Cornelius was one who feared God and gave alms often:

Acts 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, 2A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway. 3He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. 4And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.

Acts 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Originally Posted by simplifiedtruth

Wrong.

Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

Luke 12:1 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Read the whole chapter of Matthew 23.

When I sin, I have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous, who is able to forgive me and get me back up on my feet and give me grace to repent of it.

 

[royalscot]

Yes, after the new covenant you can no longer be covered by the old covenant. You cannot be justified by the law without having Christ. If you try to be justified any other way than Christ, for example animal sacrifice, then you have fallen away from grace which is Christ Jesus. We are not to call any person common or unclean that God has cleansed. God has never rejected anyone who wants to come to him, new testament and old. Cornelius was one who feared God and gave alms often:

Acts 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, 2A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway. 3He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. 4And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.

Acts 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

why are you telling me. i quoted this to you.

still waiting on an answer to how, and when you got a law from.

so when did the law ,save you. was the law not given to the carnally minded, and gave them the fear of death, and condemnation.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

How come people stop at "There is therefore no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus" in Romans 8:1, when the entire verse is:

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

The Carnal mind CANNOT please God, for it is not subject to the law of God. If you are not subject to the law of God then you are living in your flesh and are at enmity against God.

Are you walking in the Flesh brother ? And did you cut out verse 1 in romans 8 purposely ?

[/QUOTE
if you want to quote me in context,
ware did you get your law.

so when did the law ,save you. was the law not given to the carnally minded, and gave them the fear of death, and condemnation.

who saved you from the carnally mind of man.


he condemned sin in the flesh,

omans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

you don t even know what he saved you from.

Yes I know what Jesus saves me from:

Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Jesus is saving me from my sins which is transgression of the law(1 john 3:4).

The law does not save me, it tells me what is right to do and what is wrong to do. And Jesus forgives me from my transgressions because I have repented and answered He's call with a good conscience toward Him. Jesus saves you from your sins(transgressions) if you believe in him and choose to follow Him and Keep He's ways.

1 john 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

 

[royalscot]

Originally Posted by royalscot

what sin

Romans 8: Life in the Spirit
1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit


free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3

set free from the law of sin.

if you don t have a law, how can you sin.

okie dokie smokie.

i dont see any quotes ,to ware you got your law from.

Originally Posted by simplifiedtruth

If you Sin, you grieve the Holy Spirit. If you continue to be a sinner you will be cast forth as a branch, and become spiritually destitute. If you love God and are being led by He's Spirit, you will love the commandments and rejoice in keeping them. It is Gods grace that leads us to repentance towards forgiveness and obedience. Any man who comes to God he will not reject, and will help that person in doing so as long as he wants to. Those who do not want to come to God by shunning He's conviction and drawing is eventually given over to their own lusts, at least for a time for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit might be saved in later time.

 

[royalscot]

Yes I know what Jesus saves me from:

Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Jesus is saving me from my sins which is transgression of the law(1 john 3:4).

The law does not save me, it tells me what is right to do and what is wrong to do. And Jesus forgives me from my transgressions because I have repented and answered He's call with a good conscience toward Him. Jesus saves you from your sins(transgressions) if you believe in him and choose to follow Him and Keep He's ways.

1 john 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

i am asking ware you got law from. so that you can give reason to this post. not a rerun of what i quoted to you. in response to your blindness. and what i have already shown you. etc

Originally Posted by simplifiedtruth

If you Sin, you grieve the Holy Spirit. If you continue to be a sinner you will be cast forth as a branch, and become spiritually destitute. If you love God and are being led by He's Spirit, you will love the commandments and rejoice in keeping them. It is Gods grace that leads us to repentance towards forgiveness and obedience. Any man who comes to God he will not reject, and will help that person in doing so as long as he wants to. Those who do not want to come to God by shunning He's conviction and drawing is eventually given over to their own lusts, at least for a time for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit might be saved in later time.


so when did the law ,save you. was the law not given to the carnally minded, and gave them the fear of death, and condemnation.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

i am asking ware you got law from. so that you can give reason to this post. not a rerun of what i quoted to you. in response to your blindness. and what i have already shown you. etc

Originally Posted by simplifiedtruth

If you Sin, you grieve the Holy Spirit. If you continue to be a sinner you will be cast forth as a branch, and become spiritually destitute. If you love God and are being led by He's Spirit, you will love the commandments and rejoice in keeping them. It is Gods grace that leads us to repentance towards forgiveness and obedience. Any man who comes to God he will not reject, and will help that person in doing so as long as he wants to. Those who do not want to come to God by shunning He's conviction and drawing is eventually given over to their own lusts, at least for a time for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit might be saved in later time.


so when did the law ,save you. was the law not given to the carnally minded, and gave them the fear of death, and condemnation.

What do you mean where I got law from ? By Law I mean the Torah which is the Law of God written from Genesis to Deuteronomy. The Law was given for people to know Sin, and to obey it and to love God and obeying with all their soul, mind , strength and being. It is a marriage term for God and He's people for eternal life and peace and blessings and rest. The way we enter the new covenant is through Christ. The marriage terms are still the same (Be diligent to keep my laws statutes and commandments and do them). The Law does not save you. If you break the law you are guilty and need a sacrifice for it. Jesus is our sacrifice when we sin and break it, when we repent of it.

 

[royalscot]

What do you mean where I got law from ? By Law I mean the Torah which is the Law of God written from Genesis to Deuteronomy. The Law was given for people to know Sin, and to obey it and to love God and obeying with all their soul, mind , strength and being. It is a marriage term for God and He's people for eternal life and peace and blessings and rest. The way we enter the new covenant is through Christ. The marriage terms are still the same (Be diligent to keep my laws statutes and commandments and do them). The Law does not save you. If you break the law you are guilty and need a sacrifice for it. Jesus is our sacrifice when we sin and break it, when we repent of it.

your under and born in a new covenant
then the answer, has already been given to you, so why are you following an old covenant. yet reject what a saviour has already done for you. is already been made clear to you by my post to you.

15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.Hebrews 9


Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.

not if a saviour has set you free from the consequence of sin.


2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus fromthe law of sin and death.


so when did the law ,save you. was the law not given to the carnally minded, and gave them the fear of death, and condemnation.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

your under and born in a new covenant
then the answer, has already been given to you, so why are you following an old covenant. yet reject what a saviour has already done for you. is already been made clear to you by my post to you.

15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.Hebrews 9


Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.

not if a saviour has set you free from the consequence of sin.


2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus fromthe law of sin and death.


so when did the law ,save you. was the law not given to the carnally minded, and gave them the fear of death, and condemnation.

Jesus Christ sets you free from the consequences of Sin if you repent and answer God with a good conscience towards him. Why do you think the sinners are gonna be judged ? The rest of the world does not keep the commandments and don't repent of their sins. Its like this: If you break a law where you live you will be judged by the law of the land. If someone comes and bail you out you are free from that judgment. If you go and break the law of the land again you will be be judged by the law again until someone bails you out again. If we sin, we have an advocate with the Father , Christ Jesus. If we confess our sins and turn from them we will be forgiven again. We cannot keep on remaining in our sins and not renewing our minds towards Christs consciousness. If you break Gods Law(The Torah) you need to repent of it and walk in the newness of life again. If you reject Christ by rejecting He's Words you will be cast forth as a branch. Sin is transgression of the Law.