So what about the fourth commandment?

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disciplemike said:
do you understand that if your jesus broke even one single commandment, then he disqualified himself to be the savior. You do understand that, right?
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No I disagree the priests of the time broke that, that's why Jesus walked through the grain fields, you see that day has been lost to time, so of then and now it's each persons to know what that seventh day of rest is on which ever that day shall fall upon for them, for even the word the day Sunday is the first day of old Roman ways thus called the Sun day..
 
disciplemike said:
The Scripture will judge anyone who is not obey God's commandments. The Messiah did not abolish the commandments. He took our penalty, which is death.
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No he fulfilled all of them in his own self. He abolished the the eternal wage to all who put their trust in His work of faith as a three day labor of His love. The other alternative is we boast as if he did not finish it and we do the un finished work in a hope of being found with a righteousness of our own selves (self righteousness)
 
disciplemike said:
No, I am saying it was not sin, because they were hungry and no other good options. The Messiah did not break the Sabbath commandment. He was accused of breaking it several times, but He did not.
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thanks for clarifying. :)

i know you're being inundated here, but if at some point you could tell us what you think about circumcision, i would surely appreciate it.
 
And disciple Mike I doubt you are a believer in Jesus for you would have never said your Jesus.
 
disciplemike said:
No sword here. This is a topic that needs to be brought out. It is not fun. I am not here to make enemies. It will be fine.
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debates have their purpose if it can be done in a mature and Christ like manner and this topic is one that is a very sensitive subject and I have been here for long time and seen many of these threads about this subject never once has it ever turn out good and many people left hurt.

I simply can't handle anymore people being hurt and being chased away because people can't restrain themselves and love to go into heated fiery debates only to end up hurting others and making the enemy roll on the floor laughing
 
Honor the greatest commandment Love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your mind and with all your soul and love your neighbor as yourselves. When you follow that you'll follow the rest of the commandments.
 
keeping the Sabbath sounds a lot like upholding the will of the Father which the son commanded to do.
 
Blain said:
debates have their purpose if it can be done in a mature and Christ like manner and this topic is one that is a very sensitive subject and I have been here for long time and seen many of these threads about this subject never once has it ever turn out good and many people left hurt.

I simply can't handle anymore people being hurt and being chased away because people can't restrain themselves and love to go into heated fiery debates only to end up hurting others and making the enemy roll on the floor laughing
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Amen Blain!
I can't judge the man or any other to have a problem. I have my hands full trying to get the beam out of my own eye.
All I know is that I can't stop thinking just because someone tells me that they've already thought of that , and rejectet it.

Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. Steve Jobs
 
BeyondET said:
No I disagree the priests of the time broke that, that's why Jesus walked through the grain fields, you see that day has been lost to time, so of then and now it's each persons to know what that seventh day of rest is on which ever that day shall fall upon for them, for even the word the day Sunday is the first day of old Roman ways thus called the Sun day..
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I think Christ performed that to show our rest is not from doing no work at all.The Sabbath was set aside so that we can work to bring the gospel as the kind of fast that is acceptable to be heard on high. as day when servile work is not needed to feed our selves. The double portion was eaten the day before. For those who were still hungry they gathered firewood to cook, they broke the law seeing it was self serving.and did not feed those who knew not Christ the bread of spirit life. The gospel of our salvation.
 
BeyondET said:
And disciple Mike I doubt you are a believer in Jesus for you would have never said your Jesus.
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you are somewhat correct. I believe in Messiah HaMashiach. His Name is Yehoshua, or Yeshua for short. I have left the greek jesus behind.
 
notmyown said:
thanks for clarifying. :)

i know you're being inundated here, but if at some point you could tell us what you think about circumcision, i would surely appreciate it.
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as best as I understand, from Shaul and Shimon Keefa, The spiritual circumcision of the heart surpasses the commandment to do it in the flesh. Flesh circumcision is not required for new adult converts, again, as best as I can tell from Scripture. There are some in my own camp who disagree on this issue.
 
rdbseekingafterhim said:
Honor the greatest commandment Love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your mind and with all your soul and love your neighbor as yourselves. When you follow that you'll follow the rest of the commandments.
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Beautiful commandment. Now, if you love God, will you try to guard the things that He calls holy?
 
disciplemike said:
you are somewhat correct. I believe in Messiah HaMashiach. His Name is Yehoshua, or Yeshua for short. I have left the greek jesus behind.
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gee how can that be when the word Jesus is a English translation of the Jewish name Yehoshua meaning the Messiah. another sharp as a marble statement.
 
Blain said:
debates have their purpose if it can be done in a mature and Christ like manner and this topic is one that is a very sensitive subject and I have been here for long time and seen many of these threads about this subject never once has it ever turn out good and many people left hurt.

I simply can't handle anymore people being hurt and being chased away because people can't restrain themselves and love to go into heated fiery debates only to end up hurting others and making the enemy roll on the floor laughing
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i agree, these things should be discussed in a mature and professional way. not like mr poopy pants!
 
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