Why would I care to do that? I never saw him possessing anyone before it, Just Jesus adressing Peter as Satan
Is the Devil bound right now...?
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Why would I care to do that? I never saw him possessing anyone before it, Just Jesus adressing Peter as Satan
:rofl: i cant take it anymore
my belly really hurt his time
because of this
:read:
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of Jehovah.
~;> THIS JEHOVAH OF YOURS IS THID ANOTHER NAME OF YOUR GOD
AS YOU GAVE THE NAME YAHWEH BEFORE
as it is written:read:
1*In the past God spoke to our ancestors at many different times and in many different ways through the prophets.
2*In these last days he has spoken to us through his Son. God made his Son responsible for everything. His Son is the one through whom God made the universe.
3*His Son is the reflection of God's glory and the exact likeness of God's being. He holds everything together through his powerful words. After he had cleansed people from their sins, he received the highest position, the one next to the Father in heaven.
4*The Son has become greater than the angels since he has been given a name that is superior to theirs.
5*God never said to any of his angels, "You are my Son. Today I have become your Father." And God never said to any of his angels, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son."
6*When God was about to send his firstborn Son into the world, he said, "All of God's angels must worship him."
7*God said about the angels, "He makes his messengers winds. He makes his servants flames of fire."
8*But God said about his Son, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.
:8) as it is written
:read:
Mga Hebreo: 1. 1.
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3. Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4. Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Mga Hebreo: 1. 8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
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godbless us all always
I never know what folks are looking to see when they ask about pointing out when Satan has possessed someone, I mean even when the utterance of Peter was looked upon and spoken to as Satan, and when Satan entered into Judas who betrayed the Lord, it wasnt something that was obvious to anyone (especially the disciples) either time.
Even before the cross with the demon possessed I dont recall in any of the circumstances where he asked their name and they said, "Oh I am Satan" but when the woman with the spirit of infirmity was spoken of Christ called that as being bound by Satan (not just bound by and evil spirit) and likewise we see men trying to cast out an evil spirit after the cross also, I would think the same was true there.
Even before the cross with the demon possessed I dont recall in any of the circumstances where he asked their name and they said, "Oh I am Satan" but when the woman with the spirit of infirmity was spoken of Christ called that as being bound by Satan (not just bound by and evil spirit) and likewise we see men trying to cast out an evil spirit after the cross also, I would think the same was true there.
:rofl: as you did
satan would do these things himself
where saulo este pablo and what we meant is
the apostle of the gentiles
as it is written
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1 Tesalonica: 2. 17.
But we, brethren, being taken from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavoured the more abundantly to see your face with great desire.
18. Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.
~;> THATS WHY OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
SAID THIS BEFORE TO GIVE US ALL A WARNING ABOUT
who leads you to believe something that is not true
according to the holy scriptures
as it is written
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Lucas: 11. 17. But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
18. If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.
:8) for being bound means you cannot do anything at all even with all that powers
THATS WHY SATAN IS NOT BOUND
FOR HUMANS STILL IDOLIZING THOSE CURVED STONE GIVING THEM DIFFIRENT NAMES PROCLAIMING THEM AS THEIR GODS EVEN BEFORE
UNTIL NOW THEY HAVENT CHANGED THEIR WAYS
thats the biblical truth
where acsaulo este pablo and what we meant
the apostles of the gentiles s
as it is written
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Mga Gawa: 17. 16.
Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. 17. Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.
18. Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.
19. And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is?
20. For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. 21. (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)
22. Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
23. For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
24. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25. Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
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godbless us all always
:rofl: you should brought first the very meaning of the cross in the scriptures
after you learned that SATAN IS NOT BOUND RIGHT NOW
SO THAT YOULL LEARN ALSO
THAT AFTER ONLY IN TIME OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION
SATAN SHALL BE BOUND
as the scriptures records this all
as it is written
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Pahayag: 20. 1. And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3. And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
and by the way your on exorcism things right now
thats why you have put those evil things unto something which could be said only by those who experienced it literaly and spiritualy
and again
this is what it means to be on the right side of satan
as it is written
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Zacarias: 3. 1.
And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
2. And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
:8) for every accounts was been translated from those previous records of the scriptures when someone tries to change it t
thats why someone must interpret it very carefully
when its our faith is on the line tempted by those evil things
we pray and ask for giuide in order not to be corrupted by satan
where accounts were also records saulo este pablo and what we meant is
the apostle of the gentiles sscriptures
where he told the things about the cross and
our lord jesus christ the only begotten son of god who is our savior
when the time comes
as it is written
:read:
Mga Hebreo:
12. 2. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. 4. Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
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godbless us all always
as i share the words he :8) also do his part in his unpredictable ways as we prayed that the way of
our lord jesuschrist the only begotten son of god who is our savior
when the time comes
shall prevail against those evil things
as it is written
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Mateo: 8. 7.
And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him.
8. The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.
9. For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.
10. When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
11. And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
13. And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.
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godbless us all always
Originally Posted by Bowman
[FONT="]Show us where scripture records Satan possessing anyone after The Cross.
Bowman, what would that prove? Nothing at all! It's actually ridiculous! Why would you think that scripture would record every time Satan possessed someone? And this is what you want to base you proof on regarding Satan being bound? I can just point to the evil in the world and prove that Satan is not currently bound. And he won't be bound in the Abyss for a literal thousand years until after God's wrath has been poured out via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, followed by Jesus' return to end the age to establish His millennial kingdom. You're going to find out that these events are going to take place literally and in the chronological order that they are listed in the word of God, regardless of your Amillennialist view.[/FONT]
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:8) indeed my sister
my brethrens and my fellows
my brothers and believers even unto the believers (hope they change their ways)
as our brother bowman here WANTS SATAN
TO BE BOUND RIGHT NOW
AND BOUNDING SATAN
ARE ALSO OURS TO OBLIGED AS THEY SAY
FOR HOW LONG WE WAITED THIS THINGS TO HAPPEN BUT
IN ACCORDANCE UNTO THE SCRIPTURES
BECAUSE IN ORDER TO SEAL THE EVIL THINGS
WE SHALL MUST ABIDE UNTO THE RULES OF THE WORD
THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES
as it is written
:read:
Daniel: 12. 8.
And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9. And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
:rofl: ofcourse my sister
and
you remind me of one brethren :smoke: of mine
by the way
about our brother here who we remind always as
we could see and hear this brother bowman of ours on
how eager he is to seal those things unto his own thinking
... . but he should listen and look first unto his surroundings
and
if he managed to understand
how true god is and how good the words is written
then its up to him to make those decisions for himself
and specially
unto those doctrines of his
as it is written
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2 Paralipomeno: 18. 15.
And the king said to him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou say nothing but the truth to me in the name of the LORD?
16. Then he said, I did see all Israel scattered upon the mountains, as sheep that have no shepherd: and the LORD said, These have no master; let them return therefore every man to his house in peace. 17. And the king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would not prophesy good unto me, but evil?
18. Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the LORD; I saw the LORD sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left.
19. And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.
20. Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?
21. And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.
22. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
So I stood, and saw, and, behold, an hot burning oven passed by before me: and it happened that when the flame was gone by I looked, and, behold, the smoke remained still. :ty:
godbless us all always
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:rofl: i cant take it anymore
my belly really hurt his time
because of this
:read:
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of Jehovah.
~;> THIS JEHOVAH OF YOURS IS THID ANOTHER NAME OF YOUR GOD
AS YOU GAVE THE NAME YAHWEH BEFORE
:read:
1*In the past God spoke to our ancestors at many different times and in many different ways through the prophets.
2*In these last days he has spoken to us through his Son. God made his Son responsible for everything. His Son is the one through whom God made the universe.
3*His Son is the reflection of God's glory and the exact likeness of God's being. He holds everything together through his powerful words. After he had cleansed people from their sins, he received the highest position, the one next to the Father in heaven.
4*The Son has become greater than the angels since he has been given a name that is superior to theirs.
5*God never said to any of his angels, "You are my Son. Today I have become your Father." And God never said to any of his angels, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son."
6*When God was about to send his firstborn Son into the world, he said, "All of God's angels must worship him."
7*God said about the angels, "He makes his messengers winds. He makes his servants flames of fire."
8*But God said about his Son, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.
:8) as it is written
:read:
Mga Hebreo: 1. 1.
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3. Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4. Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Mga Hebreo: 1. 8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
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godbless us all always
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Heb 1.1
πολυμερως και πολυτροπως παλαι ο θεος λαλησας τοις πατρασιν εν τοις προφηταις επ εσχατου των ημερων τουτων ελαλησεν ημιν εν υιω
POLYMERŌS kai POLYTROPŌS palai ho theos lalēsas tois patrasin en tois prophētais
By many portions and in various forms, God spoke to the fathers in the prophets;
The Book of Hebrews is aptly named for the OT material of which it contains.
Heb 1.1 immediately informs the reader that the One God of the OT has always revealed Himself ‘by many portions’ (polymeros) and ‘in various forms’ (polytropos).
These two Greek terms are only used this one time/ea in the entirety of the Holy Bible, and lexically are defined as ‘One of the constituent parts of a whole; in a context where the whole and its parts are distinguished.’
A clear signal of the ONE Triune Creator God of the Universe.
Seems you already answered my question.
Satan NEVER possesses anyone AFTER The Cross.
This is because he has been bound, and rendered impotent.
Thanks...
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:you forgot to mention that your example is in the PAST TENSE...i.e. completed action:
The Dragon, The Old Serpent, The Devil, Satan was bound ‘edēsen’ (completed action),cast into the abyss ‘ebalen’ (completed action), shut ‘ekleisen’ (completed action), and sealed ‘esphragisen’ (completed action), that he can no longer deceive people‘planēsē’(singular, completed action), by Jesus. Rev 20.1 - 3
You don't have to show us every time, brother....just ONE time, after The Cross!
I asked this of you for the past year, and you still can't even show us one verse.
What's the matter...?
One of many scriptural proofs....you can't even get past...so you throw a tantrum...
Not impressed.
As a literalist, you overlook the fact that there are 200,000,000 demons that are in the world today, per Revelation.
More than enough to provide evil across the planet.
Spread your hypocrisy elsewhere...
Jesus, Himself, told us in Mat 24 that terrible things would occur BEFORE the end comes, and BEFORE the release of the 'abomination of desolation' (i.e. Satan).
Jesus lists-out many things occurring BEFORE the release of Satan....false prophets, wars, rumors of wars, nation set against nation, famine, plagues, earthquakes, the killing of Christians, etc...
So....what we are seeing today IS to be expected, per scripture.
But....
When Satan is unbound, we will see, for a brief period, 'great affliction, such as has not happened from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.'
Everything going on in the world today has been seen played-out in various forms for thousands of years.
Clearly, any student of scripture can see that Satan is bound today.
Study your scriptures, and thank God that Satan is currently bound!
It doesnt say they were possesed of Satan either time really. Being bound by Satan is shown in the woman with "a spirit of" infirmity alone, and not that she had Satan inside her but something more ressembling "a messenger of" Satan even in her flesh.
And here, between Judas where it says,
John 13:2 And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him
And here, with Ananias
Acts 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
The devil (who is Satan) put it in both their hearts before the cross and after, whether to betray Christ or lie to the Holy Ghost and keep back part of the price of the land, we see the same thing going on.
Then there are these taken captive by the devil
2 Ti 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
We must have a bound devil taking people captive at his will then eh?
1Peter 5:8 [FONT="]Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour
He might be just dragging around the ol' ball and chain (with permissions)[/FONT]
He might be just dragging around the ol' ball and chain (with permissions)[/FONT]
Yes, it does.
Show us...
Two entirely different Greek verbs are employed, with two entirely different meanings.
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
We must have a bound devil taking people captive at his will then eh?
The 'Devil's snare' is what has already occurred to Satan at The Cross...i.e. he was judged at that point, according to scripture.
If you look at the five Greek locations of this word (and its inflections), you can easily see that this has everything to do will falling into the trap of being Judged, of which, Satan has already been.
This passage is a predicament of Judgment....NOT a declaration of Satan's authority.
1 Thes 2:18 Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.
2 Cr 2:11Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
2 Cr 2:11Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
1 Peter 5.8
νηψατε γρηγορησατε ο αντιδικος υμων διαβολος ως λεων ωρυομενος περιπατει ζητων καταπιειν
nēpsate grēgorēsate ho antidikos hymōn diabolos hōs leōn ōryomenos peripatei zētōn tina katapiein
Be sober-minded, watch, the adversary devil of you walks about in the same manner as a roaring lion seeking whom to devour;
This passage does not refer to ‘The Devil’ himself, as ‘diabolos’ is anarthrous (i.e. it lacks a preceding Greek definite article).
Further, ‘ho antidikos’ (the adversary) is used in only one other NT passage, Mat 5.25, and is in the context of being thrown into prison.