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I will not be eighty-one for long. If I live then it will be just over a month and I will be eighty-two.
I saw Jesus before I was even a believer. You make no sense, unless your point is to say there is only one (unforgivable) sin (that of unbelief), since all else are already forgiven.
But again age is not a measure of maturity, I am only 25 and I am always told how I am far more wise and mature beyond my years I have met people who were well into their 70's but acted more childish than my cousin who is only 12.
Again age does not equal maturity
John 3:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Believe is Faith! When we Believe Jesus is God then we have Faith that Jesus is God. We need first to believe in Jesus, then God GIVES us the Faith needed to receive Him as our Lord and Savior.
We do NOT go seeking for God! God seeks us out!
Romans 3:10-12
[SUP]10 [/SUP]as it is written,“There is none righteous, not even one;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]There is none who understands,
There is none who seeks for God;
[SUP]12 [/SUP]All have turned aside, together they have become useless;
There is none who does good,
There is not even one.”
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Believe is Faith! When we Believe Jesus is God then we have Faith that Jesus is God. We need first to believe in Jesus, then God GIVES us the Faith needed to receive Him as our Lord and Savior.
We do NOT go seeking for God! God seeks us out!
Romans 3:10-12
[SUP]10 [/SUP]as it is written,“There is none righteous, not even one;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]There is none who understands,
There is none who seeks for God;
[SUP]12 [/SUP]All have turned aside, together they have become useless;
There is none who does good,
There is not even one.”
He has it backwards, does he not? For Scripture attests that we love because He first loved us.
(Galatians 5:22-26) “On the other hand the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, trustfulness, gentleness and self-control; no law can touch such things as these. All who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified self with all its passions and its desires. Since we are living by the Spirit, let our behavior be guided by the Spirit and let us not be conceited or provocative and envious of one another.”
(Galatians 5:22-26) “On the other hand the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, trustfulness, gentleness and self-control; no law can touch such things as these. All who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified self with all its passions and its desires. Since we are living by the Spirit, let our behavior be guided by the Spirit and let us not be conceited or provocative and envious of one another.”
this isn't about you being wrong that was not the intent in my words to you and I have no intention of arguing nor will I all I was doing was correcting there is a vast difference
Of course he has it backwards; everything he shares is backwards.
No perfection on our part -- no grace. What kind of heretical, disrespectful garbage is that?
Doesn't coincide with your words that in order to be loved by God we must love Him first. You're not wiggling your way out of this one. Admit you're wrong and I'll let it go.
New International Version
We love because he first loved us.
New Living Translation
We love each other because he loved us first.
English Standard Version
We love because he first loved us.
Berean Study Bible
We love because He first loved us.
Berean Literal Bible
We love because He first loved us.
New American Standard Bible
We love, because He first loved us.
King James Bible
We love him, because he first loved us.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
We love because He first loved us.
International Standard Version
We love because God first loved us.
NET Bible
We love because he loved us first.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Therefore we shall love God because he first loved us.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
We love because God loved us first.
New American Standard 1977
We love, because He first loved us.
Jubilee Bible 2000
We love him, because he first loved us.
King James 2000 Bible
We love him, because he first loved us.
American King James Version
We love him, because he first loved us.
American Standard Version
We love, because he first loved us.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Let us therefore love God, because God first hath loved us.
Darby Bible Translation
We love because he has first loved us.
English Revised Version
We love, because he first loved us.
Webster's Bible Translation
We love him, because he first loved us.
Weymouth New Testament
We love because God first loved us.
World English Bible
We love him, because he first loved us.
Young's Literal Translation
we -- we love him, because He -- He first loved us;
We love because he first loved us.
New Living Translation
We love each other because he loved us first.
English Standard Version
We love because he first loved us.
Berean Study Bible
We love because He first loved us.
Berean Literal Bible
We love because He first loved us.
New American Standard Bible
We love, because He first loved us.
King James Bible
We love him, because he first loved us.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
We love because He first loved us.
International Standard Version
We love because God first loved us.
NET Bible
We love because he loved us first.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Therefore we shall love God because he first loved us.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
We love because God loved us first.
New American Standard 1977
We love, because He first loved us.
Jubilee Bible 2000
We love him, because he first loved us.
King James 2000 Bible
We love him, because he first loved us.
American King James Version
We love him, because he first loved us.
American Standard Version
We love, because he first loved us.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Let us therefore love God, because God first hath loved us.
Darby Bible Translation
We love because he has first loved us.
English Revised Version
We love, because he first loved us.
Webster's Bible Translation
We love him, because he first loved us.
Weymouth New Testament
We love because God first loved us.
World English Bible
We love him, because he first loved us.
Young's Literal Translation
we -- we love him, because He -- He first loved us;
(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible
That is true we could not love God unless he loved us first. God gave us the Holy Spirit to teach us to love God. God had to love us to give us his Holy Spirit who makes it possible for us to never sin, and become children of God.
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible