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it is evident now that those responsible for the coup attempt are subordinate ranking officers in the turkish military...turkey's generals are still loyal to the erdogan regime...
whether the coup planners command more allegiance from the average turkish soldier than the generals and the government do is not yet clear... it is also unclear whether or not the generals are in any position to wield what influence they have...given some reports that they are being held hostage in the defense department building...
whether the coup planners command more allegiance from the average turkish soldier than the generals and the government do is not yet clear... it is also unclear whether or not the generals are in any position to wield what influence they have...given some reports that they are being held hostage in the defense department building...
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erdogan spoke on turkish television live several minutes ago...
he called the coup attempt treason and again threatened those responsible... he also indicated that the prime minister has given the order to shoot down any aircraft that are involved in the coup... again it is not entirely clear how many in the turkish air force are actually listening to these orders...
while earlier reports rumored that erdogan had sought to escape to germany...he now asserts that he will remain in turkey...
erdogan again blamed the gulenists...who have opposed the corruption and islamic radicalism of the erdogan regime but denied involvement in the coup attempt...and said this proves that the gulen movement is an armed terrorist group...
if erdogan survives this coup attempt...and it appears right now that he has better than 50/50 odds...it is likely that he will use this as an excuse to crack down on the gulen movement...in order words...to crack down on moderate muslims and anti corruption reformists...and solidify his authoritarian islamist grip on turkey...
he called the coup attempt treason and again threatened those responsible... he also indicated that the prime minister has given the order to shoot down any aircraft that are involved in the coup... again it is not entirely clear how many in the turkish air force are actually listening to these orders...
while earlier reports rumored that erdogan had sought to escape to germany...he now asserts that he will remain in turkey...
erdogan again blamed the gulenists...who have opposed the corruption and islamic radicalism of the erdogan regime but denied involvement in the coup attempt...and said this proves that the gulen movement is an armed terrorist group...
if erdogan survives this coup attempt...and it appears right now that he has better than 50/50 odds...it is likely that he will use this as an excuse to crack down on the gulen movement...in order words...to crack down on moderate muslims and anti corruption reformists...and solidify his authoritarian islamist grip on turkey...
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as i predicted erdogan is promising to 'clean up' the army in the wake of this coup...
assuming he survives the coup attempt...as is becoming increasingly likely...we can expect purges in the army...and a further subservience of the turkish military as merely an armed apparatus of the islamist AK party and further suppression of its traditional role as guardian of the constitution and secularism in turkey...
assuming he survives the coup attempt...as is becoming increasingly likely...we can expect purges in the army...and a further subservience of the turkish military as merely an armed apparatus of the islamist AK party and further suppression of its traditional role as guardian of the constitution and secularism in turkey...
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erdogan states that his general secretary has been abducted...he has not commented on the location or safety of the chief of staff of the turkish military...
over fifty military officers have been arrested now...including 'citizens arrests' by the large crowds called out to the streets by erdogan and other members of the government...
the european union is now also expressing its 'full support' for the 'democratically elected government' led by erdogan and his puppets...the 'institutions of the country' controlled by erdogan's AK party...and the 'rule of law'
over fifty military officers have been arrested now...including 'citizens arrests' by the large crowds called out to the streets by erdogan and other members of the government...
the european union is now also expressing its 'full support' for the 'democratically elected government' led by erdogan and his puppets...the 'institutions of the country' controlled by erdogan's AK party...and the 'rule of law'
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and now the united nations has weighed in...with secretary general ban ki-moon arguing that 'military interference in the affairs of any state is unacceptable'... he is calling for a quick and 'peaceful' restoration of civilian rule...in other words rule by the erdogan regime...
the irony should not be lost on some people here given the fact that the united nations has recognized the legitimacy of a number of regimes in which the military is very deeply involved in civic control...
the irony should not be lost on some people here given the fact that the united nations has recognized the legitimacy of a number of regimes in which the military is very deeply involved in civic control...
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it is kind of a shame that world institutions that purport to care about democracy and human rights are unequivocally siding with an increasingly authoritarian and increasingly abusive islamist dominated regime...one that has -already- stated its intent to use this coup as justification for a purge of the military...a crackdown on religious moderates and reformists in civil society...and a further consolidation of its own rule by force and coercion...
because 'normalcy' is better than any alternative i guess...
because 'normalcy' is better than any alternative i guess...
An interesting aside, if the military wins and actually does establish true freedom of religion.
Turkey is the location of numerous biblical sites - from Ephesus to Laodicea and Colossae.
Colossae is a large tell which the current Muslim regime will not give permission to any archeologists to excavate. Why? Because it was destroyed in a large earthquake in I think 66 AD, which would place the destruction right after the books of Colossians and Philemon were written. So anything might be preserved in that tell, including the original autographs of those NT books. Or at least, the earliest copies of any NT book.
So it has been in the interest of Muslims to block excavations, despite numerous applications by independent archeologists. I have a good friend, and her husband is the head of a large archeology department in Canada. He goes yearly for digs in Turkey, along with his wife, my friend. He is not a Christian, but would really like to get access to that mound. For Christians, it could be the confirmation of the truth of the Bible. Well, to those that have ears to hear, anyway!
Turkey is the location of numerous biblical sites - from Ephesus to Laodicea and Colossae.
Colossae is a large tell which the current Muslim regime will not give permission to any archeologists to excavate. Why? Because it was destroyed in a large earthquake in I think 66 AD, which would place the destruction right after the books of Colossians and Philemon were written. So anything might be preserved in that tell, including the original autographs of those NT books. Or at least, the earliest copies of any NT book.
So it has been in the interest of Muslims to block excavations, despite numerous applications by independent archeologists. I have a good friend, and her husband is the head of a large archeology department in Canada. He goes yearly for digs in Turkey, along with his wife, my friend. He is not a Christian, but would really like to get access to that mound. For Christians, it could be the confirmation of the truth of the Bible. Well, to those that have ears to hear, anyway!
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the prime minister of turkey is now saying that the senior leadership of the military has wrested control of most of the coup leaders' subordinates away from them...
130 anti government soldiers have been arrested according to the prime minister...
the prime minister also revealed that there -was- a general involved in the coup...and stated that he has been killed...
130 anti government soldiers have been arrested according to the prime minister...
the prime minister also revealed that there -was- a general involved in the coup...and stated that he has been killed...
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fighter jets controlled by the coup planners remain in the air... the prime minister continues to repeat threats to shoot them down forthwith...but nothing has actually been done yet...
to me this suggests that the air force is the segment of the turkish military that the government is having the most trouble regaining control over...
to me this suggests that the air force is the segment of the turkish military that the government is having the most trouble regaining control over...
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although government officials who appear to be concentrated in istanbul are becoming more and more confident that they can get the situation under control...it seems to be a different story in ankara...
shots are still being fired regularly by coup affiliated soldiers in ankara...tanks are still present...and the number of dead and injured is rising...at least forty-two killed so far... the coup planners still appear to have the upper hand in ankara regardless of whether or not the government has regained control in istanbul...
shots are still being fired regularly by coup affiliated soldiers in ankara...tanks are still present...and the number of dead and injured is rising...at least forty-two killed so far... the coup planners still appear to have the upper hand in ankara regardless of whether or not the government has regained control in istanbul...
