German police kicking in doors and dragging people away for Facebook posts....

[Yeraza_Bats]

Nope. Not me. I'm a christian. I don't have the duty to support evil-doing, racism and discrimination against people (be them christians, jews, muslims, chosen people of God or not). If you actually read the gospels you would see that Christ himself doesn't support that.

Havent seen a bible verse where He tells us to stand against Israel. Youre gonna have to prove that.

 

[GuessWho]

Havent seen a bible verse where He tells us to stand against Israel. Youre gonna have to prove that.

If you need bible verses to stand for the truth, for the good and for love, than...there's something really wrong with your faith...or with your Bible.

 

[GuessWho]

We are the chosen people of God and we have the duty to stay on the side of those, who are right. Jew or Greek, does not matter.

Let us support Israel because this is the only one normal country there. Democratic, secular, under attack. Not because we have some virtual duty.

Did any of you actually watch the video I posted or you just talk in order to not shut up? The fact that you refuse to watch only shows your bigotism and close-mindness.

 

[Demi777]

Did any of you actually watch the video I posted or you just talk in order to not shut up? The fact that you refuse to watch only shows your bigotism and close-mindness.

I love it how your signature talks about love and you just start insulting people for no reason.

 

[GuessWho]

I love it how your signature talks about love and you just start insulting people for no reason.

I didn't insult no one. Reality is harsh this is why people refuse to see with their eyes and prefer to see what their beliefs tell them they ought to see.

Bigotism, close-mindness, pharisaism, dishonesty - all these are sins, not insults. And the "you" I used refers to all people, in general, who continue to talk ignorantly about Israel and Palestine and who deliberately stay ignorant and indifferent to this matter.

 

[Demi777]

I didn't insult no one. Reality is harsh this is why people refuse to see with their eyes and prefer to see what their beliefs tell them they ought to see.

Bigotism, close-mindness, pharisaism, dishonesty - all these are sins, not insults. And the "you" I used refers to all people, in general, who continue to talk ignorantly about Israel and Palestine and who deliberately stay ignorant and indifferent to this matter.

1. I was referring to people and not to myself
2. Who are you to point out and judge anyone on here in the first place. [h=1]Matthew 7:1-5King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?[/FONT]
5 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Thats what Jesus thinks of people that judge others.. That is also a sin as far as I can see..also arrogance,ignorance,pride and self-righteousness [/FONT]

 

[GuessWho]

How about when you refuse to speak the truth? When you see evil and pretend it didn't happen?

If you tried to scare me with those bible verses, you didn't manage to. I am very in peace with myself and with God concerning this matter. I can't support racism and discrimination. Period.

 

[Demi777]

How about when you refuse to speak the truth? When you see evil and pretend it didn't happen?

If you tried to scare me with those bible verses, you didn't manage to. I am very in peace with myself and with God concerning this matter. I can't support racism and discrimination. Period.

If I wanted to scare you I would talk about fire and brimstone. I do not refuse to speak the truth. And if I would pretend evil didnt happen I would surely not post on here. I would maybe be in the conspiracy Forum, not the News Forum.

 

[Tintin]

The Israel of the Bible is very different to the modern state of Israel. I think we need to practise critical thinking here, especially before we choose to side anyone in the name of truth.

 

[GuessWho]

The Israel of the Bible is very different to the modern state of Israel. I think we need to practise critical thinking here, especially before we choose to side anyone in the name of truth.

I am against the continuous occupation of Palestinian territory (what's left of it).

 

[Desdichado]

The Israel of the Bible is very different to the modern state of Israel. I think we need to practise critical thinking here, especially before we choose to side anyone in the name of truth.

Not to mention Zionism itself. If people took time to read about the philosophy, they would see some of its blatant connections with Marxism. Things contrary to the Gospel to be certain.

 

[GuessWho]

Not to mention Zionism itself. If people took time to read about the philosophy, they would see some of its blatant connections with Marxism. Things contrary to the Gospel to be certain.

You never get out (safe and sound) from such debates. According to the brilliant minds of some people, if you're against zionism it can only mean one thing: you're a nazi, an antisemite. I spent a lot of energy (in vain) trying to prove that christian zionism is a contradiction in terms. People don't even read what you say. They only think about what they are going to say and how to "be right".

Back on topic. It would be interesting if we saw some comments posted on facebook and labeled as hate speech by the german police. While it is dangerous to have a thought police, recent history in Germany shows that hate speech is not a mere politically correct invention and can have catastrophic consequences.

 

[Desdichado]

You never get out (safe and sound) from such debates. According to the brilliant minds of some people, if you're against zionism it can only mean one thing: you're a nazi, an antisemite. I spent a lot of energy (in vain) trying to prove that christian zionism is a contradiction in terms. People don't even read what you say. They only think about what they are going to say and how to "be right".

Back on topic. It would be interesting if we saw some comments posted on facebook and labeled as hate speech by the german police. While it is dangerous to have a thought police, recent history in Germany shows that hate speech is not a mere politically correct invention and can have catastrophic consequences.

Having a Jew card to play is extremely helpful in those discussions. Thanks to Providence and genetics, I do. It's fantastic.

 

[GuessWho]

Having a Jew card to play is extremely helpful in those discussions. Thanks to Providence and genetics, I do. It's fantastic.

It's not for nothing that I posted a video presented by a Jewish American woman. I knew it would have more impact (if people watch it, obviously).

 

[Desdichado]

It's not for nothing that I posted a video presented by a Jewish American woman. I knew it would have more impact (if people watch it, obviously).

I still haven't had the chance to see it. I'll give it a whirl when I have a free hour.

As you can well imagine, my views of the situation are...nuanced. Learning about Menachem Begin and the King David Hotel bombing truly changed my life.

 

[Desdichado]

Look it up folks. The Zionists did the whole terrorism thing too.