Can you prove the existence of God without using the existence of God as proof He exists?
If we cannot see God then how do we prove He is real,and He will not show us a bodily manifestation of Himself to prove to mankind He does exist,for Jesus said blessed is He that has not seen Him,and still believes.
And that is because it is faith,which faith is the substance of things hoped for,the evidence of things not seen.
So there is evidence,miracles,people's lives changing for the better,the word of God.
Which in Isaiah chapter 41 God challenges all religions,and people,to prove that their religion,and god,is true,by showing the end from the beginning,which God said they cannot prove their religion,and god,is true,identifying Him as the one true God,for God showed us the whole history of mankind.
There is witnesses to cause people to believe that God and His kingdom is true,that are substances that show evidence of that which is not seen.
But someone might say how can you prove it without that impact on a person.
Take away the miracles,and the word of God,and Jesus did not come to earth,people's lives changing for the better,and such,and now what do you have to prove God does exist.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
Take away all those things that are substance to show evidence of things not seen,and you still have creation,unless we take away creation too,but then we would not be here.
Creation testifies that there is a higher power that created all things,and of His attributes,which one of them is love,love towards people,for He provided food,and a means to make clothing,and shelter,so people should love that higher power,and people,which no one has an excuse.
People without the word of God will be judged that way,in which the blood of Christ will wash away their sins if they abided by that,and can dwell with God after the millennial reign of Christ.
Can you prove the existence of God without using the existence of God as proof He exists?
Which I still kind of do not understand this,for how can you prove I exist,unless you have proof I exist.
Creation testifies of a higher power would be the closest thing to that,whatever you mean,and the only way you can prove the existence of God,without using the proof of God that He does exist,is to take away everything,and nothing created,and we do not exist,but then you cannot prove anything anyway,for nobody exists.