Dietary Laws?

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Grandpa

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Would this mean that everything else other than those 4 things are just fine for Christians to do?
With the guidance of the Holy Spirit, yes.

The Liberty that is in Christ...
 
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Ariel82

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Would this mean that everything else other than those 4 things are just fine for Christians to do?
If one follows the Holy Spirit, folks would spend more time doing what God tells us to Do and less figuring out what they can and can't get away with doing and not doing.

Personally, I eat whatever is set before me with thanks to God. I cook whatever my husband ask me to cook.

with the exception of human flesh or eating animals still alive, God has not revealed that eating anything else is sin.

He makes our body able to digest certain things. As we grow older, we digest less and have to be on a stricter diet. Some people are diabetic and must eat less sugar. I know many who are allergic to certain foods. God is clear what He wants us to individually eat or not eat.

Sometimes He causes His prophets to offend Pharisees because they follow the letter of the law and have forgotten the Spirit that speaks of grace and love.

Don't be a Pharisee or hypocrite. Dont think because you follow a set of laws, you are somehow better than a drunkard or a prositute. Because God loves all His children, even while they are sinners in need of a bath.
 

KohenMatt

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If one follows the Holy Spirit, folks would spend more time doing what God tells us to Do and less figuring out what they can and can't get away with doing and not doing.
I agree completely. My stance however, is that following the Holy Spirit should cause us to study God's Word and hear and obey. That is exactly the case with the Old Testament.

Personally, I eat whatever is set before me with thanks to God. I cook whatever my husband ask me to cook.

with the exception of human flesh or eating animals still alive, God has not revealed that eating anything else is sin.
Where has God stated that eating flesh is a sin?

Sometimes He causes His prophets to offend Pharisees because they follow the letter of the law and have forgotten the Spirit that speaks of grace and love.

Don't be a Pharisee or hypocrite. Dont think because you follow a set of laws, you are somehow better than a drunkard or a prositute.

Please show me where I have said anything even remotely close to this. Please reference the post(s).

Because God loves all His children, even while they are sinners in need of a bath.
Amen!
 
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Ariel82

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My statements are made in general and not directed at a specific person.

I am sure I could find anti cannabalism laws in the Bible but is it truly necessary?

As for eating things still alive....well if it is alive, it has blood in it..,,sooo those verses posted about not eating things with blood in it would apply.
 
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Why would an all-knowing God make (healthy) dietary laws and then tell His Son to go and change that? Did He change His mind about pork chops?
The dietary laws have spiritual meanings, to eat beasts that chew the cud and have split hooves means to become and cleave to those who slowly digest and meditate on the word of God and walks in this eon but also towards the eon to come. To eat fish that have scales and fins means to become and cling to those who have their sight on things of above, as fish lacking fish and scales are in the depths of the ocean. To not eat birds such as the falcon and crow means to not become or cleave to those who steal or prey on others.
 
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Ariel82

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I study God's word and He says alot has been fulfilled and even in the Old testament He told His prophets to offend the religious leaders by doing things that broke the letter of the law. The prophets followed God, not just in letter but in Spirit.

Too many religious people get caught up in written laws they forget to pray and seek God's will in their lives. Instead they are Too busy working on tasks they assign themselves and have no time Or patience for those God wants them to love and tend too. Instead of love and grace, they give laws and condemnation.

God leads some to be vegetarian and others to eat meat. He says both are okay and neither should condemn the other for following what God tells them to do, be and eat.
 

KohenMatt

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My statements are made in general and not directed at a specific person.

I am sure I could find anti cannabalism laws in the Bible but is it truly necessary?

As for eating things still alive....well if it is alive, it has blood in it..,,sooo those verses posted about not eating things with blood in it would apply.
I only asked because you seemed to say that God revealed eating human flesh was a sin.

with the exception of human flesh or eating animals still alive, God has not revealed that eating anything else is sin.
 
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Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, [in whom] my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
Isaiah 42:1-4 (KJV, MBM)
 

KohenMatt

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I study God's word and He says alot has been fulfilled and even in the Old testament He told His prophets to offend the religious leaders by doing things that broke the letter of the law. The prophets followed God, not just in letter but in Spirit.

Too many religious people get caught up in written laws they forget to pray and seek God's will in their lives. Instead they are Too busy working on tasks they assign themselves and have no time Or patience for those God wants them to love and tend too. Instead of love and grace, they give laws and condemnation.

God leads some to be vegetarian and others to eat meat. He says both are okay and neither should condemn the other for following what God tells them to do, be and eat.
I agree with much of what you said here, except that I can't recall a scripture where God told His prophets to break the law. Break man's additions to the law? Absolutely. But not the law itself.
 

JosephsDreams

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God has made concessions regarding our diets, but His original diet for us was stated in Genesis 1:29. Follow that, you'll live longer, with a higher quality of health.
It's that simple.
 

Yonah

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I just see it like this: He created all things, and knows what is best for our bodies and what is not, he knows how each creature was made and how its physiology assimilates or eliminates waste, some animals were created to be cleaners of the invironment, and the retain the toxins they absorb in their tissues, if we consume these animals..... anyway for me its a matter of trusting Him, as I see it there is a reason for the difference between clean and unclean animals, even Noah knew the difference and made special prevision for it.... its not about Mosaic law its about what is food and what is not.
 

JosephsDreams

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Without a doubt, consistently eating animal flesh is unhealthy, and I believe that it could rightly be considered immoral in some cases.
 
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Without a doubt, consistently eating animal flesh is unhealthy, and I believe that it could rightly be considered immoral in some cases.
Hi JD! Haven't seen you in a coons age, young man!
What cases are you considering?
 

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*sits down with cookies and cream Ice cream and reads comments
 

JosephsDreams

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Like if a person is living in a environment that provides enough food from vegan sources.
Or if someone is being gluttonous concerning animal food.
Or if a hunter has a spirit of cruelness, as opposed to survival.
 

John146

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Why would an all-knowing God make (healthy) dietary laws and then tell His Son to go and change that? Did He change His mind about pork chops?
Under the law, what a man ate or touched had a bearing on his soul because his soul was attached to his outer body. Not so after the resurrection of Christ for the believer. The believer's soul has been spiritually circumcised from his body, a circumcision made without hands.

Colossians 2
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
 

John146

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Without a doubt, consistently eating animal flesh is unhealthy, and I believe that it could rightly be considered immoral in some cases.
We only have a moral obligation to abstain from eating or drinking certain foods if it is an offense to those we are trying to reach with the gospel. If I am out with a catholic friend on a Friday I should become "as" a catholic and order the fish. If out with a Jew friend, become "as" a Jew and don't order the pork sandwich with a side of bacon.
 
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Like if a person is living in a environment that provides enough food from vegan sources.
Or if someone is being gluttonous concerning animal food.
Or if a hunter has a spirit of cruelness, as opposed to survival.
I am living in an environment that would more than sustain my life from just vegan sources. I could easily survive without meat. So then, you think my eating meat is one of those immoral cases. It's okay that you think this about me. It doesn't make me mad. I wub you! I would be very willing to look into what verses you have been given to arrive at this conclusion that I am doing something immoral.
 

JosephsDreams

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We only have a moral obligation to abstain from eating or drinking certain foods if it is an offense to those we are trying to reach with the gospel. If I am out with a catholic friend on a Friday I should become "as" a catholic and order the fish. If out with a Jew friend, become "as" a Jew and don't order the pork sandwich with a side of bacon.
I have heard that reasoning before. Their is a grain of truth in that in the spirit of it.
But it does not address my statements nor negate them.