Reproving the world of sin

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How's this for a "false" accusation? We who embrace the grace are much more, and I mean much more loving than you folks who embrace self righteousness. That's a fact. And don't try feeding us any nonsense that you're sharing tough love because you don't know love enough to share it.
Rofl! Ya I'm really feelin the love from the peanut gallery. LOL! :)
 

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you see people. here is what drives these threads, certain people see themselves as sinless, and righteous, and thereby think it is o.k. to look down on. and cast stones at other people. all this is pride. pride. pride. " look at what a good Christian I am, everyone needs to be like me. " this is their mindset. no humility, no thankfulness or glory to God through Christ , it's all about me, what I do, what I don't do, etc.....


earlier today, a person accused me of never adding anything edifing to there posts. I posted John 3-16, and reminded this person that they are not sinless. and was told that was not edifing. there is a prideful mindset.
 
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you see people. here is what drives these threads, certain people see themselves as sinless, and righteous, and thereby think it is o.k. to look down on. and cast stones at other people. all this is pride. pride. pride. " look at what a good Christian I am, everyone needs to be like me. " this is their mindset. no humility, no thankfulness or glory to God through Christ , it's all about me, what I do, what I don't do, etc.....


earlier today, a person accused me of never adding anything edifing to there posts. I posted John 3-16, and reminded this person that they are not sinless. and was told that was not edifing. there is a prideful mindset.
You posted a verse along with your usual railing accusation? Well hush my mouth. LOL :)
 
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followjesus,

I do agree with some of what you state here and I want you to know that.

Sadly, there are some contemporary teachers that do not teach grace in a responsible biblical way, there are many teachers/preachers who may eventually do great harm because they teach by omission or they stress some parts with little catch phrases and do not teach on other parts. Some scriptures are reinterpreted to fit the new paradigm of grace.

There is a general lack of discernment among Christians today, maybe it has always been this way, I am not sure, I stay away from Churchianity as I may have to stay away form this message board soon.

The thing that is worrisome is if a grace teacher (who may indeed be a wolf among the sheep) and has a huge following becomes embroiled in a scandal as we have seen so many times in the past, it does great harm to our witness and testimony.

Not all grace teachers omit and twist.
https://expreacherman.com/
If you have any interest I think this is a very balanced place to visit, not endorsing it, but it is one place that is definitely straightforward and simple.




such a good insight into how this particular deception is working. I even went as far as to watch several sermons by " the most well known" revolutionizer of this grace....watched and payed close attention and his ommitals and twisting of what was plain, stood out so much more than any beneficial message he has. I used to think whats the harm in this thinking, but as you are saying, when confronted with the truth of the word its issue is clear. at ALL costs cling to the lie, at all costs, omit what Jesus says of things. even when you study paul in the spirit, this doctrine is opposite what he teaches.

they "divide" the word by only admitting what seems positive to humans. I was reading last night in the o.t. " the false prophets were telling the people God would never punish them, hes too good, they were chosen people, God would always be for them regardless of behavior" there is no difference now. Jesus is full of Grace but it is not what is taught by thos false doctrine. He is Just like God the Father, His ways are our life His authority is our Life, our reverence for Him is our life. really can see the spirit speaking through much of your posts, be blessed brother as you follow the truth and walk in His victory
 
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That's right, I am not reproving non believers by the words of God, but those who claim to be "believers." :)
Exactly, this agrees as well.

1:Cr 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

This is who he wasnt talking about

1 Cr 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

1 Cr 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

1 Cr 5:13
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. (spoken of earlier in1 Cr 5:1) whereas in 2 Cr 7:17 mentions that by the same letter by which they were made sorry his care in the sight of God might be evident to them in respects to repentance (and what it had wrought in them). Also earlier in 2 Cr 2:9 the punishment which was inflicted by the many (which he instructed them in 1 Cr 5:12) and to know the proof of them ( as he speaks of it) in respects to their obedience in that matter 2 Cr 2:9 and that followed with a receiving again 2 Cr 2:6-7 after a shunning in that thing which becometh not the saints.

In 2 Cr 12:21 he seems to be adressing the same he adressed in 1 Cr 5:1 which was commonly reported among them stating he
I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed,

He gave space to repent as the Lord is shown to do in the Rev 2:21 sense likewise even Rev 9:21 speaks of such that neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Its something to repent of

He also writes

1 Ti 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Seems to confirm.


Peace






 
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More nonsense: That is from a self-proclaimed heretic hunters website. This is like going to an atheist website to find about the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Well, if that guy's a heretic hunter, I'm gonna read more of his stuff, 'cause when he he caught Joseph Prince, He bagged a big'un, LOL!
 
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The Enemy quotes Scripture and he's still the Enemy.
I'd rather be your enemy than an enemy of the cross. BTW, making me your enemy is your decision, not mine!
 
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How's this for a "false" accusation? We who embrace the grace are much more, and I mean much more loving than you folks who embrace self righteousness. That's a fact. And don't try feeding us any nonsense that you're sharing tough love because you don't know love enough to share it.
I agree with ISIT..... boy, we're really feelin' the love over here, lol!
 
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You posted a verse along with your usual railing accusation? Well hush my mouth. LOL :)
Even more self righteousness. The laughter is sadly on you and you're too blind to see it. But in Christ there is hope.
 
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I'd rather be your enemy than an enemy of the cross. BTW, making me your enemy is your decision, not mine!
Try again. I didn't accuse anyone of being my enemy other than The Enemy. You must have a guilty conscience.
 
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If Christ was your Righteousness you'd spend a lot more time thanking Him and praising Him rather than preaching about works salvation and self righteousness.

hes in a bible discussion forum Utah, discussing a false doctrine. its deceptions and dangers, you are then going to say He doesn't spend enough time praising God in His Life and His righteousness isn't from Christ? the reason God has placed this guy and others like Him here to remind everyone that Jesus Is Lord. His words are the exact words of God taught to mankind for salvation. in those words He is the one saying these things and because "Christians" don't want to hear what Jesus clearly is saying obey me, what you do matters greatly, live right, forgoive or else, be nerciful or else ect. Jesus has a message it is what is called the Gospel. it is for the salvation of man. if His righteousness IS from Jesus, He will be teaching what Jesus said to teach.


matthew 28:18-20 "Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


what valid argument can any Christian deduce from this command after the resurrection that would justify coming against teaching obedience to the commands of Jesus Christ? it is the truth of all doctrine. the foundationof all doctrine approved By God. Gods own word are eternal


"This is my Son Listen to Him." This is my son in whom I am well pleased, Listen to Him." Jesus taught much more about obedience than anything else. no one should ever complain about what Jesus said. His words " go teach them to obey everything that I have commanded you" all nations. same thing he meant when He said " go preach this gospel to all nations" and " this gospel of the Kingdom will be preached to all nations and then the end will come"

if Jesus were himself telling you all to obey Him in person face to face, would you have an issue? because His words are there forever always true always relevant to anyone who chooses Him, those whom he has chosen first. he is the same always. faithful to His word
 
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I agree with ISIT..... boy, we're really feelin' the love over here, lol!
For people who think they're perfect you sure do present yourselves in a prideful, blasphemous manner. Jesus overturned the tables of those folks who disrespected God. You Pharisees disrespect God even more so, but I digress, keep mocking His saving grace. The Rich Man and Lazarus; read it and learn, or don't, and weep.
 
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Rofl! Ya I'm really feelin the love from the peanut gallery. LOL! :)

as if Grace incudes omiiting Jesus commands lol if grace includes ignoring the Lord, a kindergarden lesson would be WRONG. " "Why do you call me Lord Lord and do not do what I say?"
 
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hes in a bible discussion forum Utah, discussing a false doctrine. its deceptions and dangers, you are then going to say He doesn't spend enough time praising God in His Life and His righteousness isn't from Christ? the reason God has placed this guy and others like Him here to remind everyone that Jesus Is Lord. His words are the exact words of God taught to mankind for salvation. in those words He is the one saying these things and because "Christians" don't want to hear what Jesus clearly is saying obey me, what you do matters greatly, live right, forgoive or else, be nerciful or else ect. Jesus has a message it is what is called the Gospel. it is for the salvation of man. if His righteousness IS from Jesus, He will be teaching what Jesus said to teach.


matthew 28:18-20 "Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


what valid argument can any Christian deduce from this command after the resurrection that would justify coming against teaching obedience to the commands of Jesus Christ? it is the truth of all doctrine. the foundationof all doctrine approved By God. Gods own word are eternal


"This is my Son Listen to Him." This is my son in whom I am well pleased, Listen to Him." Jesus taught much more about obedience than anything else. no one should ever complain about what Jesus said. His words " go teach them to obey everything that I have commanded you" all nations. same thing he meant when He said " go preach this gospel to all nations" and " this gospel of the Kingdom will be preached to all nations and then the end will come"

if Jesus were himself telling you all to obey Him in person face to face, would you have an issue? because His words are there forever always true always relevant to anyone who chooses Him, those whom he has chosen first. he is the same always. faithful to His word
Don't give me that hyphenated-Christian nonsense when referring to me or those of us who embrace God's grace. I've literally been Christian and glorifying God for His loving, saving grace since before you were born.

I'm a hospice chaplain sharing God's comforting words with the multitudes who are at death's door. I'm in the trenches hugging people who just threw up all over themselves. What are all you pious, self righteous chest thumpers doing 40+ hours a week? Do tell! I'm all ears; and infinitely more importantly, so is God.
 

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Better to be pitiful at being hateful than being good at it.

Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ
Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom I am the worst.