guyss why is there so many bibles???

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Azad_Tural said:
salem everybody my name is azad, i havent been on here very much long time... nw coming back, i wana have answer for this question like mny other questions i still hav in my mind . y is there so many bibles? different bibles wid different titles n verses ?? hmmm :confused: inchallah u guyz can answr me without hating me ok? :D hudafiz
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For the same reason that the Koran has so many versions.

Which do you prefer?

Pickthal?

Freeminds?

Yusuf Ali?

etc, etc etc...
 
Azad_Tural said:
listen mans, all im sayin is that a holy book from almighty should be jus one.. like himself he is one.. there shouldnt be confuision u know??? agree?
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so why does Quran copy the history of Abraham from the Torah?
and in the Quran, the same stories of Abraham's life are repeated more than once. why?
the accusations you make, are accusing the book you are saying is holy, too.

why didn't the Muslim simply accept the Torah, which predates Quran by at least 2,000 years?
 
Azad_Tural said:
salem everybody my name is azad, i havent been on here very much long time... nw coming back, i wana have answer for this question like mny other questions i still hav in my mind . y is there so many bibles? different bibles wid different titles n verses ?? hmmm :confused: inchallah u guyz can answr me without hating me ok? :D hudafiz
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Hello Azad, and welcome back...
The Bible was originally written down in Hebrew and Greek (with bits in other languages). The original written versions are no longer available, but copies are. The Jews made significant effort to preserve the written words of what we call the Old Testament without error, as the Christians did with both Old and New testaments after Christ's death and resurrection. There were many translations made in many languages. The earliest versions in English were produced between about 1200 and 1600. In 1604, King James of England commissioned a new complete version in English, which for much of the English-speaking world became a standard for several hundred years. It was not, however, translated from manuscripts, but from published translations. Many manuscripts were found after its publication which throw new light on what the originals said. These have been incorporated into versions translated and published after 1611, when the first 'King James' version (also known as KJV) was published. Even the KJV itself has undergone several revisions, and if you purchase a King James Bible today, it is not identical to the one published in 1611.
Not only are there many versions in English, some of which have sub-headings in the chapters, there are also many "editions" such as study bibles (usually with extra bits like concordances, atlases, etc.), student bibles, commentary bibles, etc. There are also many publishers with copyrights to a particular version, and as the Bible is the single best-selling book of all time, there is money to be made in printing it. Of course, languages other than English have multiple versions as well.
While there are many versions, and sadly much controversy about which is best (or worst!), there are very few really bad versions. You can read almost any Bible in English and come to know Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord.
What almost every English edition will tell you is that there is one God and three Persons who each are God: the Father, the Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ, who is fully God, came to live among humans, taught about God, performed miraculous signs and healings, was betrayed, crucified by Roman soldiers, suffered and died to pay the penalty for sin (yours, mine, and everyone's). He was buried, and three days later, rose again to life. He appeared to many people, was physically touched by several, and eventually ascended into Heaven. According to the Bible, Jesus will return to destroy forever the person and work of the evil one, and to judge all humans, living and dead. According to the Bible, Jesus is a prophet but not merely a prophet; He is King of kings and Lord of lords. He is above every mere human who ever lived or will ever live, and above every angelic being also. Eventually, every person will acknowledge that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Azad, I would like to invite you to accept Jesus Christ as Lord, as Saviour, and as King. May the truth of Who He is be made plain to you.
 
Azad_Tural said:
salem everybody my name is azad, i havent been on here very much long time... nw coming back, i wana have answer for this question like mny other questions i still hav in my mind . y is there so many bibles? different bibles wid different titles n verses ?? hmmm :confused: inchallah u guyz can answr me without hating me ok? :D hudafiz
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well first of all there are translations into multiple languages...

in addition there are multiple translations within each language...each one expresses the original hebrew and greek thought using slightly different english text...

finally there are many 'study bibles' by many authors with many different kinds of explanatory notes provided for many different general or specific purposes...
 
Azad_Tural said:
but how come holy book like qur'an has only 1 version?????????
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actually there are many translations of the quran...

two that i can think of from memory right now are the translation by abdullah yusuf ali and the translation by muhammad pickthall...
 
Azad_Tural said:
salem everybody my name is azad, i havent been on here very much long time... nw coming back, i wana have answer for this question like mny other questions i still hav in my mind . y is there so many bibles? different bibles wid different titles n verses ?? hmmm :confused: inchallah u guyz can answr me without hating me ok? :D hudafiz
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Because some people want to make money of out selling Bibles and if they have copy rights to a Bible version they can get more money out of it.. They can only copy right a version of the Bible if it is Different from other Bibles so they produce a version different to the original enough to make it different enough so that they can have their own copy right to that version, so they can control it and therefore make more money...

Bibles like the King James Version do not have a copy right so anyone can produce that version without having to pay royalties to someone who owns the copy rights..
 
Adstar said:
Bibles like the King James Version do not have a copy right so anyone can produce that version without having to pay royalties to someone who owns the copy rights..
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Some people find the KJV difficult to read due to the old English style of writing
which bears little resemblance to how we speak and/or write today compared to
hundreds of years ago. Modern translations make it easier for some people to
understand the revealed written Word of God. For instance, some translations are
written so that people with a lower grade level of comprehension is required
to grasp the concepts being put forth.

  • KJV — Grade 12 Level of comprehension
  • NRSV — 11
  • NASB — 11
  • HCSB — 7-8
  • ESV — 10
  • NIV — 7-8
  • RSV — 12
  • CEB — 7
  • NKJV — 7
  • NLT — 6
  • GW — 5
  • Message — 4-5
  • NCV — 3
  • NIrV — 3
 
Azad_Tural said:
listen mans, all im sayin is that a holy book from almighty should be jus one.. like himself he is one.. there shouldnt be confuision u know??? agree?
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Well you have the Torah, Gospel and the Quran because as written in Mark 9:5 "...and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias." Of course all three are basically the same Book merely from different perspectives. But of course in order to teach a people how to read and write the written spoken word you need a Book to learn from. (Isaiah 29:12) Thus, 1 Cor 14:18 "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:"

Since I answered your question the best I could, would you answer a question I have? Since it is written that a Prophet is one whom the LORD has raised up and put his words in that Prophets mouth, since Muhammad did not receive the Quran from the LORD but from an Angel, then wouldn't the Prophet actually be the Angel who the LORD gave the Quran to deliver unto the people of the Middle East. If not mistaken didn't the Angel actually had to teach Muhammad how to read and write since they had not a written language until they received the Quran. Which it is interesting that the Quran was given to Muhammad yet wrote about him in the past tense, I guess it is like when the Torah which is believed by many to have been written by Moses yet writes about his death before the end of Deuteronomy. Anyway, you don't have to respond if the question makes you uncomfortable.
 
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Adstar said:
Bibles like the King James Version do not have a copy right so anyone can produce that version without having to pay royalties to someone who owns the copy rights..
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If not mistaken, Her Majesty and the Royal Family owns the copyright to the King James Version yet it is the "Crown Copyright".
 
Also Islam hasn't been around near as long as Christianity and no where near as long as Judaism.....Islam is a cult, and cults always stick to one book without any variation and also up until early 1900s KJV was it
 
Azad_Tural said:
but how come holy book like qur'an has only 1 version?????????
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It doesn't it has been translated to English, French, Italian, Indian, Chinese, Spanish, Russian, German, Dutch and so on and the words mean different things and the culture. So you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.
 
Magenta said:
Some people find the KJV difficult to read due to the old English style of writing
which bears little resemblance to how we speak and/or write today compared to
hundreds of years ago. Modern translations make it easier for some people to
understand the revealed written Word of God. For instance, some translations are
written so that people with a lower grade level of comprehension is required
to grasp the concepts being put forth.

  • KJV — Grade 12 Level of comprehension
  • NRSV — 11
  • NASB — 11
  • HCSB — 7-8
  • ESV — 10
  • NIV — 7-8
  • RSV — 12
  • CEB — 7
  • NKJV — 7
  • NLT — 6
  • GW — 5
  • Message — 4-5
  • NCV — 3
  • NIrV — 3
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Man4TheWord said:
Also Islam hasn't been around near as long as Christianity and no where near as long as Judaism.....Islam is a cult, and cults always stick to one book without any variation and also up until early 1900s KJV was it
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Exactly what is 'it' that the KJV allegedly was? Certainly it was not the only Bible available in English. It was only published in 1611, so for approximately 1550 years prior, the KJV was most certainly not 'it'.
 
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Why is the KJV easier to read? The KJV uses one or two syllable words while new versions substitute complex multi-syllable words and phrases.

Readability statistics generated from Grammatik and Word for Windows show why the KJV is 5th grade reading level, while the NKJV and NASB are 6th grade, and the NIV is 8th grade reading level! The KJV averages:
less syllables per word

less letters per word

less words per sentence

smaller percentage of long words

greater percentage of short words than the NKJV, NIV, NASB and NRSV


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According to readability statistics generated by Pro-Scribe, the KJV is easier to read than USA Today, People Magazine and most children’s books."


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Smaller percentage of long words. This technique applied by the KJV translator is very unique. This particular technique is called "contraction". Example: "Alway" is used not as "always" all the time in the KJV. "Allway" as in the below passage is the contraction of "all the way". It has something to do with the place and not the time.

Thank you.

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
 
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