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Hi mate, this is a pretty good link that discribes how different races can easily have come from Noah and his family
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html
also concerning the amount of time it takes for culture to develope, we as Australians relatively recently had our 200th year since whites settle here, I was quite amazed when I first thought about it that it just feels like we've been here forever but it was only a few generations back that the first whites set foot on this shore. I'd say give us 3000 years and you'll see some serious culture and history just like the great empires. America and England and China have only relatively become so massive and powerful, the used to ride around on horseback with swords protecting their little castles. An amazing amount of developement and diversity can come over a relatively short period of time.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html
also concerning the amount of time it takes for culture to develope, we as Australians relatively recently had our 200th year since whites settle here, I was quite amazed when I first thought about it that it just feels like we've been here forever but it was only a few generations back that the first whites set foot on this shore. I'd say give us 3000 years and you'll see some serious culture and history just like the great empires. America and England and China have only relatively become so massive and powerful, the used to ride around on horseback with swords protecting their little castles. An amazing amount of developement and diversity can come over a relatively short period of time.
How is that hard to believe? That would be a lesser miracle compared to what else is written in the Bible.
Jesus did ascend to Heaven in physical form, so why cannot four horsemen descend from Heaven aswell?
Remember that those that left the Arc grew to be many decade older that we are today.
Noah was more than 600 years old.
There was a lot more time for these people to perfect their civilizations that God helped them build.
Jesus did ascend to Heaven in physical form, so why cannot four horsemen descend from Heaven aswell?
Remember that those that left the Arc grew to be many decade older that we are today.
Noah was more than 600 years old.
There was a lot more time for these people to perfect their civilizations that God helped them build.
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And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
so a guy named death will literally come riding from the skies to earth?
so a guy named death will literally come riding from the skies to earth?
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Ah, snail's got a point about the Indians. That thought occured to me at the time that I had posted, whether indians were included, but the website didn't say, so I made an assumption. On looking around at other websites, there is a huge disparity between estimates of the population at that point in history, most of which center around exactly how many indians there were.
Sorry for that bit of disinformation.
Sorry for that bit of disinformation.
...Which came from European immigration, not to mention the medical and agricultural revolutions. Not all Americans are descendants from those original 4,600.
According to this chronology: http://www.nwcreation.net/biblechrono.html which counts the generations between creation and Noah, the flood occurred ~4,500 years ago, around 2500 BC. We're not really talking about "thousands of years" here - if this timeline is correct, they would have a few centuries at best.
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Aye, they came from Europe, but obviously, it wasn't only migration, cuz the population in Europe has never been so high as it is now.
Concidering the plague (Black Death) in the 14th century killed (estimated) 100 million people, it seems that population recovered in 150 years. So mankind can reproduce quite fast I guess
Concidering the plague (Black Death) in the 14th century killed (estimated) 100 million people, it seems that population recovered in 150 years. So mankind can reproduce quite fast I guess
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Another thing to take into account here is the deterioration due to the fall, we think we are alot smarter today because of such huge advancement in knowledge and technology but historically there are indications that ancient peoples knew things that we are only just finding out about, I believe that the wisdom and understanding that Adam and eve must of carried would be huge, and a lot has been lost. We have grown darkened in our understanding. I know this is not a comprehensive answer but it's definately a factor to consider. Egypt was built in line with constellations in the sky that indicates they could map the stars without telescopes and think a lot of wisdom and understanding has been lost when these civilization dissapeared. And they didn't get it from aliens, or more advanced civilizations, we just had more capacity before and we come from a perfect source or origin.
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Very true. Even while many people believed in a flat earth, the Bible suggested already a round earth:
Isaiah 40:21-22 - "the circle of the earth."
So it appears that God provided more knowledge then we often think...
Isaiah 40:21-22 - "the circle of the earth."
So it appears that God provided more knowledge then we often think...
You presumed wrongly me thinks. The word circle is referring to the circle that decribes this earth:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/np/paul_tobin/astronomy.html
A flat circular disk earth covered with a hard sky dome firmament above it. That's really what the bible teaches. Close to our spherical earth model, but not quite. Jumping to conclusions if we think they meant the equator around a spherical earth. There's no 3D language in those scriptures it should say the "ball of the earth" if they thought it was a ball.
http://webspace.webring.com/people/np/paul_tobin/astronomy.html
A flat circular disk earth covered with a hard sky dome firmament above it. That's really what the bible teaches. Close to our spherical earth model, but not quite. Jumping to conclusions if we think they meant the equator around a spherical earth. There's no 3D language in those scriptures it should say the "ball of the earth" if they thought it was a ball.
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You presumed wrongly me thinks. The word circle is referring to the circle that decribes this earth:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/np/paul_tobin/astronomy.html
A flat circular disk earth covered with a hard sky dome firmament above it. That's really what the bible teaches. Close to our spherical earth model, but not quite. Jumping to conclusions if we think they meant the equator around a spherical earth. There's no 3D language in those scriptures it should say the "ball of the earth" if they thought it was a ball.
http://webspace.webring.com/people/np/paul_tobin/astronomy.html
A flat circular disk earth covered with a hard sky dome firmament above it. That's really what the bible teaches. Close to our spherical earth model, but not quite. Jumping to conclusions if we think they meant the equator around a spherical earth. There's no 3D language in those scriptures it should say the "ball of the earth" if they thought it was a ball.
As long as Belgium lies in the centre it's okay with me I do not condone any bashing of any kind however there are some so called "Christians (fundamentalists and non-fundamentalists)" that I do find that look like they have no compassion and will distort Christianity into hatred and intolerance towards those who's beliefs differ from their own. This video is one example of a person who does that
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