Bernie putting that Clinton payout to good use by buying himself a new $600k house

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Mitspa

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I'm sad he endorsed Hillary but have no reason to doubt his integrity. I don't see him as a sell out because he is doing what many conservatives are doing and "voting for the lesser of evils". He and I disagree on the lesser of the evils, it's clearly Hillary, the woman that screwed him out of the nomination, but I don't hold that against him.

If Bernie chose not to endorse Hillary after the pledge, then people (probably Ultimatum77) would be posting and saying, "HAHAH! What a hypocrite and a liar! He claims to be a man of integrity but he isn't keeping his pledge! Typical socialist Democrat!" But by honoring his pledge and supporting who he feels is more consistent with his political desires, he is now a "sellout". Anyone who isn't blind can see an anti-Sanders person takes this as a lose-lose for him, impossible to come out on top.
So do you think Bernie is going to get paid?
 

Desdichado

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Even you Bernie Babes have to be a little disappointed that Bernie seems to be more like a typical Democrat than a real social warrior?
He's a perfectly consistent socialist.

Nobody should be able to own a private jet and 600k lakehouse. Except him when his revolution kind of materializes.

Peter Popoff no doubt works very hard, but he's a conman who sells magic wishing water. Sanders is a conman who works hard to sell the political equivalent and that makes him a tyrant even if he sincerely believes himself to be something different.
 
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As for his endorsement, I could care less. I'd prefer tyrants clash and undermine each other, but what they do doesn't change my goals. Just overarching strategy.
 
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I'm sad he endorsed Hillary but have no reason to doubt his integrity. I don't see him as a sell out because he is doing what many conservatives are doing and "voting for the lesser of evils". He and I disagree on the lesser of the evils, it's clearly Hillary, the woman that screwed him out of the nomination, but I don't hold that against him.

If Bernie chose not to endorse Hillary after the pledge, then people (probably Ultimatum77) would be posting and saying, "HAHAH! What a hypocrite and a liar! He claims to be a man of integrity but he isn't keeping his pledge! Typical socialist Democrat!" But by honoring his pledge and supporting who he feels is more consistent with his political desires, he is now a "sellout". Anyone who isn't blind can see an anti-Sanders person takes this as a lose-lose for him, impossible to come out on top.
Lol...I like being subquoted in parentheses :)
 
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Ultimatum77

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You're sentiments towards Sanders are something you're entitled to and were very apparent even before this post.

You don't like him ideologically. You don't like him as a person. You don't like what he did from birth to age 40... he was "lazy" and didn't want to get off his butt... I disagree. He went out to fight for civil rights. He was arrested for his convictions and refusal to give in to the social norms of his day. In his early 30's, he ran for governor and for the senate as a 3rd party candidate (to which he lost). Getting a consistent paycheck isn't the only means to measure one's contribution and impact in society. Jesus didn't start his ministry until his 30s and I'm uncertain if he ever had a consistent paycheck. I'm not saying Bernie Sanders is Jesus or that Sanders' work was as important as Jesus, however I do believe historical figures had other missions, perhaps God-given, that are/were more important than the amount of money they make. Even if you disagree with this, certainly you can acknowledge Sanders was a bit ambitious in his 20's and 30's by trying to be governor/senator as an independent. If he was lazy, he wouldn't have wanted to make a difference.

By the way, it's comical you say Trump never asked for a handout... Well, when your dad gives you a "small" loan of a million dollars, that means you never have to ask anyone else for anything...
Kim, with all due respect I will say Sanders is no social warrior as he portrays himself....he uses groups to his advantage like every other politician....this election cycle it was the millenials with the absolutely horrendous promise of free education...which means I'll give you a "free education" today but once your out of college I'm going to tax you till you can't breathe....which is a lose-lose because you're just being promised garbage like obama did where he says free which really means not free but crazy tax rates and slamming you with the big bill at the end....

I will applaud sanders for being anti-corporations but I also am very skeptical that it was a sham to attract middle income/class workers to vote for him by being their "social messiah" for justice against the man (in this case corporations).

Trump was running businesses well before age 40....not much can be said about mr. b.s. other than writing some garbage....to pay the bills...

I wouldn't bash sanders for endorsing HC if they had similar views but it's how the democrat lackey system works....you scratch each other's backs....but to endorse her after being the total anti-hillary shows a lack of character/standing by principles. It's being a snake oil salesman of selling something different than what you really have.....

There is nothing free about healthcare...., education....welfare.....all are called "free" but are paid by heavy taxation....

Sanders would have been OBama version 1.5 with Clinton being the full blown version 2.0.

One nut is down the other is still on the loose.....hopefully she loses big time.....America can't stand another obama otherwise it will erode what's left of a tired/battered country under Obama.
 
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If Bernie had half the virtue of Trump ..he would be somebody
 

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Kim, with all due respect I will say Sanders is no social warrior as he portrays himself....he uses groups to his advantage like every other politician....this election cycle it was the millenials with the absolutely horrendous promise of free education...which means I'll give you a "free education" today but once your out of college I'm going to tax you till you can't breathe....which is a lose-lose because you're just being promised garbage like obama did where he says free which really means not free but crazy tax rates and slamming you with the big bill at the end....

I will applaud sanders for being anti-corporations but I also am very skeptical that it was a sham to attract middle income/class workers to vote for him by being their "social messiah" for justice against the man (in this case corporations).

Trump was running businesses well before age 40....not much can be said about mr. b.s. other than writing some garbage....to pay the bills...

I wouldn't bash sanders for endorsing HC if they had similar views but it's how the democrat lackey system works....you scratch each other's backs....but to endorse her after being the total anti-hillary shows a lack of character/standing by principles. It's being a snake oil salesman of selling something different than what you really have.....

There is nothing free about healthcare...., education....welfare.....all are called "free" but are paid by heavy taxation....

Sanders would have been OBama version 1.5 with Clinton being the full blown version 2.0.

One nut is down the other is still on the loose.....hopefully she loses big time.....America can't stand another obama otherwise it will erode what's left of a tired/battered country under Obama.
I think opinions on Sanders tend to hinge on how people view social justice warriors in general. When they are insincere, they are contemptible. When they are sincere, they are terrifying.
 
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If Bernie had half the virtue of Trump ..he would be somebody
He's aptly called crazy bernie b/c he speaks one way then several hours later changes to another tone....The man is old enough he may need alzheimers pills otherwise he's blatantly lying... :) either way crazy bernie fits on him perfectly.
 
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I think opinions on Sanders tend to hinge on how people view social justice warriors in general. When they are insincere, they are contemptible. When they are sincere, they are terrifying.
True there are real social warriors like what MLK used to be and then there are piggybackers like Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson who hijack causes all to make money/profiteering off individuals and stirring their emotions. Al and Jesse have played the African American community with this ploy for quite some time and made good money off of causing emotional stirring/riots.

Anyway that's another topic but I think Sanders is a piggybacker on the millenials and using them the same way as Al does with the BLM etc...
 
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If Bernie had half the virtue of Trump ..he would be somebody
Then I guess that means Sanders is a pretty spectacular individual as he has infinite more virtue than Trump.

I would venture to say you've never read his books where he brags about being anything BUT virtuous in his business deals? He's pragmatic, I'll give him that... but "virtuous" and "pragmatic" are not synonymous.
 
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True there are real social warriors like what MLK used to be and then there are piggybackers like Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson who hijack causes all to make money/profiteering off individuals and stirring their emotions. Al and Jesse have played the African American community with this ploy for quite some time and made good money off of causing emotional stirring/riots.

Anyway that's another topic but I think Sanders is a piggybacker on the millenials and using them the same way as Al does with the BLM etc...
You might have a point... if Sanders suddenly started voicing his "millennial ideologies" during his campaign. Why not go to youtube and see how long Sanders has been saying the same thing rather than flip-flop every other week like Trump and Hillary?

Unless you're suggesting that Sanders was targeting for the millennials back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's so that he could have a legitimate shot at getting a presidential nomination.
 
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Bernie Sanders meant well in a Cousin Eddie kind of way. Thing is, nobody's ever asked Bernie what he was going to do when he ran out of other peoples money :confused:.
 
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Mitspa

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Then I guess that means Sanders is a pretty spectacular individual as he has infinite more virtue than Trump.

I would venture to say you've never read his books where he brags about being anything BUT virtuous in his business deals? He's pragmatic, I'll give him that... but "virtuous" and "pragmatic" are not synonymous.
Didn't Bernie start out writing cheap porn type books?
 
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You might have a point... if Sanders suddenly started voicing his "millennial ideologies" during his campaign. Why not go to youtube and see how long Sanders has been saying the same thing rather than flip-flop every other week like Trump and Hillary?

Unless you're suggesting that Sanders was targeting for the millennials back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's so that he could have a legitimate shot at getting a presidential nomination.
I've watched some of Bernie's speeches/interviews from the 80's.....and it's the same crap for the last 30-40yrs....

To say that bernie sanders was targeting millenials makes no sense at all....millenials weren't born until the late 80's and 90's.....to say I'm suggesting that makes no sense and doesn't explain how he jumps from group to group to gather voters.....
he first started off with blacks in the 60's 70's and then went to middle class America in the late 80-2000
s....now in 2014-2016 he's trying to game the millenials.....

To say Sanders is a man of virtue is stretching the very definition of virtue itself...the man is a socialist with absolutely no morals.....he's the kind of sicko that would call child porn.....interpretive art or some other bs.....not to mention that I have already posted the links to where he writes about sexual vices to pay his bills ......
 
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I've watched some of Bernie's speeches/interviews from the 80's.....and it's the same crap for the last 30-40yrs....

To say that bernie sanders was targeting millenials makes no sense at all....millenials weren't born until the late 80's and 90's.....to say I'm suggesting that makes no sense and doesn't explain how he jumps from group to group to gather voters.....
he first started off with blacks in the 60's 70's and then went to middle class America in the late 80-2000
s....now in 2014-2016 he's trying to game the millenials.....

To say Sanders is a man of virtue is stretching the very definition of virtue itself...the man is a socialist with absolutely no morals.....he's the kind of sicko that would call child porn.....interpretive art or some other bs.....not to mention that I have already posted the links to where he writes about sexual vices to pay his bills ......
He would make a really scary clown....one that would give you nightmares.
 
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I don't know about VT but if its anything like cali, $600k will only get you a modest 2-story 4-bedroom, on the small side. Nothing to be up-in-arms about if a congressman buys one.
 
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....Plus his wife probably has a good career.... I'm just sayin, the hype is not as cut and dry as it seems.
 
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KimPetras

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I don't know about VT but if its anything like cali, $600k will only get you a modest 2-story 4-bedroom, on the small side. Nothing to be up-in-arms about if a congressman buys one.
Well, the OP said he paid for it all in cash, but yet no evidence or mention of that is said in the links. I would agree with you and Voldemort though. Apparently a 600k house is too rich for someone who makse 500k a year.

His goal was to really make a post giving his opinion of Sanders, but he needed something under the illusion of actual news with a possible scandal attached to validate his opinion. CNN should give him a job.
 
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KimPetras

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....Plus his wife probably has a good career.... I'm just sayin, the hype is not as cut and dry as it seems.
No, the OP said he "doubts" that his wife's family house was really sold to buy this new house. His doubt is the equivalent of verifiable fact, even if he admits he didn't look into it to know for sure.