Do we need Scripture?? or do we need to get back to it!!
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Phil, I will always remember the moment that the Holy Spirit opened my eyes as never before in the word. It was the most amzing time in faith for me. I had often seen here and there some scripture come alive, but this was everything.Living and fluid does not begin to describe it.
The most amzing part is that it happens again and agian, seeming greater but yet the same .
I witness to this because the joy of the Holy Spirit with you in reading the word is a taste of being presant with God Our Father.
Although Im probably preaching to the teachers here.
Smiles and God bless, pickles
The most amzing part is that it happens again and agian, seeming greater but yet the same .
I witness to this because the joy of the Holy Spirit with you in reading the word is a taste of being presant with God Our Father.
Although Im probably preaching to the teachers here.
Smiles and God bless, pickles
Phil, I will always remember the moment that the Holy Spirit opened my eyes as never before in the word. It was the most amzing time in faith for me. I had often seen here and there some scripture come alive, but this was everything.Living and fluid does not begin to describe it.
The most amzing part is that it happens again and agian, seeming greater but yet the same .
I witness to this because the joy of the Holy Spirit with you in reading the word is a taste of being presant with God Our Father.
Although Im probably preaching to the teachers here.
Smiles and God bless, pickles
The most amzing part is that it happens again and agian, seeming greater but yet the same .
I witness to this because the joy of the Holy Spirit with you in reading the word is a taste of being presant with God Our Father.
Although Im probably preaching to the teachers here.
Smiles and God bless, pickles
exactly!
thank you pickles.
in his great and wonderful grace,
vic
Phil, I will always remember the moment that the Holy Spirit opened my eyes as never before in the word. It was the most amzing time in faith for me. I had often seen here and there some scripture come alive, but this was everything.Living and fluid does not begin to describe it.
The most amzing part is that it happens again and agian, seeming greater but yet the same .
I witness to this because the joy of the Holy Spirit with you in reading the word is a taste of being presant with God Our Father.
Although Im probably preaching to the teachers here.
Smiles and God bless, pickles
The most amzing part is that it happens again and agian, seeming greater but yet the same .
I witness to this because the joy of the Holy Spirit with you in reading the word is a taste of being presant with God Our Father.
Although Im probably preaching to the teachers here.
Smiles and God bless, pickles
That was perfect pickles, That is why I alway call Scripture "The Living Word" it is not just paper and ink.
It is what feeds us, the living word. we can read all small part or a large part in one day but it has fed us spiritually for that day.. amen.
It is the Authority on all matters of Faith also.
What you said is spot on, but the debate with VW is not about that. re read post #9, thats the real issue.
in Love
Phil.
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John 6:63
63The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit[a] and they are life.
Hebrews 4
12For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
63The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit[a] and they are life.
Hebrews 4
12For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
It certainly is living, and very active, thats why it has Authority. for we know its source, and the reason for it.
1 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness
It is our Spiritual food! it is the Auhtority on all matters of Faith.. Praise our Sovereign God.
1 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness
It is our Spiritual food! it is the Auhtority on all matters of Faith.. Praise our Sovereign God.
C
The NT epistles tell us to pray for the wisdom and knowledge of Jesus Christ without doubting you will receive. Holy Spirit opens our understanding to the Word. This only occurs i feel if we apply ourselves to hunger and thirst for Him, lukewarm doesnt cut it, spending more time with Jesus be it in His written Word, Praise and worship or even just being still and knowing He is God and loving Him, some people read and get "puffed up with knowledge' yet then forget the core message to all the bible, His love for us
phil,
in his love, i will try, one more time, to explain. i have almost given up, as you seem to want to misunderstand whatever i say.
authority flows from the greater to the lesser, from the top to the bottom. that which is created is under that which created it.
these things are obvious. what is not so obvious is that if we believe that we have in our hand authority because we have the scriptures, we have seriously misused god's gift.
i am reminded of the man who saw paul casting out demons, and went and tried to command the demons in the name of jesus whom paul preached. the demon answered and said, jesus i know, and paul, but i do not know you. then it defeated this man who tried to use god's authority, without god's leave to do so.
the principle here is that there is authority in god's word, but it is his authority, not ours. the real danger is that we use the word. in any way. it is not our word, but god's.
i read the bible quite a lot, but i never use the word unless lead to by the spirit, because i will not even take that step which leads to the error of balam.
in his wonderful love, vic
in his love, i will try, one more time, to explain. i have almost given up, as you seem to want to misunderstand whatever i say.
authority flows from the greater to the lesser, from the top to the bottom. that which is created is under that which created it.
these things are obvious. what is not so obvious is that if we believe that we have in our hand authority because we have the scriptures, we have seriously misused god's gift.
i am reminded of the man who saw paul casting out demons, and went and tried to command the demons in the name of jesus whom paul preached. the demon answered and said, jesus i know, and paul, but i do not know you. then it defeated this man who tried to use god's authority, without god's leave to do so.
the principle here is that there is authority in god's word, but it is his authority, not ours. the real danger is that we use the word. in any way. it is not our word, but god's.
i read the bible quite a lot, but i never use the word unless lead to by the spirit, because i will not even take that step which leads to the error of balam.
in his wonderful love, vic
do you believe that god cannot talk to us without the book?
i chose not to limit god to my understanding of the bible.
50 people can read the same verse, and get 50 different interpretations.
the spirit can say in the heart of every person in the world that jesus has risen from the dead, and every single one will know that he has risen. not all will believe, but they will know, and in that day, they will have no excuse.
i chose not to limit god to my understanding of the bible.
50 people can read the same verse, and get 50 different interpretations.
the spirit can say in the heart of every person in the world that jesus has risen from the dead, and every single one will know that he has risen. not all will believe, but they will know, and in that day, they will have no excuse.
K
That is a very interesting post phil, and all of your statistics greatly reflect what I've witnessed in America. I grew up in the church so I remember what the kids and sermons were like. I would say a huge problem is the minimal amount of reading the Bible in sermons (using one or two verses as a reference point for a half-hour sermon) combined with the child's lessons of the SAME stories. (Jacob, Ester, Abraham, Jesus, Job- and never anything else.)
A lot of my peers had the impression they knew the Bible backwards and forwards when they were teenagers. I'm 23 now and when I went church hunting I'd say I was lucky to find 3 people my age in church. A lot of people my age won't read the Bible because "it bores [them]". Most of them don't even know a lot of what is in it.
A lot of my peers had the impression they knew the Bible backwards and forwards when they were teenagers. I'm 23 now and when I went church hunting I'd say I was lucky to find 3 people my age in church. A lot of people my age won't read the Bible because "it bores [them]". Most of them don't even know a lot of what is in it.
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*agrees* Refers you back to the Adam and Eve example I just cited. Yes he can talk without the book.
And through scripture it can be said too. Because his words ARE spirit and they ARE and they ARE living and they ARE active.
Jesus spoke words directly to folks and there were many interpretations too. Some wondered if he was the Christ, others didn't even consider it. Direct speaking in to hearts does not equate to there always being ONE interpretation by the masses.
And through scripture it can be said too. Because his words ARE spirit and they ARE and they ARE living and they ARE active.
Jesus spoke words directly to folks and there were many interpretations too. Some wondered if he was the Christ, others didn't even consider it. Direct speaking in to hearts does not equate to there always being ONE interpretation by the masses.
Below is an article I got, Scripture alone. If you do not take God's word as authoritive, then what do you hear in all things VW? can you discern them yourself??? as you said before earlier from the inner man?? anyhow please read below
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” John 10:27.
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“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” John 10:27.