(ritual) circumcisions today

[emjcares]

Jeremiah 31:33

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put MY LAW(Torah) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Ezekiel 36:26

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

This is the new covenant in Christ and this is the Law of Christ.

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

You stopped short, Jer. 31:33 AND 34.
And Heb.8:10-13.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

You stopped short, Jer. 31:33 AND 34.
And Heb.8:10-13.

I agree with all of it. God will not remember the sin of Israel no more.

 

[FreeNChrist]

That is what is just according to God. So yes. You do understand Jesus Christ is going to destroy allot of sinners when He returns ? I can guarantee you there will be no homosexuals floundering around in Christs 1000 year Kingdom and Rule!

If not then He would have to repent for destroying Sodom and Gomorrah and for drowning sinners in the flood.

We don't stone people because we do not have our own land as a nation yet, rather we boot them out of the assembly. But people die spiritually all the time, and that is death too. God is not the God of the dead but of the living. Men who have sex with men should not be in fellowship with followers of Christ. Those are reprobates given over to their own lusts and not to God.

So you would kill homosexuals and disobedient children. You'd do well under Sharia law.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

So you would kill homosexuals and disobedient children. You'd do well under Sharia law.

Yes I would gladly. So the evil could be rid out of the land and everybody could see and fear and do no more such wicked abomination.

 

[PennEd]

Oops, there it is.

It would be so sad, if it wasn't so offensive to God for the shed blood of His Son, that they are blind to the fact that it is JESUS who sets us free, NOT the law. It's like they just can't quite trust Jesus, so they think those who rely on God's Grace will use our freedom to justify, and even promote, doing more sin, so clinging to the law, and trying reeeeaaally hard not to break it, helps Jesus out a little bit, and eases their minds over their sin because at least they aint sinning worse than those Grace alone people, or unbelievers.

 

[FreeNChrist]

It would be so sad, if it wasn't so offensive to God for the shed blood of His Son, that they are blind to the fact that it is JESUS who sets us free, NOT the law. It's like they just can't quite trust Jesus, so they think those who rely on God's Grace will use our freedom to justify, and even promote, doing more sin, so clinging to the law, and trying reeeeaaally hard not to break it, helps Jesus out a little bit, and eases their minds over their sin because at least they aint sinning worse than those Grace alone people, or unbelievers.

The good thing, if there is anything good about it, is that this guy is so far out there, that even legalists have to shake their heads in disbelief. But, actually he has just taken legalism to its logical conclusion. And shows just how evil it is when seen as it really is.

 

[emjcares]

So? How is a scar traumatizing?

No need to be defensive. I wasn't judging or condemning what you did. You said it was a bad experience with long recovery.
I said I hoped he was ok. I meant that from the heart.

But to add, physical scars can be traumatizing, if a kid sees them and wants to know why he has them, or gets teased. Also, we don't always know what kind of trauma takes place in the subconscious, if pain or physical trauma/intrusion on an infant, has a mental/emotional effect later on. I believe you love and care for your child very much, though. I didnt mean to offend.

Didn't some studies say not to slap a babies bottom at birth anymore?
I'm not sure, but I just was saying I hope he's okay, based on what you said about the procedure. Peace.

 

[PennEd]

Yes I would gladly. So the evil could be rid out of the land and everybody could see and fear and do no more such wicked abomination.

I think with this post you have exposed yourself as a troll just trying to mess with us.

Believe me, that's a better option for you than if ACTUALLY believe what you just posted.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

I think with this post you have exposed yourself as a troll just trying to mess with us.

Believe me, that's a better option for you than if ACTUALLY believe what you just posted.

Does this offend you ? I am talking about a scenario. Are you one of those who believe homosexual couples are going to heaven ?

 

[heavenly_bound]

See!.... you are a Judaizer by your attempts at keeping the Law. This is the reason you are getting so much flack from Christians here on this website.

Ahhh..but also you forget that loving the Lord your God with all your mind and strength is a commandment "under" the Law. We are not under the Law. No person on this earth can fulfill the greatest commandment - but only One did - Jesus Christ our Lord.

Jesus has loved the Lord His God with all His strength and mind and soul - Jesus has fulfilled that for us and so now we are in Him and rest in His life to lead us now. You keep leaving out Christ in your attempts to keep the Law which is why your religion is anti-Christ.

yes!!! that was the last straw that broke the camel's(religion's) back!!!!!!!

 

[Magenta]

Does this offend you ? I am talking about a scenario. Are you one of those who believe homosexual couples are going to heaven ?

Did the sacrifice Jesus made for the sins of the world
not cover certain sexual acts between certain people?

Scripture says, He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for
ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

See!.... you are a Judaizer by your attempts at keeping the Law. This is the reason you are getting so much flack from Christians here on this website.

Ahhh..but also you forget that loving the Lord your God with all your mind and strength is a commandment "under" the Law. We are not under the Law. No person on this earth can fulfill the greatest commandment - but only One did - Jesus Christ our Lord.

Jesus has loved the Lord His God with all His strength and mind and soul - Jesus has fulfilled that for us and so now we are in Him and rest in His life to lead us now. You keep leaving out Christ in your attempts to keep the Law which is why your religion is anti-Christ.

"No person on this earth can fulfill the greatest commandment - but only One did - Jesus Christ our Lord." (Quote)

Did any of the Israelites and strangers who joined themselves to them keep covenant with God perfectly without ever committing a sin ? No. Did that mean those who did not walk away from God never received life and salvation ? No. They received salvation because they were faithful to Him. They did not abandon God but they cleaved to Him and repented of their mistakes. In the same way we are to cleave to Him. Not casting away He's instructions, which keeping is the expected end of repentance through faith. But clinging on to Him with all we got, showing God that He's faith He has put in us is not in vain. We cannot do and live how ever we want. Certain defiled people are not going to enter the kingdom of heaven if they give themselves over to the fleshly nature and live after it instead of the Spirit of God. Sin is the transgressions of the law of God, and it is by what is contained in the law of God that every ungodly sinful person is going to be judged by. Therefore it would be of great interest of the devil to make sure that as many people as possible defile God's commandments as much as possible.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

Did the sacrifice Jesus made for the sins of the world
not cover certain sexual acts between certain people?

Scripture says, He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for
ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

No. Jesus died for all who believe in Him. What I am talking about is those who are living as homosexuals while they are christians until the day they die. Those who cling on to having sex with other men. If there even is such a thing.

 

[Grace777x70]

(snip)

Therefore it would be of great interest of the devil to make sure that as many people as possible defile God's commandments as much as possible.

What is great interest to the devil is to get Christians to go back to the Law for living and abandon Christ as their source of life only. Judaizers that try to get people to go back tot he Law work for the enemy albeit mostly without knowing it. They have a zeal for God but they are trying to establish their own righteousness by keeping the Law.

Satan and his horde do not come to the believer in Christ and say "Sin all you want" because no one would for fall for such a lie.

Instead they come as "ministers of righteousness". ( keep the Law )

They want us to live by our own D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness ( Law-keepers ) so that we will be not be depending on what Christ has done for us by grace through faith alone for salvation.

This cuts us off from receiving the grace of God in our lives.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 (KJV)
[SUP]14[/SUP] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

[SUP]15[/SUP] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. ( notice that is "their" works )

This below is what satan is really after...this is why he has false teachers in our midst. He wants us to fall away from grace and depend on our own performance. ( our keeping of the Law as our modern day Judaizers try to get Christians to do which is why this belief is anti-Christ )

1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

Ok so lets say someone have just received the Spirit of Christ by faith, and all he's life he has lived like a pagan, indulging himself in as much sin and abominable things as the fleshly nature would allow him. This person is now dealing with both a fleshly sin nature and the Spirit of God nature. He is a babe in Christ and still struggle with most of the things he did before he believed in Christ and do most of the same things. Would it not be reasonable to read the Word of God or to hear a preacher of the Word of God so he would get a better understanding of what is right and what is wrong so he could be conformed to the will of God by the faith that has been given him ? Is this such a heresy or denial of Christ ?

 

[Magenta]

No. Jesus died for all who believe in Him.

He died for us before we believed in Him.

God demonstrates his own love for us in this:
While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

 

[Magenta]

Ok so lets say someone have just received the Spirit of Christ by faith, and all he's life he has lived like a pagan, indulging himself in as much sin and abominable things as the fleshly nature would allow him. This person is now dealing with both a fleshly sin nature and the Spirit of God nature.

Oh, like trying to live under the law? I see what you are saying!

He is a babe in Christ and still struggle with most of the things he did before he believed in Christ and do most of the same things. Would it not be reasonable to read the Word of God or to hear a preacher of the Word of God so he would get a better understanding of what is right and what is wrong so he could be conformed to the will of God by the faith that has been given him ? Is this such a heresy or denial of Christ ?

Being saved by faith through grace, which is a gift of God, is a wonderful thing indeed Definitely he should not put a yoke on himself, by putting himself back under the law, which is a curse to him and part of the Old Covenants, not the new. Now we have a mediator Who has told us that love is the fulfillment of the law, for it does no harm to others.

 

[prodigal]

Anything that makes 1 person feel he is above another person is a RED Flag for me. We've seen it throughout history from egypt to crusaders to nazi to pharisee and its never ended well..Jesus was very clear that a true follower serves those looking for a relationship with Jesus even to wash their feet. Paul at no point says his better than anyone else but for the Grace of God. Even when he corrected any follower he gives half a page about how to do it in love.
Personally i dont care if your black, white .yellow.brown green, circumcised, french german, canadian usa short tall royal blood adams blood abrahams blood ,ancestors were israelites,greeks barbarians snowmen ..If you are searching continually to deepen your relationship with him then you are my brother ,sister,mother,father, son or daughter in christ....


if you think your better than everyone else because you happen to have been circumcised..please please just go away..
there's people that have sacrificed their lifes for christ and people here learning to

 

[simplifiedtruth]

Oh, like trying to live under the law? I see what you are saying!

Being saved by faith through grace, which is a gift of God, is a wonderful thing indeed Definitely he should not put a yoke on himself, by putting himself back under the law, which is a curse to him and part of the Old Covenants, not the new. Now we have a mediator Who has told us that love is the fulfillment of the law, for it does no harm to others.

If this is how everyone thinks about it(Original post), I will stop posting in this thread.