My marriage is falling apart

[simplifiedtruth]

You keep confusing lust with a desire to marry. They are not the same thing.
And it is a sin to lust after others, period, whether they are married or not. Jesus said so.

To the pure, all things are pure. But to the defiled nothing is pure because their mind and conscience is defiled.

Funny how God made things, that the opposite sexes are attracted to each other. I wonder if as many people would consider marriage if there was no desire originally intended within it. It would probably be as attractive as a normal man wanting to marry a man.

1 Corinthians 7:8

I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

Paul's suggestion is that it is good for them to marry if they burn within themselves.

 

[trofimus]

Jesus said, anyone. That would include both married and unmarried, don't you think?

Whatever, I am just asking what does "adultery" requires in English, thats all I dont want to argue with you, its only a question, because I do not know it.

 

[Magenta]

Whatever, I am just asking what does "adultery" requires in English, thats all I dont want to argue with you, its only a question, because I do not know it.

I am simply trying to answer your questions I gave you what Jesus said; He said anyone. He did not specify that the person lusting needed to be married for it to be a sin, nor did he specify that the woman being lusted after needed to be married for it to be a sin. A plain reading of Scripture as given has Jesus telling us that any many who lusts after any woman has committed adultery in his heart.

 

[trofimus]

I am simply trying to answer your questions I gave you what Jesus said; He said anyone. He did not specify that the person lusting needed to be married for it to be a sin, nor did he specify that the woman being lusted after needed to be married for it to be a sin. A plain reading of Scripture as given has Jesus telling us that any many who lusts after any woman has committed adultery in his heart.

Ok, I leave it I was not talking about the verse, but about English. Nevermind.

 

[WarriorForChrist]

Here is something I just read and agree with. I believe this lines up with the bible.

[h=2]
Patheos.com

Fornication and Adultery[/h]Fornication is any sex outside of marriage and it also has severe consequences. When a couple engages in sex before marriage they increase the likelihood of divorce and with this, a higher chance for committing adultery after marriage. Cleary, the Bible teaches that any sex outside of marriage is sin and since we know we reap what we sow; those who commit pre-marital sex will pay in one way or the other for their sinful lust. Lusting after someone other than your spouse is either adultery (if done by someone who is married) or sexual immorality (if done outside of marriage). If someone is single and lusts after someone that is married, that is sin to them and God sees it as adultery.

 

[Magenta]

I am simply trying to answer your questions I gave you what Jesus said; He said anyone. He did not specify that the person lusting needed to be married for it to be a sin, nor did he specify that the woman being lusted after needed to be married for it to be a sin. A plain reading of Scripture as given has Jesus telling us that any many who lusts after any woman has committed adultery in his heart.

Certainly that is how it makes the most sense to me, as well as it being what is revealed through a plain reading of Scripture with proper exegesis. Why would Jesus say, oh, it is a sin if you lust after that woman because she is married but go ahead and lust all you want after that girl because she is single? That just comes across a sick and twisted and yet that is exactly what at least one person has subversively been promoting on this thread.

 

[trofimus]

To the pure, all things are pure. But to the defiled nothing is pure because their mind and conscience is defiled.

Funny how God made things, that the opposite sexes are attracted to each other. I wonder if as many people would consider marriage if there was no desire originally intended within it. It would probably be as attractive as a normal man wanting to marry a man.

1 Corinthians 7:8

I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

Paul's suggestion is that it is good for them to marry if they burn within themselves.

Yeah, it can be quite hard to distinguish between lust, desire, sexual attraction etc.

I think that every dating of single persons has some desire in it, or else there would be no reason to marry each other instead of friendship...

 

[Magenta]

Not to mention the fact that none of us are sinless.

 

[trofimus]

Here is something I just read and agree with. I believe this lines up with the bible.

[h=2]
Patheos.com

Fornication and Adultery[/h]Fornication is any sex outside of marriage and it also has severe consequences. When a couple engages in sex before marriage they increase the likelihood of divorce and with this, a higher chance for committing adultery after marriage. Cleary, the Bible teaches that any sex outside of marriage is sin and since we know we reap what we sow; those who commit pre-marital sex will pay in one way or the other for their sinful lust. Lusting after someone other than your spouse is either adultery (if done by someone who is married) or sexual immorality (if done outside of marriage). If someone is single and lusts after someone that is married, that is sin to them and God sees it as adultery.

So according to this definition, Jesus is probably talking about married man or woman...

Or it should be translated like "commited fornication with her in his heart".

 

[WarriorForChrist]

So according to this definition, Jesus is probably talking about married man or woman...

Or it should be translated like "commited fornication with her in his heart".

Well like it says, if a single person lusts in his/her heart toward a married person then it is adultery. If a single person lusts toward another single person in his/her heart then it is fornication. At least that is my understand of what the author is trying to explain. The thing is, how does someone know for sure if someone is married or not? Some people don't wear rings so the main point is don't lust after someone who you aren't married to.

I also believe if two people are in a relationship and in love, but not married, there is going to be some lust involved, it is only natural. I think when it becomes all you think about then there are issues with sin. But, I also believe if both in the relationship put God before all things and lean on Him daily, the temptations will get less and less.

 

[emjcares]

Not to mention the fact that none of us are sinless.

https://youtu.be/ShGn1aRUuEY
Why dont vids load anymore???!!!

 

[laura_charlotte]

He not only allows it, he permits it, regulates it and commands it to be performed in He's eternal law. God himself is a polygamist, having two wives. He would not be a bad example to mankind if it was a sin to do so.

That's it, it's just their flesh fails comprehension. That's why they struggle so much with the concept and also lack having a thorough understanding of biblical principles on the matter.

 

[RobbyEarl]

Matthew 5:27

[FONT=&quot]27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

God does not have two wives. He has know wife, only the bride which is the church.[/FONT]

 

[simplifiedtruth]

Matthew 5:27

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

God does not have two wives. He has know wife, only the bride which is the church.

Matthew 5:27 Is talking about somebodies wife in the Greek(Specially a wife). Yes God has two wives, Christ paved the way for the divorced one to be married to him again by He's death and resurrection which made her free to marry Him again.(Romans 7:1-6).

Eze 23:1 The Word of Jehovah came again to me,
Eze 23:2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother.
Eze 23:3 And they fornicated in Egypt; they whored in their youth, their breasts were handled, and there their virgin nipples were worked.
Eze 23:4 And their names were Oholah, the oldest, and Oholibah, her sister. And they were Mine, and they bore sons and daughters. And their names: Samaria is Oholah, and Jerusalem is Oholibah.
Eze 23:36-37 And Jehovah said to me: Son of man, will you judge Oholah and Oholibah, and declare to them their abominations, that they have committed adultery,

Jer 3:1 They say, If a man puts away his wife, and she goes from him and will be for another man, will he return to her again? Would not that land be greatly defiled? But you play the harlot with many lovers; yet come back to Me, says Jehovah.

Jer 3:6Jehovah also said to me in the days of Josiah the king, Have you seen that which backsliding Israel has done? She has gone up on every high mountain and under every green tree, and has fornicated there.
Jer 3:7 And I said after she had done all these things, Turn to Me! But she did not return. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.

Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes for which backsliding Israel committed adultery, I sent her away and gave a bill of divorce to her, yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but she went and whored, shealso.

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, says Jehovah, that I will cut a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah,
Jer 31:32not according to the covenant that I cut with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which covenant of Mine they broke, although I was a husband to them, says Jehovah;

Romans 7:1 (Talking about scattered house of Israel, God's wife)

Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3So then if, while herhusband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.4Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.


Deuteronomy 24;1

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. 2And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. 3And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; 4Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

 

[Namiette]

The discussion about adultery and polygamy is really very interesting.

But in my opinion the real problem is not the question "if the husband committed adultery or not". In my point of view the real problem is that a husband has hurt his wife. He knowingly did something. And he knew that it will hurt her if she knows. And this is, in my opinion, the real sin, that he committed. No matter if it is adultery. He committed sin when had hurt his wife. Just my opinion.

 

[LaurenTM]

Obviously it would be wrong to lust after people which may be married and thereby committing adultery in your heart with with someone else's wife. However it does not make it illegal wanting to marry a fair to look upon woman. Btw , a married woman is supposed to wear a head covering, showing she is under the authority of her husband.

I'm thinking some men could use a bag over the head too...or blinders

like as if a man who is used to lusting...or a woman for that matter...could turn it off because they learned someone was married

do you watch much porn?

just wondering

 

[LaurenTM]

To the pure, all things are pure. But to the defiled nothing is pure because their mind and conscience is defiled.

Funny how God made things, that the opposite sexes are attracted to each other. I wonder if as many people would consider marriage if there was no desire originally intended within it. It would probably be as attractive as a normal man wanting to marry a man.

1 Corinthians 7:8

I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

Paul's suggestion is that it is good for them to marry if they burn within themselves.

yeah...you just ripped the gears on that verse

trying to say the rest of us have minds in the gutter but you are pure

egads

your head must be getting ready to explode with the nonsense

oh one more thing...all unmarried people are not burning and constantly talking about sex

love may create desire, but going in with desire only ? that burns out

but of course how would you know? you are saintly unmarried...