Donald Trump, Wavering on Immigration, Finds Anger in All Corners

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Sir, you are reading way too much into what I said. I don't need to watch a video of Clinton and Putin because I know she is crooked, I was hoping Donald wasn't, but whenever I found out that he was kinda crooked, like her, well...then I was really disappointed...
Trump's businesses have long been international... worldwide. Of course he has looked into business deals in Russia and almost every other nation on Earth. Russia is not our sworn enemy, you know. They do not send out terrorists. In fact, not long ago, we fought alongside them as allies.... and it might be smart for us to do it again to rid the world of Isis.
 
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Yo, your all welcome to cross the pond but I have to warn you
our politicians flip flop all over the place as well.


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I didn't hear trump say anything he had not said before ? The Hillary supporters repeat whatever nonsense they are told to say.
 
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Trump has hired people to get swing voters on his side. He has been very loud about immigration needing to be fixed but it has been said he is being over obnoxious about it and to harsh. I disagree that he is being to harsh in a lot of ways. We need someone to step in and get things fixed we are losing tons of jobs to other countries then illegals will come here and work jobs and take them away from the Americans that need them. He is also saying that immigrants need to be vetted longer and better. He just does not want Joe nobody coming here and trying to blow up a community or something under his watch. I agree that rightfully vetted and legally processed immigrants that do the legal process of becoming a citizen is fine. Hillary wants to continue Obama's legacy by just letting people come here with out being properly vetted. This can bring diseases and all kind of other problems along with it.
 
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Trump has hired people to get swing voters on his side. He has been very loud about immigration needing to be fixed but it has been said he is being over obnoxious about it and to harsh. I disagree that he is being to harsh in a lot of ways. We need someone to step in and get things fixed we are losing tons of jobs to other countries then illegals will come here and work jobs and take them away from the Americans that need them. He is also saying that immigrants need to be vetted longer and better. He just does not want Joe nobody coming here and trying to blow up a community or something under his watch. I agree that rightfully vetted and legally processed immigrants that do the legal process of becoming a citizen is fine. Hillary wants to continue Obama's legacy by just letting people come here with out being properly vetted. This can bring diseases and all kind of other problems along with it.
Its pretty simple what he is saying and has been saying...folks have to want to twist his words to come up with all the nonsense we hear.

Just like the Mexican judge ...a member of la raza (the race)..a racist Mexican group.
That stupid so-called gold star father ... a known associate of the muslim brother hood ....The MSM is so afraid to be painted with the racist PC brush...they are incapable of being honest.
 
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The way I understood it that borders were instituted for protection. Much like walls in biblical times. Illegal immigrants circumvent the vetting process, don't they?
Why would we want to take that risk? Especially in these times of terror.
Thats understandable and I agree but Trump started his campaign talking about sending Illegals back,building a wall ect....

Whats troubling Is,the people that are for him,are for him because of those very promises.

The question Is,now that he has a base that's for him regardless,will they still be happy If he goes back on his promises now that he has their vote In the bag?
 

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Thats understandable and I agree but Trump started his campaign talking about sending Illegals back,building a wall ect....

Whats troubling Is,the people that are for him,are for him because of those very promises.

The question Is,now that he has a base that's for him regardless,will they still be happy If he goes back on his promises now that he has their vote In the bag?
I think most people who are going to vote for trump are hopefully going to figure out that he is not really changing what he wants to do in a major way he is just calming down the tone so he can get the swing voters on his side. Most peple will figure out that he will still do what he has been saying all along eventually
 
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Thats understandable and I agree but Trump started his campaign talking about sending Illegals back,building a wall ect....

Whats troubling Is,the people that are for him,are for him because of those very promises.

The question Is,now that he has a base that's for him regardless,will they still be happy If he goes back on his promises now that he has their vote In the bag?
Understandable? It is paramount for a nation to continue to be a nation to have secure borders and a fair immigration process that figures out who people are before letting them live among us.
 
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I think most people who are going to vote for trump are hopefully going to figure out that he is not really changing what he wants to do in a major way he is just calming down the tone so he can get the swing voters on his side. Most peple will figure out that he will still do what he has been saying all along eventually
That guy Is a true con man.lol
 
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Understandable? It is paramount for a nation to continue to be a nation to have secure borders and a fair immigration process that figures out who people are before letting them live among us.
I mean,I agree.
 

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Trump's businesses have long been international... worldwide. Of course he has looked into business deals in Russia and almost every other nation on Earth. Russia is not our sworn enemy, you know. They do not send out terrorists. In fact, not long ago, we fought alongside them as allies.... and it might be smart for us to do it again to rid the world of Isis.
Vladimir Putin is straight up gangsta. He would definitely be a good Ally in a fight.
 

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Also as I have said on numerous threads, occasionally Trump will say something that I agree with however his childish antics make him unfit as a leader.. his behavior is extremely unprofessional and anyone who doesn't see that is selectively blind
 
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Also as I have said on numerous threads, occasionally Trump will say something that I agree with however his childish antics make him unfit as a leader.. his behavior is extremely unprofessional and anyone who doesn't see that is selectively blind
I think a lot of that has to do with an audience feeding to his obviously enormous ego. Have you watched him in boardroom situations? He seems to have the ability to soon have almost everyone at the table coming to complete agreement with him.
 
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One of the few things Trump doing I could support is that he would be tough on immigration...especially immigrants of one particular religion...but now what?
Several months ago when talking about Trump's immigration policy, I was on record as being 100% in support of his plan. Obama doesn't enforce the existing laws. What is the point of having law of it's not enforced?

If Donald backtracks, then I too lose a little bit more respect and hope for Trump... not that there is an excess of it to begin with. I want Donald to hold true to his immigration policy. He better not flip flop like he has on so many important issues.
 
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i wonder if he will succeed in this.
It would have been an over-achievement if Rubio or Cruz got 40+% of the Hispanic vote. Trump... there is no way in heck Trump gets a significant portion of the Hispanic vote.

Hopefully the new crop of Hispanic republicans has better luck in the future. It's just difficult to get the Hispanic vote when we are in favor of supporting existing law on immigration. Most Hispanics want leniency for law breakers coming into the country illegally. I 100% sympathize, but it doesn't make their actions justified.