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GuidanceGodsWay said:
If you are sincere then I'm happy to share the physics, etc... with you. It seems for the most part people here just want to ridicule something they've obviously never gave a real chance and just closed their mind. That's fine, I just don't want to waste my time on those people.

I'll start with what you mentioned first, "theory of gravity", on a flat earth gravity is not needed to explain anything because the provable and repeatable density/buoyancy FACT (not theory) takes care of it.

Please let me know if I need to go into more detail, I'm not assuming how much you know or do not know about physics.
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To be correct Gravity has not much to do with the earth being flat or sphere because its in space as well all throughout the universe. black holes left behind from a supernovae are like Gravity disposal, Gravity was created from the beginning even before earth was formed.
 
Yahweh_is_gracious said:
Ooh, I want to see this. I'm dying to know how the conservation of angular momentum no longer applies, and since it doesn't on a flat Earth, then I am really interested to see what replaces Newton's Laws of Motion...and by extension, a major portion of Differential and Integral Calculus, both that developed by Newton and from Leibniz too.
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What????????????
 
When people talked with the Lord, the Bible says he always perceived their heart and saw their real motive. When you get right down to it, this whole flat earth theory boils down to one thing: paranoia. They don't trust that the Lord gives us his wisdom and that we don't have to be anxious about anything.

Everything they come up with to explain away laws of physics is out of fear of being deceived. They are easily manipulated and untrusting of humanity. They feel much safer in their own imaginations and the more people they can get to validate them, the more secure they feel. These people feel they have found the absolute truth and don't even realize it's all based on fear.

The Word says that there is no fear in love, for perfect love casts out fear.
 
Yahweh_is_gracious said:
Ooh, I want to see this. I'm dying to know how the conservation of angular momentum no longer applies, and since it doesn't on a flat Earth, then I am really interested to see what replaces Newton's Laws of Motion...and by extension, a major portion of Differential and Integral Calculus, both that developed by Newton and from Leibniz too.
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while Newton and others have done good findings in their discoveries on Gravity, yet still have only scratched the surface on the complete physics of it. Its usages and purposes and still even today there is so much more to be discovered and learned on the subject, a mustard seed in comparison.
 

I love those last two lines:

"And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger-all down here on Earth!" ♪ ♩ ♫

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BeyondET said:
while Newton and others have done good findings in their discoveries on Gravity, yet still have only scratched the surface on the complete physics of it. Its usages and purposes and still even today there is so much more to be discovered and learned on the subject, a mustard seed in comparison.
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shh...don't spoil it. Let the flat-Earth believer take a stab at it. We can discuss the merits of physicists and their theories of gravity at some other time. Let's just sit back and enjoy the explanation we're going to get.
 
BeyondET said:
To be correct Gravity has not much to do with the earth being flat or sphere because its in space as well all throughout the universe. black holes left behind from a supernovae are like Gravity disposal, Gravity was created from the beginning even before earth was formed.
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To understand the FE concepts you have to let go of preconceived thought. For instance....... "because its in space as well all throughout the universe" is an incorrect thought when it comes to FE (Please be mindful that there are a multitude of different "models" that are out there, liken it to "Christian Denominations" I guess one could say. I am simply showing the perspective from my point of view, here and now, and I don't proclaim to be infallible by any means. I'm just me.

With FE there is no "space"/"universe" (whatever you want to call it) that we can get to outside of the Earth and Heaven (sky) beyond the firmament, water is on the "outside" of the firmament [SIZE=+1]the vault of heaven[/SIZE][FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif], or 'firmament,' regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting 'waters' above it. The celestials are IN the firmament [/FONT]Gen 1 14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.

Outside of the "waters above" we are only told this... Isa 66 1Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
 
49 said:
Thought it was 9938.999, but living in Texas, 9940 is more believable.
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Ever notice the sun is hotter when you are standing on top a ladder? It must be because I'm that much closer.
 
GuidanceGodsWay said:
I'll start with what you mentioned first, "theory of gravity", on a flat earth gravity is not needed to explain anything because the provable and repeatable density/buoyancy FACT (not theory) takes care of it.
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How does buoyancy explain how gravity is utterly unaffected by pressure or temperature variation?
In fact how does a buoyant force explain why gravity is still present in a vacuum?

If gravity is due to a buoyant force, why doesn't the shape of an object affect it? Why should it be completely dependent on mass?



 
posthuman said:

If gravity is due to a buoyant force, why doesn't the shape of an object affect it? Why should it be completely dependent on mass?
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That is to say -- why does attraction depend on mass, if it is a buoyant force? How can a buoyant force explain attraction at all? For example orbits? How does a buoyant force explain the motion of the planets?

But while gravity explains what happens in this video perfectly -- how does a buoyant force explain it?

[video=youtube;_XJcZ-KoL9o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XJcZ-KoL9o[/video]

Gravity acts independent of volume, of shape, of mass -- gravity acts on everything, at the same accelerating rate, even in a vacuum?

A buoyant force is a repelling force -- acting opposite ((guess what)) gravity. Air resistance, like we see in the first part of this video, is maybe *kind of* like buoyancy, but it sure doesn't explain why things fall down. Buoyancy just explains why boats don't sink, and resistance just explains how the force of gravity ((or other forces)) acting on an object is moderated.


((goes to work & patiently awaits detailed explanations))

BTW -- please don't send me links to watch flat-earth youtube explanation videos. Tell me what you understand. If you want to show me a video of some experimental evidence, cool, but i don't care to watch someone else -- whom i can't interact with -- give a spiel.

Thanks!
 
posthuman said:
How does buoyancy explain how gravity is utterly unaffected by pressure or temperature variation?
In fact how does a buoyant force explain why gravity is still present in a vacuum?

If gravity is due to a buoyant force, why doesn't the shape of an object affect it? Why should it be completely dependent on mass?
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Just a thought here, but aren't the Astronauts in a "vacuum?" Don't they float around because of that? How is gravity present? Just wondering.......I'm no expert on this stuff. Peanuts? Sure. Got a question about Peanuts, I'm the guy to see!
 
GuidanceGodsWay said:
To understand the FE concepts you have to let go of preconceived thought. For instance....... "because its in space as well all throughout the universe" is an incorrect thought when it comes to FE (Please be mindful that there are a multitude of different "models" that are out there, liken it to "Christian Denominations" I guess one could say. I am simply showing the perspective from my point of view, here and now, and I don't proclaim to be infallible by any means. I'm just me.

With FE there is no "space"/"universe" (whatever you want to call it) that we can get to outside of the Earth and Heaven (sky) beyond the firmament, water is on the "outside" of the firmament [SIZE=+1]the vault of heaven[/SIZE], or 'firmament,' regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting 'waters' above it. The celestials are IN the firmament Gen 1 14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.

Outside of the "waters above" we are only told this... Isa 66 1Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
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but of coarse the FE's have a multitude of different models, none add up to a hill of beans lol...
the account of firmament is on what the human mind can comprehend which only adds up to a hill of beans lol...
 
But what if both theories are right? Like, maybe Earth is a big cylinder, and the surface of the earth is the outside of the cylinder, so then Earth is technically round AND flat simultaneously. Bam. Cylinder theory.
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