Hello again,
So ahwatukee, your one of those? What do I mean? I mean your like the oneness pentecostal cult that contantly "invokes" 1 John 2:27, "And as for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches youabout all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him." Tell me, what do you think this verse is teaching ahwatukee? Did you do on Bible study on the verse?
To answer your question, I belong to no denomination. I have always done my own personal studies in the word of God. What does 1 John 2:27 have to do with the subject at hand? We are speaking about the definition of the Greek word "anastasis" and applying it to the scripture. You are ignoring the word and applying your own meaning, as though the spirit departing from the body could be interpreted as being a resurrection. You need to go study that word and the examples of the resurrections recorded in scripture. When people die and their spirits/souls depart from their bodies, that is not a resurrection. All I have been saying to you is, read the definition of the word and the context of how it is presented.
These things that I am pointing out to you are no brainers, that is, they shouldn't be. For example, in 1 Cor.15:51-53, the scripture states that when that last trumpet sounds, both the dead in Christ will rise and the living will be changed and caught up. The fact that both of these events take place at the sounding of the that last trumpet should easily tell anyone reading it that they must take place at the same time. For you can't have two last trumpets.
Since our postions are in disagreement then please reconcile why your position is the right one and mine is not?
The humble answer to your question is that I am using proper exegesis and you are not. You are not paying attention to my claim regarding the definition of the Greek word anastasis, which is where the word resurrection comes from, nor are you paying attention to the context. You will not find one place in scripture where a person who is dying as being referred to as a resurrection and that because they are not standing back up in their body, which is what the word resurrection means.
When Jesus brought Lazarus back to life and his body came out of that tomb, that was a resurrection.
When Jesus brought back Jairus' daughter Tabitha back to life and she stood back on her feet, that was a resurrection.
After Jesus was crucified, scripture states that many holy people who had died came out of their tombs and went into the city, that was a resurrection.
When Stephen was stoned and his body died that WAS NOT A RESURRECTION. And the reason is, is because his spirit departed, but his body was buried and is still buried till this day. He like all the other believers who have died in Christ, are waiting for the day when Christ will descend and their spirits will come with him and they will be reunited with their resurrected bodies. That will be a resurrection. But the spirit leaving the body at the time of death is not a resurrection.
I am and have always been open to what anyone has to say regarding scripture. But, if they are wrong in what they are claiming, then I teach, correct and contend for the truth. I would hope that you are the same way. And if you are, after you inspected what I have been telling you about anastasis and the other information that I have provided, you would see that I am correct in what I am proclaiming. Did you even go look at the word anastasis or are you just concerned about protecting your position, as so many are?
What I am telling you is the truth! That when the Lord descends from heaven, that last trumpet will sound and those spirits who have died in Christ and who will have been in his presence, will descend with him and will be reunited with their resurrected immortal and glorified bodies. Immediately after that, believers in Christ who are still alive, will be changed into their immortal and glorified bodies and will be caught up with those who will have just resurrected to meet the Lord in the air. From there John 14:1-3 will be fulfilled where Jesus takes the whole group back to the Father's house.