Why the king james?
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it's that we've had exactly this conversation before. you've had exactly this conversation before. it's not convincing. your arguments are not convincing. they all just come across as blind loyalty to a work of men.
it's not worth having again.
it's one of those things that "destroys the listener"
it's not worth having again.
it's one of those things that "destroys the listener"
Him that is weak in the faith receive ye,
but not to doubtful disputations.
(Romans 14:1)
but not to doubtful disputations.
(Romans 14:1)
First of all, I do not, or will I ever attempt to gain any credibility with you. As far as given reference to "Know the truth and the truth shall make you free." I only use quotes from the Bible assuming that those to whom I am addressing will know where the passage is. I do not use quotes from fictitious literature. As far as reading, I have spent over thirty years reading and studying the Bible (I have over twenty translations of bibles on my computer and all but one are under the title FICTION. I have a Greek Bible, and a Greek Interlinear Bible, but I have total confidence that the Scholars that wrote the KJV were far more fluid in Greek than we are and I have total confidence in their work. I also have about over thirty Christian related books and I would gladly send you a list of them, but they would probable all be Greek to you. I certainly do not need a condescending lecture from you. I am sure great men of God like Charles Spurgeon, Billy Sunday, Billy Graham, and many many other great preachers who brought millions of lost souls to the Cross of Christ were handicapped by not having a copy of the ESV that was not copyrighted until 2001.
I will agree with you on one point, the KJV does not communicate effectively with airheads like you, and never has.
You seem to delight in giving me advice,allow me to give you advice. leave your intellectual hat on the hat rack and read the KJV which I am confident you have never read. I am confident that the Scholars who wrote the KJV were much more fluid in Greek than you are. The Holy Spirit is not an intellectual He is an interpreter of the Word of God, and God has made sure the KJV is not beyond understanding by any level of intellect. However, and this is the most important point; no one can understand the KJV unless the Holy Spirit interprets it for them, so if you cannot understand the KJV you know why.
The KJV has been around over four hundred years and for four hundred years there has been those like you attempting to debunk it. If the world exist four hundred years from now, which I doubt, the KJV will still be on book shelves next to dusty shelves where ESV bibles once occupied.
Although you make me tired, it is a pleasure chatting with you. We are jumping out of different Airplanes, (I use to be a Skydiver). but hopeful we can come together before we hit the ground.
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I will agree with you on one point, the KJV does not communicate effectively with airheads like you, and never has.
You seem to delight in giving me advice,allow me to give you advice. leave your intellectual hat on the hat rack and read the KJV which I am confident you have never read. I am confident that the Scholars who wrote the KJV were much more fluid in Greek than you are. The Holy Spirit is not an intellectual He is an interpreter of the Word of God, and God has made sure the KJV is not beyond understanding by any level of intellect. However, and this is the most important point; no one can understand the KJV unless the Holy Spirit interprets it for them, so if you cannot understand the KJV you know why.
The KJV has been around over four hundred years and for four hundred years there has been those like you attempting to debunk it. If the world exist four hundred years from now, which I doubt, the KJV will still be on book shelves next to dusty shelves where ESV bibles once occupied.
Although you make me tired, it is a pleasure chatting with you. We are jumping out of different Airplanes, (I use to be a Skydiver). but hopeful we can come together before we hit the ground.
[SUP] [/SUP]
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Wow you don't know Angela at all do you.
She is a wonderful person, well educated, knows far more about Hebrew/Greek than most
on here, does work as a hospital chaplain and much much more. How presumptuous you are to think you
know a person just after reading a few sentences in a couple of weeks.
I must admit I don't know you but your words show a deep disrespect for women and you are
definately no gentleman by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm so glad the Holy Spirit is not limited to speaking only Shakespearian Antiquated English.
((can't believe i'm doing this, because we've already had this exact conversation a dozen times, and it gets nowhere, but stops somewhere between these people's ears and their brain.. but..))
Simple question:
When the Bible is to be translated into simplified Chinese, do we get out an English-to-Chinese dictionary and the KJV and go to work on it?
Or do we get out the best copies of the Greek and Hebrew originals that scholarship can piece together, and translate these into Chinese?
Simple question:
When the Bible is to be translated into simplified Chinese, do we get out an English-to-Chinese dictionary and the KJV and go to work on it?
Or do we get out the best copies of the Greek and Hebrew originals that scholarship can piece together, and translate these into Chinese?
No, I do not know Angela at all. As a mater of fact, I did not pay much attention to whom I was responding to, I thought it was someone else. Even so, my response would have been the same if I had known.
I am sure Angela is a wonderful person and so am I. Angela set the tone by lambasting my credibility. I am very passionate about defending the KJV, because I Know the history of how close this book came to never being created and if had not been for God's intervention Angela would not have to agonize over it's existence. You called me arrogant and condescending and I want deny that if, you will admit doing the same by referring to me as a woman hater even though you don't know me at all.
You accused me of doing the same thing you are doing, but to be honest with you, I will not loose one minute of sleep over it. I m very passionate about defending the KJV and I will never stop defending it if I am the last person in the world to do so. I also have very thick skin so you can throw all the bombs at me you want to.
It's a tough world and whether you are man, woman or a frog, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. I am comfortable with my relationship with Jesus Christ and in closing, allow me to leave you with something to ponder.
Fifty years ago seventy percent of Americans claimed to be Christians; today it is less than fifty percent. Humanism has infiltrated the churches in America and is an affront to God who ordained the creation of America as a shining light to the rest of the world. America has spit in the face of God and there is no way America will survive unless we turn back to Him, which is not likely. That is what you, Angela, me and the rest of the country should be concerned about rather than what Bible we prefer, but that is subject for a later time.
I am a tough passionate person unbridled when it come to defending something I truly believe in. I do not hate any human being, male or female. The only thing in life I hate is wire coat hangers, and my wife will attest to that.
GOD HELP US ALL
I am sure Angela is a wonderful person and so am I. Angela set the tone by lambasting my credibility. I am very passionate about defending the KJV, because I Know the history of how close this book came to never being created and if had not been for God's intervention Angela would not have to agonize over it's existence. You called me arrogant and condescending and I want deny that if, you will admit doing the same by referring to me as a woman hater even though you don't know me at all.
You accused me of doing the same thing you are doing, but to be honest with you, I will not loose one minute of sleep over it. I m very passionate about defending the KJV and I will never stop defending it if I am the last person in the world to do so. I also have very thick skin so you can throw all the bombs at me you want to.
It's a tough world and whether you are man, woman or a frog, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. I am comfortable with my relationship with Jesus Christ and in closing, allow me to leave you with something to ponder.
Fifty years ago seventy percent of Americans claimed to be Christians; today it is less than fifty percent. Humanism has infiltrated the churches in America and is an affront to God who ordained the creation of America as a shining light to the rest of the world. America has spit in the face of God and there is no way America will survive unless we turn back to Him, which is not likely. That is what you, Angela, me and the rest of the country should be concerned about rather than what Bible we prefer, but that is subject for a later time.
I am a tough passionate person unbridled when it come to defending something I truly believe in. I do not hate any human being, male or female. The only thing in life I hate is wire coat hangers, and my wife will attest to that.
GOD HELP US ALL