Anyone a Raw Vegan, Vegan, Or Vegetarian?

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Deidre

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Found a restaurant near where I live that serves virtually all veggies raw. Raw fish, also, but if you are not into that, you can eat a vegan raw meal. So delicious, I'd totally follow a diet of mainly raw fruits and veggies if I could make the dishes as yum as this restaurant's. lol
 
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AuntieAnt

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I'm pretty sure fruit, bread, pasta, rice and veggies are all 'normal'. I encourage you to keep at it and use good quality natural supplements to counteract any temporary effects.
Laura_charlotte, do you know much about good and bad cholesterol? If so, will you please explain the difference? There's so much conflicting info online, I get dizzy reading it. :p

Thanks!
 
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#43
personally, for both of us, because of our healthy eating habits, we never give
a care about any of the most popular scare tactics that the world is trying to
create...
 
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RoseGiver

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#44
Hey there! I am a vegan and i love it! There are so many new awesome vegan foods available.
 

Demi777

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#45
I like veggies too..I also like bacon at times...and eggs...and cake...
1 timothy 4:3
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
 
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#46
anyone who has eyes to see and ears to hear has some sense in these days to have to know about
what is good for you and what is NOT..for those who are old enough to know better and just do
NOT care about, much less doing something about their 'well-being' and 'health', well, I would
say that it simply comes down to one's 'priority', nothing else to blame it on,,,the WHOLE TRUTH...

as for our 'little ones', they are at the mercy of their over-seers...
 
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1LonelyKnight

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#47
I don't "identify" with anything. It is a mindset trap to do so. I simply live and State that I don't eat meat or dairy products. It is a lifestyle and mindset but it is not a first teaching or a command. We would all do well just to give up or cut back on fast foods, chain restaurants, bottled beverages - swine and shellfish. There are lots of other issues out there so we might create a bad impression when we 'identify'. Rather the related issues and reasons are a fair gospel to share; meat imports, factory farming methods, water use, waste gases, carbon footprint, eating foods offered to idols (game day wings, hot dogs, burgers, ribs, nachos etc), health and more.

Ezekiel 4:9 etc. reveals a complete protein diet - but more so the sins of a nation called to repent.

Some people seeing the validity of reason over identify have begun to cut back, to have one meatless day a week or a new trend "flexitarian" that cuts back and moderates - but ya don't need a name for it.

To all your good health and to a healthy environment and a fasting that drives out and wards off demons ...
 
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popeye

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#48

Great explanation, very educative.
What you were experiencing was "wellness" symptoms.

It is normal.

I meet with a group of businessmen at a local restaurant. They get all concerned when I get a veggie plate.

Every single time it is an issue.

I look at their fried foods and French fries that is taking years off their lives and GUARANTEED GUT PROBLEMS.

Sometimes I eat meat,chicken, and I see their affirmation and glee in their faces.

Comical how utterly ignorant the sheeple are.


You do right avoiding certain things.

Those guys should see the salads I make at home.

I know FOR A FACT they have never eaten 1 salad like the ones I make.

That is a travesty
 
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popeye

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I don't "identify" with anything. It is a mindset trap to do so. I simply live and State that I don't eat meat or dairy products. It is a lifestyle and mindset but it is not a first teaching or a command. We would all do well just to give up or cut back on fast foods, chain restaurants, bottled beverages - swine and shellfish. There are lots of other issues out there so we might create a bad impression when we 'identify'. Rather the related issues and reasons are a fair gospel to share; meat imports, factory farming methods, water use, waste gases, carbon footprint, eating foods offered to idols (game day wings, hot dogs, burgers, ribs, nachos etc), health and more.

Ezekiel 4:9 etc. reveals a complete protein diet - but more so the sins of a nation called to repent.

Some people seeing the validity of reason over identify have begun to cut back, to have one meatless day a week or a new trend "flexitarian" that cuts back and moderates - but ya don't need a name for it.

To all your good health and to a healthy environment and a fasting that drives out and wards off demons ...
I am not vegan,but folks that cricise vegan do not know what they are talking about.

I dare anyone to go raw for 3 days as an experiment.

It WILL change your life.
 
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popeye

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If you can stomach it watch several utube bids on bowel plaque.

It is clear we are going to die or get extremely sick over the processed,no raw,American diet.

Then look a a vid of a bowel on raw veggies.

At least you will know why you feel bad
 
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popeye

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#51
I ate completely vegan the last 4 days. I have had headaches and stomach cramps.
You gotta know what is going on inside you.

I am thinking that is a normal thing. Raw scrapes out all that plaque in your bowel.

Yes it hurts.
 
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popeye

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Ask yourself why all the dogs are getting sick and dying,creating huge vet bills,and breaking the owners hearts.


Uh,do some research on that garbage you are feeding them.

Sickness in a bag. Guaranteed to trash you dog.

READ THE BAG. INGREDIENTS.

Throw a bag of corn in the woods and watch the starving wolves walk around it.

But that is 90% of your dogs diet.
 
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popeye

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What is my point?

Sick dogs,sick people,buy mansions for vets and doctors.

We,and our dogs are monetary playgrounds for a group of people.
 

mar09

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I don't "identify" with anything. It is a mindset trap to do so. I simply live and State that I don't eat meat or dairy products. It is a lifestyle and mindset but it is not a first teaching or a command. We would all do well just to give up or cut back on fast foods, chain restaurants, bottled beverages - swine and shellfish. There are lots of other issues out there so we might create a bad impression when we 'identify'. Rather the related issues and reasons are a fair gospel to share; meat imports, factory farming methods, water use, waste gases, carbon footprint, eating foods offered to idols (game day wings, hot dogs, burgers, ribs, nachos etc), health and more.

Ezekiel 4:9 etc. reveals a complete protein diet - but more so the sins of a nation called to repent.

Some people seeing the validity of reason over identify have begun to cut back, to have one meatless day a week or a new trend "flexitarian" that cuts back and moderates - but ya don't need a name for it.

To all your good health and to a healthy environment and a fasting that drives out and wards off demons ...
Ok, here, i just copied the passage to easily read again.

Eze 4:9 Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof, according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon thy side, three hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof.
Eze 4:10 And thy meat which thou shalt eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels a day: from time to time shalt thou eat it.
Eze 4:11 Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.
Eze 4:12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
Eze 4:13 And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
Eze 4:14 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth.
Eze 4:15 Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.
Eze 4:16 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, behold, I will break the staff of bread in Jerusalem: and they shall eat bread by weight, and with care; and they shall drink water by measure, and with astonishment:
Eze 4:17 That they may want bread and water, and be astonied one with another, and consume away for their iniquity.
 

mar09

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You do right avoiding certain things.

Those guys should see the salads I make at home.

I know FOR A FACT they have never eaten 1 salad like the ones I make.

That is a travesty
I suppose its not all spinach salad like popeye's=)? Actually, we happen to have rice as our staple, u might know, so we always have some viand to go with it, unless it was something like chow fan of the chinese w/ all sorts of add-ons and u wont need viands. As other american and foreign food flood the market, however, i am glad to have a taste of stuff we dont normally have. But some of these are pricey (lettuce, broccoli..) but we do have malabar spinach or alugbati, other tropical leaves and flowers like the charantia/ampalaya and squash flowers . It was only recently i am gtting to know more abt local greens often eaten in other regions like the north, but they are often cooked for are they not tough when not! Saluyot or jute, for example, is a given in the Ilocanos' diets long, long ago, but neither my parents from there and we didnt grow up eating that or being exposed to such nutritious veggies (or other grasses or weeds), for as i said it is only a few yrs ago i learned that abt many greens w/c we never had at home growing up. Young yuca or cassava leaves, for example, although the recipe ive tasted is again cooked, not as salad. Still, if u have the chance, do post some of ur salad recipes on cc, that we may try out what we cannot see u make at home. Ah, and even nuts are a luxury, u know. The most we have are peanuts, some cashew and pili, otherwise what is normal 1/4 cup of walnuts, almonds or whatever in recipes we have to forego-).
 
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aforgivensonofGod

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Its because your body is not used to it. All our lives we've been eating toxic foods and once you make that change, you will get sick and have deaw backs. But after a week or two, your body will adapt and you will amazing and alive after.
 
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masmpg

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I have been a vegetarian for almost 4 years, I am considering going fully vegan and then maybe fully raw. Anyone else any of these diets?
My ex and I became vegetarian in 1985 and vegan after my second child was born in 1986. We were vegans for 15 years and raised our children vegan. I was vegetarian until around 2005 when my mom died and 6 months later my son of 23 died. This was hard so I went back to eating meat, drinking, drugs for a couple years. The hardest part was that my "church family" of 25 years never came to visit, no phone calls. I was totally alone for two years after he died, and I was even attending church, before I started drinking again, but nothing. Maybe I expected too much, but when someone I knew in church lost a loved one I would cook for them, visit them and comfort them as much as possible. This almost shook my faith right out of me, but the Holy Spirit kept pounding on the door to my heart and calling me back like the prodigal son, and I have come back to Jesus, I am vegan most of the time. I will eat a turkey and a prime rib for the holidays, and maybe some halibut a couple times per year. I will say that the vegan lifestyle is no die-it, it is a live-it! It is a lifestyle not a fad. While raising my children we never had any kind of animal products in our house. Every once in a while we would go out to dinner at a salad buffet like Sizzler, and would eat the ranch dressing. My children really enjoyed the salad bar and people in the restaurant were amazed as they watched them gather their salad, and an occasional onion ring. My youngest son, who is 31, his favorite food to this day is brussel sprouts.

As for 100% raw? One of my "church family" of 25 years and his wife did seminars on raw food preparation for close to 10 years. there are some benefits of raw preparation, but there are some foods that must be cooked that are very healthy and I would say a necessary part of our diet like legumes. Even though they can be used germinated with all the enzymes in tact they still have excellent necessary proteins that are not cooked out. We can get our enzymes from germinated grains, but I would suggest keeping this in mind. My raw food friend is now paralyzed from the waist down. He has been battling cancer for a couple years
 
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1LonelyKnight

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
U.S. National Library of Medicine - National Institutes of Health

Beyond Meatless, the Health Effects of Vegan Diets: Findings from the Adventist Cohorts

Abstract
Vegetarians, those who avoid meat, and vegans, additionally avoiding dairy and eggs, represent 5% and 2%, respectively, of the US population. The aim of this review is to assess the effects of vegetarian diets, particularly strict vegetarian diets (i.e., vegans) on health and disease outcomes. We summarized available evidence from three prospective cohorts of Adventists in North America: Adventist Mortality Study, Adventist Health Study, and Adventist Health Study-2. Non-vegetarian diets were compared to vegetarian dietary patterns (i.e., vegan and lacto-ovo-vegetarian) on selected health outcomes. Vegetarian diets confer protection against cardiovascular diseases, cardiometabolic risk factors, some cancers and total mortality. Compared to lacto-ovo-vegetarian diets, vegan diets seem to offer additional protection for obesity, hypertension, type-2 diabetes, and cardiovascular mortality. Males experience greater health benefits than females. Limited prospective data is available on vegetarian diets and body weight change. Large randomized intervention trials on the effects of vegetarian diet patterns on neurological and cognitive functions, obesity, diabetes, and other cardiovascular outcomes are warranted to make meaningful recommendations.
 
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masmpg

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What is my point?

Sick dogs,sick people,buy mansions for vets and doctors.

We,and our dogs are monetary playgrounds for a group of people.
If people took their health matters into their own hands doctors would go broke!

Most doctors are nothing more than legal drug pushers and get huge kick backs from pharma corps. One very obvious evidence of this is how many pharmacies are in your town??? In a town close to me they have a walgreens on one side of the street and a rid aide on the other. Pharma corps have many cures for probably every known disease, but where is the profit in that? They create drugs to prolong the disease and cover symptoms so the gullible doctor loving public will take one medication for the original ailment then another one to fix what that first drug created like kidney failure, then another for hypertension caused by the kidney fixer and so forth, until the patient runs out of money and cannot afford their poisons any more! Far too many people put their trust in someone who admittedly practices medicine on them.
 
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So glad to hear you have the right idea!

If people took their health matters into their own hands doctors would go broke!

Most doctors are nothing more than legal drug pushers and get huge kick backs from pharma corps. One very obvious evidence of this is how many pharmacies are in your town??? In a town close to me they have a walgreens on one side of the street and a rid aide on the other. Pharma corps have many cures for probably every known disease, but where is the profit in that? They create drugs to prolong the disease and cover symptoms so the gullible doctor loving public will take one medication for the original ailment then another one to fix what that first drug created like kidney failure, then another for hypertension caused by the kidney fixer and so forth, until the patient runs out of money and cannot afford their poisons any more! Far too many people put their trust in someone who admittedly practices medicine on them.