Building upon a lie

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
quote_icon.png
Originally Posted by InSpiritInTruth

Just so everyone knows gb9 constantly bears false witness, and when constantly asked to prove his false accusations he, like his fellow false accusers never provide any proof where I have said the things they suggest, like in the above quote.

So once again, I will give him a chance to quote my own words where I said I believe in "sinless perfectionism." When he does not provide the proof, then everyone will know (again) he is nothing more than a liar and a false accuser. :)

everyone does not know that gb9 bears false witness against you

first of all, that would entail everyone having to read ALL your posts and ALL his posts

I get the impression that you think you don't sin when I read your posts

maybe that is where he thinks he saw that you think you do not sin...from your posts

calling him a liar should really be something you avoid...when Christ was accused, he just kept quiet

why do you have to make such noise about it if you think you are right all the time?
 
I will also give you a chance to quote my own words instead of trying to mislead others and bear false witness about what I admit to, and do not admit. :)

Go ahead. Set the record straight, so we can all quote your own words without bearing false witness.
 
just so everyone knows : the o.p. believes In sinless perfectionism, and has said that he does not deliberately sin, sometimes for days. he did not say that here, that I saw, but he has in the past.

2nd point- he shows up, posts some verses, then challenges anyone to " refute " what he posted. but, Scripture does not refute Scripture. it complements , not contradicts.
In the 3 and half yrs I've been here, he was my very 1st, About 1.5 yes ago, IGNORE.
 
In the 3 and half yrs I've been here, he was my very 1st, About 1.5 yes ago, IGNORE.

And you constantly make note of that in many of my threads. LOL Thanks again for adding so much love and grace and spiritual insight into another one of my threads. :)
 
In the 3 and half yrs I've been here, he was my very 1st, About 1.5 yes ago, IGNORE.

You have not missed anything - his posts are still condemning people - full of hatred and malice, slander and he calls everyone a false teacher and we are all reprobates and haters of God's word...same nonsense as ever.

His first posts back after being gone for awhile are nothing but defiling the CC forum here - as usual.

I encourage everyone to click on his name and view his posts and you will see exactly the "spirit" that is driving his posts and it is NOT the Holy Spirit.

We all would be better off if we implemented Romans 16:17 in these types of cases.

 
So when I don't actually say it, then that makes it somehow OK for you to just make stuff up? LOL You guys are funny (in a weird kind of way) :)

You think no one sees you running and hiding in plain view?? It seemed so clear to you when you were making it all about “others” and “their" sins, eh??
 
.... he calls everyone a false teacher and we are all reprobates and haters of God's word...same nonsense as ever.

His first posts back after being gone for awhile are nothing but defiling the CC forum here - as usual.

Everyone eh? LOL Bit of a stretch don't ya think? And defiling the forum by posting the Truth? LOL!!! By the way, I like how you even copy paste your railings, insults, and false accusations. Saves time I guess? :)
 
You think no one sees you running and hiding in plain view?? It seemed so clear to you when you were making it all about “others” and “their" sins, eh??

My threads are directed to all and for all, the ones who might take it personal might just be the ones who have a guilty conscience. But ya know, the power of the Holy Spirit will do that concerning matters of the heart and conscience. :)
 
My threads are directed to all and for all, the ones who might take it personal might just be the ones who have a guilty conscience. But ya know, the power of the Holy Spirit will do that concerning matters of the heart and conscience. :)

No, the Holy Spirit in us recoils at your continuous attempts to malign the gospel of the grace of Christ and to slander those that stand up for the true gospel which is complete reliance on Christ's work alone for salvation and life.

That is the real reason why people respond to your posts in the manner that they do.
 
Last edited:
My threads are directed to all and for all, the ones who might take it personal might just be the ones who have a guilty conscience. But ya know, the power of the Holy Spirit will do that concerning matters of the heart and conscience. :)

We are talking about you and your refusal to set the record straight about your claim that others were bearing false witness against you personally. It's personal for you. Seems you must be projecting onto others that guilty conscience you are experiencing yourself. :)
 
Here's some "solid biblical foundation" for ya....


Acts 10:43
"All the prophets testify about Him that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name.”


2 Corinthians 5:19
"that God was reconciling the world to Himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And He has committed to us the message of reconciliation."


Colossians 1:14
"in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins."


Colossians 2:13
"When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins"


Colossians 3:13
"Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you."


Ephesians 1:7
"In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace"


Ephesians 4:32
"Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."


1 John 2:12
"I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of His name."


Hebrews 8:12
"For I will forgive their wickedness, and will remember their sins no more.”


Hebrews 10:17
“...Their sins and lawless acts, I will remember no more.”


Believe it.
I see present tense, but not future tense. No "forevers" no "eternallys"

This present tense can be seen as "what you're doing & what you've done". It does say somewhere, "once, for all", but not "once and for all"

Once, for all mankind. God is no respecter of persons.
 
Just so everyone knows gb9 constantly bears false witness, and when constantly asked to prove his false accusations he, like his fellow false accusers never provide any proof where I have said the things they suggest, like in the above quote.

So once again, I will give him a chance to quote my own words where I said I believe in "sinless perfectionism." When he does not provide the proof, then everyone will know (again) he is nothing more than a liar and a false accuser. :)

I know what you said, I am not going to dig through 3 months worth of posts, and then you will twist it anyway. I did that once before. now, also as before, all you have to do is simply say " I am not sinless and perfect ", and then I will stand corrected. I will do an apology thread. I will admit that I made a mistake. but, you gotta say it, or I stand by my earlier post.

I will say it - I am not sinless and perfect. what say you??
 
Nope they must be understood in context. You must determine if God is speaking to believers or unbelievers to determine the basic context.

Speaking blasphemy against the Holy Spirit can only be done by unbelievers not believers.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
100 people can put their 'like' on it, but it's still wrong.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 3748: ὅστις

ὅστις, ἥτις, , τί (separated by a hypodiastole (comma), to distinguish it from ὅτι; but LTTr write τί, without a hypodiastole (cf.Tdf. Prolog., p. 111), leaving a little space between and τί; (WHὅτι); cf. Winers Grammar, 46 (45f); (Lipsius, Gramm. Untersuch., p. 118f;WH. Introductory § 411)), genitive ὁυτινος (but of the oblique cases only the accusative neuter , τί and the genitive ὅτου, in the phraseἕωςὅτου, are found in the N. T.) (from Homer down), compound ofὅς and τίς, hence, properly, anyone who; i. e.:

Anyone who intentionally blasphemes the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven at all.
It seems the irony here is that you're ''Building upon a lie''.:)
 
Last edited:
We are talking about you and your refusal to set the record straight about your claim that others were bearing false witness against you personally.

Well you don't have to look too hard, just look above your post at post #95---->>>>
No, the Holy Spirit in us recoils at your continuous attempts to malign the gospel of the grace of Christ and to slander those that stand up for the true gospel....

These types of railings, slander, hatred and false accusations against me have been ongoing ever since I've been posting in these forums. So proof is not hard to find. :)