Trumps Stands for Religious Freedom

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At least they can't call trump stupid like they did Reagan.
 
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Trump will definitely not stand for your religious freedom if you are Muslim.

so what makes anyone think he will do so for any other belief?
((unless of course, your religion is mammon))

and if he would treat one religion differently than another, he is not being American - that is expressly against the constitution - he is being a demagogue.

i'm sticking with the "
he's feeding evangelicals another BS line just to buy their votes" theory.

he's counting on us being naive, and on us hating Clinton enough to vote for literally anyone with an R next to their name in november.

for a lot of you -- that seems to be working, on both counts.



Quote "Trump will definitely not stand for your religious freedom if you are Muslim. "

Where did he say that?

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he's counting on us being naive, and on us hating Clinton enough to vote for literally anyone with an R next to their name in november."

Here's a novel idea,elect him and if he is a faker kick his round behind out of office in four years!!!! Simple as apple pie. We had 8yrs of Obama. Its either 4yrs of the same or give this guy a go at it. If he's no good show him the door. Which is what should have been done to Obama after four years but Christians sat on their round behinds and wouldn't elect Romney because he couldn't walk on water.Christians want to sit back and criticize but not one of them wants to do a thing about it. You want a born again Christian in the WH RUN FOR OFFICE!!! Otherwise you take the hand you're dealt and put someone in office. Im tired of hearing people complain about the gov't while they sit and do nothing. Be the change you want or dont complain when the country goes to hell.

 

posthuman

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well im sure hes not a commited christian but I am sure hes more christan than Obama and Hillary.. I dont have high hopes but some hopes that he will go against LGBT and all those other major issues in the US.
i don't believe a single word he says, and i trust a person who admits thy are not a believer far more than i trust someone who transparently pretends to be one just to gain power.
there's probably more reason to believe Obama is walking by faith than Trump. probably a lot more.

this is really a whole other topic, not about religious freedom - but i don't get how you, as a woman, are seriously supporting a pattern liar who brags about how great it is to be rich and famous, because you get to sexually assault strangers. that is not normal behavior - anyone who tells you 'all men joke around like this' is lying. he's a multiple divorcee liar that owns strip clubs and treats women like meat. he thinks Christianity amounts to "eating a little cracker and drinking a sip of wine" at least once in your life. he's not against abortion and he's not against gay rights -- how can anyone pretend that voting for him is a "Christian" thing to do?

the only thing he has going for him is that he's the republican party ticket. so if you equate believing in Jesus Christ with being a republican - at least, having some nominal association with the republican party - i guess that's a reason. but i think that's complete baloney too, just propaganda and vote-buying.

but it works. thousands and thousands of 'christians' are lined up to vote for him. IMHO they are naive and shutting their eyes, voting along party lines and voting out of a hatred for the other candidate that's been drummed up by the fox news they all watch religiously.

i'm not trying to pick at you Demi -- this whole thing makes me sick to my stomach to watch go down. the one thing i appreciate is how God has stripped away the pretexts of "i'm voting R because abortion" or "i'm voting R because traditional marriage" -- so the people who call themselves believers and are still voting for this man are clearly doign it for reasons that have nothing to do with the gospel and everything to do with partisanship, or with being deceived by slick salesmen saying the right things to close a deal.

it's "
the art of the deal" here: make the buyer believe they're getting whatever it is they hope for, no matter whether the product you're slinging actually bears any resemblance at all to what they really want.
 

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i don't believe a single word he says, and i trust a person who admits thy are not a believer far more than i trust someone who transparently pretends to be one just to gain power.
there's probably more reason to believe Obama is walking by faith than Trump. probably a lot more.

this is really a whole other topic, not about religious freedom - but i don't get how you, as a woman, are seriously supporting a pattern liar who brags about how great it is to be rich and famous, because you get to sexually assault strangers. that is not normal behavior - anyone who tells you 'all men joke around like this' is lying. he's a multiple divorcee liar that owns strip clubs and treats women like meat. he thinks Christianity amounts to "eating a little cracker and drinking a sip of wine" at least once in your life. he's not against abortion and he's not against gay rights -- how can anyone pretend that voting for him is a "Christian" thing to do?

the only thing he has going for him is that he's the republican party ticket. so if you equate believing in Jesus Christ with being a republican - at least, having some nominal association with the republican party - i guess that's a reason. but i think that's complete baloney too, just propaganda and vote-buying.

but it works. thousands and thousands of 'christians' are lined up to vote for him. IMHO they are naive and shutting their eyes, voting along party lines and voting out of a hatred for the other candidate that's been drummed up by the fox news they all watch religiously.

i'm not trying to pick at you Demi -- this whole thing makes me sick to my stomach to watch go down. the one thing i appreciate is how God has stripped away the pretexts of "i'm voting R because abortion" or "i'm voting R because traditional marriage" -- so the people who call themselves believers and are still voting for this man are clearly doign it for reasons that have nothing to do with the gospel and everything to do with partisanship, or with being deceived by slick salesmen saying the right things to close a deal.

it's "
the art of the deal" here: make the buyer believe they're getting whatever it is they hope for, no matter whether the product you're slinging actually bears any resemblance at all to what they really want.

well Ill rather endorse someone who says it the way he sees it the way trump does, than to endorse a psychopathic cold murderous liar like Hillary. Men generally (maybe with a few exceptions) make jokes like that. In the high society its normal to flirt and kiss woman. And if shes gonna let you smooch her she most likely wont mind more. In the end though he didnt force her to anything. He could have raped her yet he stopped. He most likely embarrassed himself with his statements that he made on that hot mirc..as he stated there was no way he could get to her.
Trump is a typical buisness guy.
Every politican lies, yet I believe that he lies less than Hillary because she even lies about lying and lies about that too.
Like said I as a woman will say that I am more pro Trump. But would I let him touch me? Hell no I would end up castrating him.
I know your not picking on me. I am not holding anything you say against you. All good brother. We dont have to agree with everything.
 
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how can anyone pretend that voting for him is a "Christian" thing to do?
I don't think anyone can pretend they have an option to vote a Christian ballot. Given that is the fact, do you want Hillary answering the phone at 2 a.m. with access to the launch codes or Trump? Choose carefully.
 
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And Hillary has already gotten away with it... probably many more times than we know about, considering how many people who stood in the Clintons' way died suddenly and mysteriously.
I used to think accusations like this were truths before, but I'm no longer sure. Why don't you produce some evidence? I'm getting doubtful about this.
 
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posthuman

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Quote "Trump will definitely not stand for your religious freedom if you are Muslim. "

Where did he say that?


right here, for example:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-election-2016/

come on Kayla. what do you think requiring holocaust-style badges, and banning entry into the country based on religion is?



Here's a novel idea,elect him and if he is a faker kick his round behind out of office in four years!!!! Simple as apple pie.

oh so now you're in the "
let's just elect him and find out later what a terrible idea it was" camp?
it's ironic how this is the best argument people have for him these days.
remember when you were mad about "
pass the bill before you can see what's in it" ?
let's just go ahead and drink this bottle marked "
poison" and if we really do get sick, don't worry, we can call the ambulance. go ahead and set the drapes ablaze, the fire department is only a phone call away, right?


i'm not voting for either one of these people.
suggesting that doing so is the "
christian thing to do" in any way shape or form is unconscionable.
 

posthuman

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I don't think anyone can pretend they have an option to vote a Christian ballot. Given that is the fact, do you want Hillary answering the phone at 2 a.m. with access to the launch codes or Trump? Choose carefully.
have you seen the tweets Trump makes at 2am?
 
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trump wasn't just speaking hypothetically...it was very clear that he was speaking about things he actually -did-

so trump and bill clinton are both on the same level as far as sexual perversion is concerned...

was it now

and you were there 11 years ago?

it's clear you were not

let's pretend you did not say that :rolleyes:
 

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I used to think accusations like this were truths before, but I'm no longer sure. Why don't you produce some evidence? I'm getting doubtful about this.
"It was a spontaneous uprising caused by a you tube video insulting Islam.....psss, hey Chelsea, it was a planned coordinated terrorist attack".
 
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"It was a spontaneous uprising caused by a you tube video insulting Islam.....psss, hey Chelsea, it was a planned coordinated terrorist attack".
Where's that "went over my head" meme you promised me?:p
 

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and vice-versa.
the best argument -- really the only argument -- to vote for either one is to keep the other out of office.

what a mess!!

i'm probably writing in Bernie Sanders.
because i'm not going to use my vote to lie, and i want my conscience to be clear.
he was the only honest man that ran, who genuinely cared about what he said he stood for.
 
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and vice-versa.
the best argument -- really the only argument -- to vote for either one is to keep the other out of office.

what a mess!!

i'm probably writing in Bernie Sanders.
because i'm not going to use my vote to lie, and i want my conscience to be clear.
he was the only honest man that ran, who genuinely cared about what he said he stood for.
But post, if you flip the captions you get the same argument no?
 

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and vice-versa.
the best argument -- r
eally the only argument -- to vote for either one is to keep the other out of office.

what a mess!!

i'm probably writing in Bernie Sanders.
because i'm not going to use my vote to lie, and i want my conscience to be clear.
he was the only honest man that ran, who genuinely cared about what he said he stood for.

Duuh theyre the only choices we got! Bernie endorsed Hillary.. great choice
 

posthuman

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But post, if you flip the captions you get the same argument no?

that's what i said. vice versa.
i just didn't want to spend more than 30 seconds looking for the reverse meme :p

but here you go, bro -- since you asked :)


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and vice-versa.
the best argument -- really the only argument -- to vote for either one is to keep the other out of office.

what a mess!!

i'm probably writing in Bernie Sanders.
because i'm not going to use my vote to lie, and i want my conscience to be clear.
he was the only honest man that ran, who genuinely cared about what he said he stood for.
one has a business degree the other is an attorney.