Trumps Stands for Religious Freedom

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Sirk

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It's been said that if the world just left Christians alone they would turn inward and devour themselves. I believe that to be a true statement.
 

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I hear what you're saying but I don't just accept anyone to be my accountability partner. I gotta know you and like you before I'll let you speak into my life. Life makes a man the man he will ultimately be in the end anyway.
When you're a public figure, more is expected out of you. Your public figure isn't the same as you or me. That's why when questionable actions constantly arise, whether it's from the past or currently in the present, the average Joe just doesn't sit back and act like all is okay. Because if all the Joe's did that, the public figure goes on in life thinking there is no limits on actions. Also, your last statement kinda goes in hand how I said earlier God changes a person by using other people. Those other people confront said person. People sometimes go into a treatment setting through intervention. Intervention is confronting someone about the addiction or problem that has been happening.

A parent sees bad behavior of his/her child, and he/she goes and says said actions of the child aren't ok. We don't just sit back and accept behaviors. That's the underlying statement in all of this. From me, anyways.
 
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Sirk

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When you're a public figure, more is expected out of you. Your public figure isn't the same as you or me. That's why when questionable actions constantly arise, whether it's from the past or currently in the present, the average Joe just doesn't sit back and act like all is okay. Because if all the Joe's did that, the public figure goes on in life thinking there is no limits on actions. Also, your last statement kinda goes in hand how I said earlier God changes a person by using other people. Those other people confront said person.
Is it fair or realistic to hold anyone to a higher standard than you hold yourself?
 

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Is it fair or realistic to hold anyone to a higher standard than you hold yourself?
The standard is to lower the "yeah, but" connotation on all of us. Not to accept or rationalize certain behaviors. Already said my point and made it known throughout. You said you heard what I'm saying. So, that means there's not much to say on my end now. That means I'm out.
 

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The standard is to lower the "yeah, but" connotation on all of us. Not to accept or rationalize certain behaviors. Already said my point and made it known throughout. You said you heard what I'm saying. So, that means there's not much to say on my end now. That means I'm out.
Well thanks for answering my question I guess. Catch you on the flip.
 

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We all know what Hillary is like, but this is about Trump. He's a womanizer, and I find it strange that some women in fact are defending him. It makes me disappointed.
Im actually surprised this tatic has worked so well. Like yeah, Trump can be a little lewd. Hilary has done and supports terrible things, but the media has successfully made people believe that Trump hates women and is going to take away their rights because he can be a little lewd sometimes.

Im more worried about the issues were dealing with, and how the candidates will deal with them more than I am about their personal life. Trump can be a little lewd, but that has nothing to do with running the country. Pretty sure Clinton wasnt a saint, but everyone seems to believe he was one of the best presidents we ever had.
 

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Its arguments like this that make me want to vote for Trump : p
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Another persons sins does not remove the sins of the first person.

If someone robs you
and you rob someone else
should the one robbing you go free?
Of course not

Just because the other candidates are far from angels it doesn't mean that Trump is behaving OK

I don't think either of them are fit to lead a nation, but i fear Trump the most, as he is extremely trigger happy, and I can easily imagine him starting WW3
Hilary has stated that if we even think Russia has cyber-attacked us, we would go to war with them.

Last I heard, Trump said he wanted to work on the relations between Russia and the United States.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Trump says that he has never ask God for forgiveness nor repented for his sins. Questions? Is Trump saved or not saved?
Not every Christian is voting for Trump because they think hes a Christian.

Im not sure why that seems to be what those who oppose him believe, apparently they think we cant think for ourselves.

Does anyone really believe that true and serious Christian has a chance to be elected in this nation? Someone who, if asked about gay rights, would not be supportive of it? He would be called a bigot from the start, and all the young people would be lead to believe hed make them all wear uniforms and walk in line 24/7.

Theres two candidates, they both have different ideas, and we elect the one we think will be better for the nation. Thats all this is : p
 

Sirk

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Every president since Roosevelt has had girlfriends on the side. It's a little late to start worrying about electing a virgin to the Oval Office.
 
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Yep,we are electing a secular president,not a church overseer.

A wolf whistle is no big deal for an unsaved man.

In the other dugout,how many humanoids did bill and hill assassinate?
 
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kaylagrl

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Every president since Roosevelt has had girlfriends on the side. It's a little late to start worrying about electing a virgin to the Oval Office.

I wasn't living in the US when Clinton was president. But during the time he was saying he was innocent and then found guilty I attended a Christian convention in the south. We talked to various people because of course everyone was talking about it. And everyone said, "well what he does in his private life doesn't matter, as long as he's capable of running the country". I heard it over and over from Christians. Why? Well the economy was doing well, the world was relatively safe, people had jobs.If Trump got in and jobs were restored, the economy recovered, ISIS was on the run and boarders were secured you'd never hear a peep from Christians. They wont admit it,but its true.

Im not voting for Trump because he's a Sunday school teacher, never thought he was. Im voting based on the Repub. platform and the issues. Im willing to give him four years to show me what he can do. But I sure dont expect him to walk on water. There was a slew of people running on the Repub. side, so where were the delegates? Trump won, thats what we have. All candidates try to get the Christian vote. All of a sudden Hillary is remembering with fondness her Methodist upbringing. Give me a break. It is what it is. Now go vote!
 
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Yep,we are electing a secular president,not a church overseer. A wolf whistle is no big deal for an unsaved man. In the other dugout,how many humanoids did bill and hill assassinate?
and no more executive orders would be super.
 
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kaylagrl

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Yep,we are electing a secular president,not a church overseer.

A wolf whistle is no big deal for an unsaved man.

In the other dugout,how many humanoids did bill and hill assassinate?


I asked someone on FB if I could copy and share this, he said I could. For the voters consideration:


"If you're under 50 you really need to read this. If you’re over 50, you lived through it, so share it with those under 50. Amazing to me how much I had forgotten!
When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over a health ca
re reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn’t even get a vote in a democratic controlled congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost for studies, promotion, and other efforts.
Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood – both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as “my worst mistake.” Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.
Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovery of Ms. Guanier’s radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.
Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.
Many younger votes will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours.
Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House.
Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.
Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were:
She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones.
She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor.
After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.
Hillary’s game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.
Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while under oath.
After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had stolen.
Now we are exposed to the destruction of possibly incriminating emails while Hillary was Secretary of State and the “pay to play” schemes of the Clinton Foundation – we have no idea what shoe will fall next.
But to her loyal fans (supporters) - I guess in her own words “what difference does it make?” I guess being a female Democrat is all that matters. By the way, I'd post the same if she were a Republican. You see, she's already been in the White House, she has a record we can review.
Hillary for prison 2016 would be a good start to help make America safe again."
 
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ladylynn

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​This was on youtube about Hillary and her many lies all detailed one after the other for comparison. I'm surprised no one has posted it. Who can remember allllll the stuff that has gone on in one person's life all at once. It's seems to be an insurmountable task. So finding this on line was especially news worthy. I hope you guys enjoy it as much as I have been this afternoon. I don't usually post this sort of stuff but with the bias going on it just seemed a shame to pass up the opportunity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-xjiXfJ58Q



 
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- In 2012 on 9/11 four Americans died in Benghazi due to a lack of even 1 individual ordered to support and extract them from American soil in an embassy under attack by radical muslims from Sec. of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

- In 2016 on 9/11 Hillary Clinton got a little overheated at a memorial service and had 16+ individuals extract her to "safety" in under 2 minutes.
 
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We all know what Hillary is like, but this is about Trump. He's a womanizer, and I find it strange that some women in fact are defending him. It makes me disappointed.
very,VERY well said.
 
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Every president since Roosevelt has had girlfriends on the side. It's a little late to start worrying about electing a virgin to the Oval Office.
I see your point, but I'm not sure every one had girlfriends on the side...


If we wanted a virgin we should elect a priest :p
 
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Im actually surprised this tatic has worked so well. Like yeah, Trump can be a little lewd. Hilary has done and supports terrible things, but the media has successfully made people believe that Trump hates women and is going to take away their rights because he can be a little lewd sometimes.

Im more worried about the issues were dealing with, and how the candidates will deal with them more than I am about their personal life. Trump can be a little lewd, but that has nothing to do with running the country. Pretty sure Clinton wasnt a saint, but everyone seems to believe he was one of the best presidents we ever had.
Are you biased?

Of course you're not,right?
 

Sirk

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Funny that biases poster child is asking if someone is biased.