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The OP hasn't been back.. So why did the conversation go from his question to this current topic?
To answer the current discussion, isn't it lusting and fantasizing over someone? Someone doesn't do it just as a way for something to do. It's for an end result. A release of dopamine. A pleasure. Just like two people don't need to actually "do it" to have sex, yet that's still considered a sin. Is it not? Calling something a sin is not judging a person. I don't know where folks are getting this connotation from. And yes, I'm speaking from experience. There's also research and plenty of books on what it can do to the brain, too, since it is a form of pleasure and way to release dopamine.
To answer the current discussion, isn't it lusting and fantasizing over someone? Someone doesn't do it just as a way for something to do. It's for an end result. A release of dopamine. A pleasure. Just like two people don't need to actually "do it" to have sex, yet that's still considered a sin. Is it not? Calling something a sin is not judging a person. I don't know where folks are getting this connotation from. And yes, I'm speaking from experience. There's also research and plenty of books on what it can do to the brain, too, since it is a form of pleasure and way to release dopamine.
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You know God created us to have sexual desires and it's completely normal for people in a marriage to want a healthy sex life, but what troubles me is going to multiple people to increase their desire within their marriage rather than trying to find the answer within themselves and fix the root issue. Turning to other people is never the answer for any type of situation whether it be a personal one or relationship and friendships are tied into that one as well. There is a trust and sanctity within all relationships that once you turn to someone else to fulfill any sort of desire you are headed down a long path that only God can deliver you from and by sheer miracle that said person would forgive you.
Friendships for example are between two people even though you may have mutual friends. When you have a problem with one you don't go to another and talk about the problem and go to the root person and find a solution together, it's a thing called communication and we all have issues with that
Friendships for example are between two people even though you may have mutual friends. When you have a problem with one you don't go to another and talk about the problem and go to the root person and find a solution together, it's a thing called communication and we all have issues with that
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Graphic conversations are needed in the Body of Christ, it was one of the reasons why we have lost so many battles...we ahve not nor will never lose the war, but the battle for Sex should start and end in the church and the loudest voice about SEX on the planet should be the church....
The Song of Solomon is enough to make anyone blush, but religion has made it out to be a about How the church should love Jesus and that dog won't hunt...
The Song of Solomon is enough to make anyone blush, but religion has made it out to be a about How the church should love Jesus and that dog won't hunt...
People seem to miss the part in the bible where when God was done creating his PHYSICAL creation that He said it was very good. Apparently it was actually bad and we are supposed to walk around as these spiritual beings who have no desires or wants or needs. I need to go take a poop now.....it's kinda sinful to poop even tho I can't help it. Lol
All-knowing Utah, thank you for your your wisdom. It's good to know that there are people out there who know the sexual actions of every person who ever lived. I aspire to liken myself into you some day, so that I can also preach to teenagers that it's alright to commit premarital sexual acts, as long as they ask for forgiveness afterwards, and that they need not bother trying to resist the devil because it's impossible.
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After reading your post multiple times, I think I can agree that the church should have a voice in sexual matters. However, I think conversations on a Christian site about swapping partners and other assorted topics are, honestly, the kind of things where "if you need to ask the question, you already know the answer" and they set off an alarm to me that says someone is asking to 1) troll the snot out of people or 2) person has already made up their mind and needs external validation so they can justify to themselves their bad behavior.
Why the topic shifted and now folks are talking about masturbating...I just don't understand. The things some people choose to take up arms about or choose to have strong feelings about. Mind boggling.
Why the topic shifted and now folks are talking about masturbating...I just don't understand. The things some people choose to take up arms about or choose to have strong feelings about. Mind boggling.
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