If God is loving then why?

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WoundedGemini

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So I am dealing with some major problems. First off my view of God is becoming more and more negative because of one major issue that I do not understand. If God is really a loving God why does He condemn homosexuals and everyone in the LGBT. Let me explain what has brought me to this point. So for several years I have been struggling with who i am as a person. I do not believe I'm good enough, never felt as though I measured up. Also along with this I've been dealing with issues relating to my gender. I've never been a normal boy and for several years have struggled with my gender. I try very hard to drown it out by gaming (we are talking obsessively). However recently I can no longer push it aside and I feel alot of times that I want to be female. However according to what I was taught transgenders go to hell. How can God be loving if

#1 He condemns people for a tendency which they can only partially help

#2 He gives someone something this hard to deal with, something that makes people even suicide over it. How come we must deal with arguably one of the worst issues. God is supposed to be a just God, why then did He allow this to happen to us. Why were we the "special" ones.

I have a friend who is lesbian and I've talked with her and she has never been attracted to boys. I do not believe any more that being gay/lesbian/trans is fully a choice. It may be an ultimate choice in the final decision but the tendency and feelings are in no way a choice.

So my question is how can God be looked at as merciful and loving if He condemns people like this. Also I'm sorry but Christians completely downplay this whole issue. I firmly believe until you have gone through this same problem you do not fully understand the amount of pain, stress, guilt, tension and war that goes on inside us every day. They say "oh it's a choice it can be helped" "just ask for forgiveness". Are you kidding me?! What kind of advice is that for someone who has cut over this issue (yes I've cut a few times over this). I mean comon it's easy for you to say, but if you were me you would see it in a different light. Please you need to understand this is a MAJOR problem, not something made up or something easily fixed.

I'm sorry if any of this is a bit controversial. Please all I ask is that everyone try to be nice and understanding in the comments. I'm worried I'm at a crossroads and one of three scenarios will play out.

#1 I will accept myself as a guy and stay a Christian

#2 I will accept myself as trans and stay a Christian and find love from God even though I'm different.

#3 I will accept myself as trans and reject God because of His condemnation of those like me.

Please I really need some help here I'm scared and this whole thing is making me really emotional. I do not know how much longer I can deal with this.
 

Demi777

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God doesnt give us Stress. God doesnt make LGBT people.
Stop blaming God for your choices.
God wants to take burden and sin from us but he will only do that if we commit it to him and allow him to.
Your serving the enemy (Satan) with living in the world and now walking in the spirit.
Turn to God and let him free you. Just you gota be ready to give it ALL up.
Matthew 11:28-30
[FONT=&quot]28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.[/FONT]
 
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WoundedGemini

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While I agree with some of what you are saying and yes Satan is the one here to destory and kill. However you do not understand the magnitude of the issue here and you seem to not care at all about how the whole thing is impacting me. You are simplifying things far too much. I never said I was created this way but I have a tendency. The Bible even says God will not give us something we can't handle. Doesn't seem like that to me considering I've been a Christian for 14 years and I've cut over this. But you could care less about that, you just care that I'm lying to myself. I want help here but just telling me oh I'm lying to myself isn't helping. This is the problem now no one ever tries to understand they just throw out a simple solution
 
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WoundedGemini

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Also I never ever wanted this! I wanted to be normal.......
 

Demi777

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While I agree with some of what you are saying and yes Satan is the one here to destory and kill. However you do not understand the magnitude of the issue here and you seem to not care at all about how the whole thing is impacting me. You are simplifying things far too much. I never said I was created this way but I have a tendency. The Bible even says God will not give us something we can't handle. Doesn't seem like that to me considering I've been a Christian for 14 years and I've cut over this. But you could care less about that, you just care that I'm lying to myself. I want help here but just telling me oh I'm lying to myself isn't helping. This is the problem now no one ever tries to understand they just throw out a simple solution
Ive cut myself,ive hung myself,ive tried to poison myself until I came to God and I never even wanted to anymore ever since.
God is a simple God. He doesnt make tings a labyrinth.
Go to God and to a deliverance minister, or even check out good prayers in the internet. Its not impossible to get set free.
Now to you thinking I dont care..I do care. If I wouldnt care I wouldnt be answering your post in the first place. I know the struggle and I also know how able God is.
We cannot be gay and Christian, nor can we be trans and Christian. Christian is what God accepts, not a title because you believe in him. Theres bunches of good ministers out there like Derek Prince,John Eckardt, Walter Veith
Try to dig into the root of your problems and find where they started and give it to God.
God forgive me for.... Jesus I commit ......to you
 
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WoundedGemini

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Thank you I appreciate this. This is alot more detailed and I'm sorry I said you didn't care. I just feel like there isnt alot of hope left for me and I will never be truly happy. I will look into getting some help but it's not going to be an easy process. Like Ive said I do believe in God and gave my heart to Jesus when I was 5 but since age 14 I've been straying further away
 
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Yes God is love but he is also a holy judge. He condemns people because of his holy nature & will not allow sin to go unpunished. Which why he tells us many times to pray & repent. Homosexuality is not of God. God design for mankind is only to be between a man and a woman. I honestly believe homosexuality is contributed to demonic spirits that influences an individual at an early age. You should ask God to deliver you & rebuke any demonic spirits in your life, including spirits of homosexuality. I hope you will choose #1.
 
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missy2014

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Thank you I appreciate this. This is alot more detailed and I'm sorry I said you didn't care. I just feel like there isnt alot of hope left for me and I will never be truly happy. I will look into getting some help but it's not going to be an easy process. Like Ive said I do believe in God and gave my heart to Jesus when I was 5 but since age 14 I've been straying further away
Soften you heart come to him his love will definitely change ASLONG as you open your hear deeply to the lord let it melt like wax before the Lord . IF you want and need be ask the Lord to teach about Hell and your deepest need to repent be forgive, healed delivered restored and most importantly IN love with him. How can the Lord help you if you dont come to him just come Father loves you very much He wants you hes been crying for you and with you HE IS GOD if you really want to know him
then do I know my wonderful God has emotions I picture the lord crying weeping loudly and deeply for us his children that I how I think about the Lord he is doing the same for you in deep pain he knows you and he wants his child close to him.Please know he is a lovely saviour soften your heart you dont want to hurt him.
Love him he is the way and the way is open for you if you just humbly come soften your heart.
 
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WoundedGemini

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For me personally I'm not dealing with homosexuality. I forgot to mention that. Just transgender tendency's
 

Demi777

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Thank you I appreciate this. This is alot more detailed and I'm sorry I said you didn't care. I just feel like there isnt alot of hope left for me and I will never be truly happy. I will look into getting some help but it's not going to be an easy process. Like Ive said I do believe in God and gave my heart to Jesus when I was 5 but since age 14 I've been straying further away
The problem is that God is simple but we arent. Its harder for us to do something simple than to do something thats complex. and its harder to keep doing something simple too. Im sorry if I came across cold but its not me..im not tryint to be cold..just trying not to be overly emotional.
Ive struggled with a lot myself (like a few things ive stated) and abuse. I know how things make you turn and run into things subconsciously to make u feel better tho it only end up making things worse if you give into it.
Like said.. see if you can find a good deliverance minister (or someone who has a gift of praying). What helped me was writing every sin i coud remember on a paper and when I was sitting there with 2 people I would ask forgivenes for every single thing and the people were praying over me.
Teen years are the hardest. Hearts get broken, contacts disappear,pressure of the World jams in.. yeah
Try making a routine with God or so that u start spending nore time with him regularly. I tend to pray psalms and stuff b4 I leave the house or while cooking etc... figure out whats your thing.. worship...
Perhaps even fast a few days
 
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missy2014

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Love you sibling love you friend just wnat to see you restored . I tried to kill myself i had a lesbian evil spirit in me for a month
BUT GOD NEVER GIVES UP ON US ! HE LOves me HE SET ME FREE. worship him and you will gain this spiritual understanding
we are talking about. Youre resisting God dont resist God he loves you so much youre his precious child! Its ok its gonna be ok trust him.
 
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missy2014

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brother God loves you just dont give up
 
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missy2014

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If we repent then we believe in God in the mighty Lord God he knows you hes seen all youve done
but he wants you back he loves you. Come to Jesus . dont give up on him. God has you hes reaching out mightly to you
dont worry just be gentle still before him in his presence you are his everything he owns. were expecting you to come to him
love him and he will show you his love evenmore. God bless you God loves repent and God will pick you
dont worry about the process he will do it if you humbly gently come to him
 
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missy2014

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brother youre hurting God please repent jsut do it he loves you hes got you
 
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missy2014

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God bless you i trust for you his love can melt your heart BE SAVED IN JESUS NAME God save him! Please!
rebuke the enemy God God please save our bro hes yours we place him in your hands Lord Jesus
sweet love of God be showed to him come to him come into him lord into his spirit his mind his soul everypart
Jesus save him Bless you God you love this son so much you gave the prodigal son a robe you gave yourself for him
and Father take him back ooooh Lord God your love is sweet MIGHTY GOD save and reedem this lost soul in THE NAME OF JESUS! N! NOW! in Jesus name he is saved . come to him brother and youll be his.
 
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missy2014

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JESUS IS LORD! thankyou Lord for saving this soul the love of God to heal all those broken pieces and the terrible experiences that were done to him , imm raise him up Lord for your glory HES YOURS God HES YOURS! thankyou lord

his home is to be with you amen all the praise glory and honor given to you LORD KING JESUS
God's great mercy be with you forever love you bro God kiss your forehead he loves you so much youre not a waste
a waste of space he knows your heart humbly come to him and help you with anything. LORD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU !
 
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kaylagrl

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Yes God is love but he is also a holy judge. He condemns people because of his holy nature & will not allow sin to go unpunished. Which why he tells us many times to pray & repent. Homosexuality is not of God. God design for mankind is only to be between a man and a woman. I honestly believe homosexuality is contributed to demonic spirits that influences an individual at an early age. You should ask God to deliver you & rebuke any demonic spirits in your life, including spirits of homosexuality. I hope you will choose #1.

Quote "He condemns people..."

Not really,no. God wants all people to go to heaven. Its our own choices that condemn us from going to be with Him.
 
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Molly12345

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Yes God is love but he is also a holy judge. He condemns people because of his holy nature & will not allow sin to go unpunished. Which why he tells us many times to pray & repent. Homosexuality is not of God. God design for mankind is only to be between a man and a woman. I honestly believe homosexuality is contributed to demonic spirits that influences an individual at an early age. You should ask God to deliver you & rebuke any demonic spirits in your life, including spirits of homosexuality. I hope you will choose #1.
Amen I strongly agree
 
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kaylagrl

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So I am dealing with some major problems. First off my view of God is becoming more and more negative because of one major issue that I do not understand. If God is really a loving God why does He condemn homosexuals and everyone in the LGBT. Let me explain what has brought me to this point. So for several years I have been struggling with who i am as a person. I do not believe I'm good enough, never felt as though I measured up. Also along with this I've been dealing with issues relating to my gender. I've never been a normal boy and for several years have struggled with my gender. I try very hard to drown it out by gaming (we are talking obsessively). However recently I can no longer push it aside and I feel alot of times that I want to be female. However according to what I was taught transgenders go to hell. How can God be loving if

#1 He condemns people for a tendency which they can only partially help

#2 He gives someone something this hard to deal with, something that makes people even suicide over it. How come we must deal with arguably one of the worst issues. God is supposed to be a just God, why then did He allow this to happen to us. Why were we the "special" ones.

I have a friend who is lesbian and I've talked with her and she has never been attracted to boys. I do not believe any more that being gay/lesbian/trans is fully a choice. It may be an ultimate choice in the final decision but the tendency and feelings are in no way a choice.

So my question is how can God be looked at as merciful and loving if He condemns people like this. Also I'm sorry but Christians completely downplay this whole issue. I firmly believe until you have gone through this same problem you do not fully understand the amount of pain, stress, guilt, tension and war that goes on inside us every day. They say "oh it's a choice it can be helped" "just ask for forgiveness". Are you kidding me?! What kind of advice is that for someone who has cut over this issue (yes I've cut a few times over this). I mean comon it's easy for you to say, but if you were me you would see it in a different light. Please you need to understand this is a MAJOR problem, not something made up or something easily fixed.

I'm sorry if any of this is a bit controversial. Please all I ask is that everyone try to be nice and understanding in the comments. I'm worried I'm at a crossroads and one of three scenarios will play out.

#1 I will accept myself as a guy and stay a Christian

#2 I will accept myself as trans and stay a Christian and find love from God even though I'm different.

#3 I will accept myself as trans and reject God because of His condemnation of those like me.

Please I really need some help here I'm scared and this whole thing is making me really emotional. I do not know how much longer I can deal with this.

Quote " I do not believe I'm good enough"

Do you mean as a Christian or just in general?


Quote "How can God be loving if #1 He condemns people for a tendency which they can only partially help"

We all have the nature to sin and we all struggle with it. Some are alcoholics, some are drug addicts, some are addicted to sex or lying. We all struggle against our sin nature. And we have to choose if we are going to follow God or satan. God doesn't condemn us, we choose who we serve.

Quote "#2 He gives someone something this hard to deal with, something that makes people even suicide over it. How come we must deal with arguably one of the worst issues. God is supposed to be a just God, why then did He allow this to happen to us. Why were we the "special" ones."

Im sorry but you have wrong thinking. God didn't give you this, this is satan trying to destroy you because thats his job. God has loving limits and if we disobey there are consequences. Like your parent will tell you something and you think they are just being mean and then you find out they were trying to protect you all along. Thats God.

Quote "I have a friend who is lesbian and I've talked with her and she has never been attracted to boys. I do not believe any more that being gay/lesbian/trans is fully a choice. It may be an ultimate choice in the final decision but the tendency and feelings are in no way a choice.

You are talking to the wrong person, they aren't going to influence you to do what is right and what God wants you to do. It is a choice. Sin is always a choice. And the further down the road we go the harder it is to do the right thing. God wouldn't give you a desire for something and then condemn you for doing it. Your desire isn't of God and satan is leading you down a very dangerous path.

Quote "I firmly believe until you have gone through this same problem you do not fully understand the amount of pain, stress, guilt, tension and war that goes on inside us every day. "

I had a friend who has passed away but he was a Christian and an alcoholic. He fought it all of his life. If there was any stress,he ran a restaurant in town,he would go and get drunk. Everyone in town respected him and no one knew his secret. But he was a good friend of my fathers. His wife would call and my father would go to the city and bring him home. He would cry and feel so bad. He struggled the same as you are struggling but God would get him back on his feet again. Yes, we fail,but we dont give up. Sin is a struggle for all of us. But Jesus is the answer.


Quote "What kind of advice is that for someone who has cut over this issue (yes I've cut a few times over this)"

Is there anything that has happened in your past that was traumatizing? Is there any other reason you are cutting other than this issue? Do you have a trusted Christian friend,youth leader,pastor you could talk to? God doesn't want this for your life. He has a better path for you. And satan is fighting to win your soul. Dont give in. The path you are thinking of taking will only lead to destruction,guilt,pain and unhappiness. Please find a Christian you can trust and ask them to help pray you though. God only wants good for your life but you have to trust that He knows what you need over what you want. The struggle you are facing is called conviction,in your heart you know its not the right path to follow. I hope you can find someone trust and pray this through. God has a plan for your life, dont let satan rob you of it. Blessings.
 

blue_ladybug

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God doesn't make LGBT babies. God doesn't "turn" them that way. Like Kayla said, God does not condemn us, OUR actions do. God HATES the sin of the LGBT lifestyle, but he does NOT hate the sinner. 'Nuff said..