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JaumeJ

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Does there seem to be an international fascist movement underway disguised as democracy?

Does this bring to mind the prophecies of the end times?

It seems in upcoming elections in various countries , depending on who wins, the future right to vote may be a thing of the past.

I never liked politicians and I like them even less today. They act like gods but have no solutions.

Follow the Lamb of God, amen.
 
resurrection33

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JaumeJ said:
Does there seem to be an international fascist movement underway disguised as democracy?

Does this bring to mind the prophecies of the end times?

It seems in upcoming elections in various countries , depending on who wins, the future right to vote may be a thing of the past.

I never liked politicians and I like them even less today. They act like gods but have no solutions.

Follow the Lamb of God, amen.
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I don't know if this is what you are getting at, but though I have always been a big proponent of democracy, Satan can lead the masses astray, and where does that leave us? On the other hand, is there something better than democracy?
 
Willie-T

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People trying to turn the republic of America into a democracy kind of disturbs me.
 
JaumeJ

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This is not intended to turn into a debate on whether the US is or is not the foremost model of democracy in modern times. It is simply intended to turn the attention of those who believe to what current events are in varied western countries, not to mention eastern countries.
 
JaumeJ

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Just two of the governments I have in mind ae the UK's new Theresa Mae and the Spaish government. There are many more, some in the easter countries, and many elsewhere.

Now I am not posting in regard to a preferred or not preferred form of government. My post is intended to point towards many of the prophecies of the Old and t he New Testament. Anhyone who even begins to entertain the thought that Jesus Christ hs anything to do with Caesar or Herod is not understanding the spirit of the post.

Again, no polititian is honest, and there are statistics proving this. I love Jesus Christ. He is the savior and the One to follow.

Anyone here who things a man can save people other than Jesus is not familiar with Jesus.

Follow the Lamb.

resurrection33 said:
I don't know if this is what you are getting at, but though I have always been a big proponent of democracy, Satan can lead the masses astray, and where does that leave us? On the other hand, is there something better than democracy?
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JaumeJ

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The USA has always been considered a democratic republic.......... This is not a political stance, just the truth.
 
resurrection33

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JaumeJ said:
Just two of the governments I have in mind ae the UK's new Theresa Mae and the Spaish government. There are many more, some in the easter countries, and many elsewhere.

Now I am not posting in regard to a preferred or not preferred form of government. My post is intended to point towards many of the prophecies of the Old and t he New Testament. Anhyone who even begins to entertain the thought that Jesus Christ hs anything to do with Caesar or Herod is not understanding the spirit of the post.

Again, no polititian is honest, and there are statistics proving this. I love Jesus Christ. He is the savior and the One to follow.

Anyone here who things a man can save people other than Jesus is not familiar with Jesus.

Follow the Lamb.
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I am no expert on international affairs. I will say I grow more and more disillusioned by what I see happening on the political front here in the United States. The liberals seem to be leading us in the opposite direction of our Lord. That's not to say the conservatives have their act together, either.
 
Willie-T

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Can you elaborate?
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In a "Republic", the established laws are the ruling factor.... (ie, our constitution)...... even if the majority of the population may have differing views.

In a "Democracy", the desires of the majority of the people become the "new" rules. And this can go back-and-forth every few years, depending upon who happens to be "in charge" at the time.
 
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Willie-T said:
In a "Republic", the established laws are the ruling factor.... (ie, our constitution)...... even if the majority of the population may have differing views.

In a "Democracy", the desires of the majority of the people become the "new" rules. And this can go back-and-forth every few years, depending upon who happens to be "in charge" at the time.
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Not really. Even in the US, you have different people in charge at different times (presidents), and they change, to some extent, how things are done. Even though there are rules / constitutions
 
resurrection33

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Willie-T said:
In a "Republic", the established laws are the ruling factor.... (ie, our constitution)...... even if the majority of the population may have differing views.

In a "Democracy", the desires of the majority of the people become the "new" rules. And this can go back-and-forth every few years, depending upon who happens to be "in charge" at the time.
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I never thought of it like that. It does occur to me that judges can run the country the way they want - we are supposed to have a system of checks and balances, but who is checking the judges? But then the whole country is becoming more and more immoral at an alarming rate of speed. Hillary will just make things worse, given the opportunity.
 
Willie-T

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resurrection33 said:
I never thought of it like that. It does occur to me that judges can run the country the way they want - we are supposed to have a system of checks and balances, but who is checking the judges? But then the whole country is becoming more and more immoral at an alarming rate of speed. Hillary will just make things worse, given the opportunity.
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This is why so many people are so vehemently stressing that THE MOST IMPORTANT part of the election is to get someone in office who will restore the "balance" of the Supreme Court.
 
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wwjd_kilden said:
Not really. Even in the US, you have different people in charge at different times (presidents), and they change, to some extent, how things are done. Even though there are rules / constitutions
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I am neither agreeing with you nor disagreeing, since I am no expert on political science, but one part of the problem here in the US would be the judges. They are not bound by rules or the constitution.
 
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Willie-T said:
This is why so many people are so vehemently stressing that THE MOST IMPORTANT part of the election is to get someone in office who will restore the "balance" of the Supreme Court.
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And that is why I would not vote for a Democrat for the Senate.
 
Willie-T

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resurrection33 said:
I am neither agreeing with you nor disagreeing, since I am no expert on political science, but one part of the problem here in the US would be the judges. They are not bound by rules or the constitution.
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Hence....... the very REAL necessity of keeping (AT ALL TIMES) the Supreme Court balanced. Neither party can ever be allowed to dominate the "Court of the Land."
 
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Willie-T said:
"The Current Situation" is, IMHO, a good example of the need to institute TERM LIMITS on ALL offices.
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I never really believed that until the last debate when Trump said that we needed term limits (I suppose he was referring to the Senate). It occurred to me that he was right. And now that you mention it, maybe judges need term limits, also. This Supreme Court situation is getting serious. Term limits would alleviate that pressure somewhat.
 
p_rehbein

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Term Limits are surely needed, but I doubt they will ever come to be, since the ones in Office would have to vote to enact such Limits, and i doubt they will do that........ :)

Yes, we are a Constitutional Republic, and, yes, we practice a form of Democracy. However, the Founding Fathers made sure to protect us/our Nation in various ways from the evils of a pure Democracy. One of these ways is the Electoral College. Another is the Separation of Powers, and the various ways each group is elected, and each State is represented.

A pure Democracy would lead to complete chaos. The Founding Fathers were quite wise for their time. :)
 
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