Are democrats sore losers or what?

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It's funny, we hear that 62 million Americans voted for Hillary. What we don't hear is that 47 million of them are able-bodied welfare recipients and food stampers who can work but refuse to do so. That means only 15 million Hillary voters actually work as compared to 60 million Trump voters. Puts things into perspective doesn't it.
 

Monnkai

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I actually the article said congress would have to approve it and seeing how congress is Republican now I doubt it will pass. Plus I'm sure a bill like that would take months to get ready
 

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It's funny, we hear that 62 million Americans voted for Hillary. What we don't hear is that 47 million of them are able-bodied welfare recipients and food stampers who can work but refuse to do so. That means only 15 million Hillary voters actually work as compared to 60 million Trump voters. Puts things into perspective doesn't it.
It is hard to believe that anyone wants to make welfare a career, but it is the sad truth, and even imprisonment gives street credibility in certain areas.
 
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It is hard to believe that anyone wants to make welfare a career, but it is the sad truth, and even imprisonment gives street credibility in certain areas.
One slash on the forearm for every year locked up is a code of honor for some.
 

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Democrat introducing bill to abolish Electoral College I must ask this question because Paranoia is kicking in. Would this effect Trumps election in anyway because it says within seven years
The bill would have to pass in Congress and then there is a 7 year time limit that 3/4 of the states would have to ratify before a change came into effect. I don't see this happening in my lifetime. Either way Trump would have won anyway as his campaign strategy would have been changed and his efforts would have been targeted to the heavily populated states while ignoring the insignificant sparsely populated ones.

The current Electoral College system allows for more representation of the country rather than the just imposing the will of the most populated states. This country is not a democracy where the majority always rules but is inclusive of the minority as well. It is a republic and will remain so for some time to come.
 
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One slash on the forearm for every year locked up is a code of honor for some.
They should do like in the Navy, one stripe for every four years of duty. That can save them some forearm.
 

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The person Obama supported as next POTUS

A Partial History of Hillary's Abuses


TRAVELGATE (starts @ 12:32)
The Clintons fired the (long term) White House Travel Office employees, allowing their wealthy Hollywood friends to take over the lucrative travel business (worth 31 million annually). This led to investigations by the FBI, DOJ, GAO, Oversight Committee, and the Whitewater Independent Counsel. The Clintons claimed the firings were due to financial misdeeds, but the employees were cleared on all counts.

Hillary Clinton allegedly played a central role in the firings, yet in her sworn testimony, she claimed she was not involved. The Independent Counsel found this to be factually inaccurate, and that she made factually false statements. The Clintons were forced to remove their friends and reinstate the previous employees.


VINCE FOSTER'S DEATH (starts @ 13:19)
Vince Foster, the long time friend and companion of Hillary Clinton, was significantly involved in several Clinton scandals. Due to the strange circumstances surrounding his death in 1993, an investigation ensued. Before the police arrived, Clinton staffers illegally removed boxes of documents on Whitewater and presumably Travelgate and other sensitive issues.

HILLARY CARE (@ 13:43)
President (Bill) Clinton put his wife in charge of the most expensive program in the country. It was a national outrage that the unelected, unqualified first lady was going to design America's Health Care System. In a 1993 interview, Hillary Clinton admitted, "I am not an expert on healthcare, I'm not somebody who has studied it."

Hillary Clinton kept the presidential task force on National Healthcare reform shrouded in such secrecy that a federal judge threatened to hold the administration in contempt. Two years later the health plan was a 1,342 page nightmare, including gatekeepers, health alliances, purchasing co-operatives, new and higher taxes, and restrictions on choosing doctors. Physicians, hospitals, large and small businesses, insurance companies, Democrats, Republicans, and the general public rejected the program, and it failed disastrously.

The general accounting office put a price tag of
thirty two million dollars on Hillary Clinton's health care fiasco. For dishonesty, Hillary Clinton and others were fined $450,000.00 (four hundred and fifty thousand dollars). Court costs to taxpayers were $725,000.00 (seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars). In 1996, with Hillary Care fresh in their minds, Americans voted both the Senate and the House into Republican hands for the first time in over four decades.

WHITEWATER INVESTIGATIONS (@ 15:13)
In 1994, president Clinton's attorney general Janet Reno initiated an investigation focusing on fraud accusations against the Clintons, regarding their real estate venture, Whitewater Development Corporation, co-owned with their friends Jim and Susan McDougal. Hillary Clinton was the central figure, and the probe revealed pervasive conflicts of interest between the Rose Law Firm where Hillary Clinton was partner and its client Madison Guaranty, owned by Clinton business partner Jim McDougal.

Hillary Clinton claimed billing records subpoenaed and critical to the investigation were lost. It is presumed they were stolen from Vince Foster's office the night he died. Nineteen months later, following the Clinton's acquittal, many of the "missing" records reappeared in the Clinton's residence. As they were covered with Hillary Clinton's fingerprints, she fell under suspicion of obstruction of justice.

Their business partner Susan McDougal refused to testify against the Clintons, assuring they were not charged. Susan McDougal went to prison for her silence, but was pardoned by president Clinton. Fifteen Clinton associates were convicted of forty federal crimes related to Whitewater. The Independent Counsel's report highlighted: "The president's abundant and calculating lies under oath, obstruction of justice and abuse of power... " During this case, many other alleged abuses were uncovered. The four and a half year expanded investigation cost taxpayer $145 million dollars.


CATTLEGATE (@ 16:58)
Hillary Clinton's trades in cattle futures raised suspicions of improprieties, as her very first trade of five thousand dollars quickly turned into over $490,000.00 (four hundred and ninety thousand dollars plus, more than five times the rate of others who invested at the same time she had, sold at the peak of the market during the same period). She refused to release her tax returns for the years in question.

Hillary Clinton insisted that she made all the investment decisions herself. The investigation proved her trades were actually placed by her friend James Blair through the brokerage firm Refco. James Blair was outside counsel for Tyson Foods, the largest employer in Arkansas, which is state regulated. The perception was Mrs. Clinton received preferential treatment and incredible financial returns as a way to garner favor with her husband, then governor of Arkansas. Refco was investigated, and paid the largest fines in the history of the exchange.


FILEGATE (@ 18:00)
The Clinton Administration improperly requested and received FBI background reports on 900 Republican officials. Hillary Clinton allegedly initiated the request to add data into her enemies' list, leading to three separate investigations in 1996. In testimony, the White House Personnel Security Director refused to name Hillary Clinton as the source of the request and he was forced to resign. Hillary Clinton claimed she was guiltless and was called a "congenital liar" in the New York Times (by columnist William Safire).

THE CLINTON LEGAL DEFENSE FUND (@ 18:38)
The fund was established so individuals or companies hoping to garner favor with the president could help pay the Clinton's endless legal bills.

CHINAGATE (@ 18:49)
In 1996 the Justice Department investigated campaign
abuses and cover-ups by the Clintons in connection with an effort by China to influence administration policies. In violation of US law, agents for the Chinese government and military funnelled millions into president Clinton's re-election campaign, the Clinton Legal Defense Fund, and the DNC. The DOJ's report stated "a pattern of events suggests a level of knowledge within the White House - including the president's and first lady's offices - concerning the injection of foreign funds into the re-election effort."

[video=youtube;a-xjiXfJ58Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-xjiXfJ58Q[/video]

IRS ABUSES (@ 19:33)
The Clintons were accused of using the IRS to harass their enemies, including Republican politicians, the White House Travel Office, the NRA, Judicial Watch, the Heritage Foundation, and other conservative organizations. A senior IRS official admitted that Clinton opponents were singled out for tax audits. Also audited were Bill Clinton's female accusers, including Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, and Elizabeth Ward Gracen.

PARDONGATE (@ 20:08)
As he was leaving office in January 2001, President (Bill) Clinton pardoned 450 people for crimes ranging from cocaine trafficking to kidnapping and terrorism. Several pardons personally benefitted Hillary Clinton, and were investigated for direct ties to her New York senate bid.

>> Marc Rich (on FBI's 10 most wanted list) a billionaire fugitive, owed the government over 160 million dollars, and was charged with tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering, and trading with Iran. Rich's ex-wife Denise Rich, a close friend of the Clintons, donated over $600,000,00 (six hundred thousand dollars plus) to the Clinton Presidential Library just prior to the pardon. Mrs. Rich also gave $14,000.000 (fourteen thousand dollars) to the Clinton Legal Defense Fund, and $135,000.000 (one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars) to Hillary Clinton's senate campaign.

>> The New Square Four were elders of a republican voting Hassidic community convicted of defrauding the government of millions of dollars. Candidate Clinton met with their grand rabbi.
Hillary Clinton received their votes and The New Square Four received their pardons. Hillary Clinton claimed "I did not play any role whatsoever in the pardons."

-Hillary Clinton's brother, lawyer Hugh Rodham, charged high fees to use his family influence to obtain presidential pardons. (Two examples: )

>> Carlos Vignali (a Los Angeles drug lord) paid Rodham over $500,000.00 (five hundred thousand dollars) and his sentence for cocaine trafficking was commuted.


>> Almon Braswell (a scam artist) paid Rodham over $250,000.00 (two hundred and fifty thousand dollars) and was pardoned for defrauding senior citizens of millions of dollars.

>> FALN Terrorists, fighting for Puerto Rican independence, the FALN exploded 138 bombs in New York City, Chicago, and Puerto Rico. During a ten year reign of terror, thirteen innocent people were killed, and over eighty were maimed. NYC councilman Jose Rivera met with Hillary Clinton, proposing pardons for FALN members in return for Puerto Rican support in her senate race (whoa, peacenik comes to mind :p). Two days later president Clinton pardoned sixteen FALN convicted on murder, terrorism and weapons charges. These pardons were condemned by democrats and republicans, the House and Senate, the FBI, the US Attorney, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and the Fraternal Order of Police. Another probe into Clinton wrongdoing ensued. When Congress requested additional information, President Clinton claimed Executive Privilege, preventing anyone involved with the pardons from testifying. Hillary Clinton claimed "No involvement in or prior knowledge of the decision." (Former democratic president Jimmy Carter called these shameless pardons "disgraceful.")

HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN FINANCE INVESTIGATIONS (@ 23:13)
The largest political fundraiser in US history became the largest election fraud in history. In the year 2000, the fundraiser for Hillary Clinton's New York senate race was attended by 1,300 (one thousand three hundred) people, including the Hollywood elite and the Democratic leadership. In violation of federal elections statutes, an individual, Peter Paul, financed the entire event. Peter Paul was also a convicted cocaine trafficker. In violation, Hillary Clinton was involved with the solicitation of funds and the coordination of the gala. In violation, Hillary Clinton requested in writing an additional $150,000.00 (one hundred and fifty thousand dollars) from Peter Paul, in untraceable securities. The Clinton's campaign filings with the Federal Elections' Committee stated the even only cost $500.000.00 (five hundred thousand dollars, or half a million dollars). The actual price tag was one point five million. Senator Clinton was fined over $50,000.00 (fifty thousand dollars) for "purposefully underreporting" the cost of the event (the largest in history). In another campaign finance fraud, Hillary Clinton ignored FBI warnings and accepted over $900,000,00 (nine hundred thousand dollars) from scam artist and felon Norman Hsu.

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Hillary Clinton has had power as first lady, U.S. senator and secretary of State, now she wants to achieve the ultimate in power, the presidency of the United States. Along this road we have seen her record and it is a trail of cover-ups, misstatements, dissemblings, half-truths and outright lies. It is increasingly difficult to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything because doubt would imply there might be some reason to believe that at least some of the things she says are true. Hillary Clinton is a congenital liar - Washington Times

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Regarding the defense of the Clintons in the face of scandal after scandal:
Most people close to the Clintons say it is endless.
FBI Director, Freeh:

"The problem was with Bill Clinton, the scandals and rumored scandals, the incubating ones and the dying ones never ended. Whatever moral compass the president was consulting was leading him in the wrong direction. His closets were full of skeletons just waiting to burst out."

Freeh says he was preoccupied for eight years with multiple investigations, including Whitewater, Jennifer Flowers and the Monica Lewinsky affair.

He found it deeply awkward and frustrating to be constantly investigating his boss and says it became 'theater of the absurd' when special prosecutor Ken Starr asked him to get a DNA sample from the president to compare with that notorious stain on Lewinsky's dress.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-fbi-chief-on-clintons-scandals/
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Bill Clinton was the second president of the United States of America to be impeached. On Dec 19, 1998, the US House of Representatives voted on articles of impeachment against William Jefferson Clinton. He was found guilty of providing perjurious, false, and misleading testimony to the grand jury, and he prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice.

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Bill Clinton's brother: My brother (Bill Clinton) has a nose like a vacuum.
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"... my name would be mud, my FBI career would be over, and I might even be in danger if the stories coming from Little Rock (Arkansas) were true about how so many enemies of the Clintons ended up having fatal accidents." Gary Aldrich, special agent to the FBI assigned to the White House.
 

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One slash on the forearm for every year locked up is a code of honor for some.
Wanna know the 2 biggest welfare Queens in America?
Walmart and McDonald's
 
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Wanna know the 2 biggest welfare Queens in America?
Walmart and McDonald's
Can you explain what makes this statement true?
There is a lady who is a member of the church I serve as pastor who works for Walmart. She makes over $15 per hour for stocking shelves. She says she is treated great and loves her job.
75% of all Walmart mangers started out as hourly employees.
Now some will say $15 per hour is not a great wage and that may be true in some cities, but here in Arkansas, that is much above average.
 

Dude653

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Can you explain what makes this statement true?
There is a lady who is a member of the church I serve as pastor who works for Walmart. She makes over $15 per hour for stocking shelves. She says she is treated great and loves her job.
75% of all Walmart mangers started out as hourly employees.
Now some will say $15 per hour is not a great wage and that may be true in some cities, but here in Arkansas, that is much above average.
I'm assuming they must have recently changed some of their policies because the last of his thing I read was that Walmart cost taxpayers almost a billion dollars per year due to their low wages and lack of benefits
 

Dude653

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Democrats need to just get on board and accept Trump like Republicans did with Obama....oh wait......
 

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brother,peace making is a lot better than insults.
 
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I'm assuming they must have recently changed some of their policies because the last of his thing I read was that Walmart cost taxpayers almost a billion dollars per year due to their low wages and lack of iving benefits
Many Walmart employees do receive different government benefits ( food stamps, SS, disability, etc), but would be in even more need if it were not for Walmart giving these people the opportunity to work and better their lives. Many retired people who can not live on their SS benefits work for Walmart and are thankful that Walmart helps them survive.
There are many Walmart employees in our local Walmart that are considered "unemployable" by many companies for various reasons.
Before some one start condemning a company for how it treats and pays it's employees, they should talk to those employees. Not the ones in the streets, but the ones with the smiling faces doing the work in the stores.
 
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brother,peace making is a lot better than insults.
Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade....and dude and I have been at this a long time. I mean he thought it was cool the way that lady treated her 7 year old son.
 
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wanderer6059

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Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade....and dude and I have been at this a long time. I mean he thought it was cool the way that lady treated her 7 year old son.
just cause its permissible doesn't make it beneficial. what have you been doing, insulting people, at 45....mature much?
 
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brother,peace making is a lot better than insults.
I was thinking about dude the other day....and I was thinking how what a unique circumstance God has placed him in. To save him and then have him where He has him... only for the guy to conform to the patterns of the world instead of being a transforming influence in his community. To spew democrat talking points that he probably hears on every street corner. It makes me smh.
 
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just cause its permissible doesn't make it beneficial. what have you been doing, insulting people, at 45....mature much?
You know what friend.....youre not gonna have good luck with this tact with me.