Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

[p_rehbein]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Every Election that takes place has "some" cases of Voter Fraud...........that really isn't the issue. The issue is: Is there evidence of Voter Fraud to the extent that it could/would CHANGE the results of the Election. Be it in Electoral Votes, or Popular Votes. To date, neither side has shown anything to support their assertions, other than the usual Politispeech that infects every Election.

Trump won the Election based on Electoral Vote totals...........even though it is looking like he lost the Popular Vote by some 2.3 million votes. And, as some have suggested, ONLY WHEN the Electoral College casts their votes will the Victory be secured for him. I don't see any surprises there, even if one or two, or a few change their vote, Trump will still garner enough to become the next President.

Now, what this loss of Popular Vote does do is remove any thought that Trump received a "Mandate" from the American people based on his Campaign promises. Mandates require a substantial victory in the Popular Vote totals to be real. Even that doesn't matter, for they will claim they have a Mandate, and the other side will claim they don't, but he will still be President.

The real question is: What will happen once he takes Office?

 

[PeterJens]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

I have a humorous thought.

Alex Jones who believes everything is a great conspiracy, that aliens run the country,
that the government is going to do a military take over, that massive hangers are under
america housing space craft etc. now have their man in the white house, soon.

When you finally discover it is just not true, and simply running a country is unknown and
there is not a lot you can actually change, what then?

You have either to invent you own reality and it becomes a propoganda machine
and truth dies or you have to grow up.

Track record is Trump plays only propoganda, so destruction is on its way.

In politics, people have to like you, if you wind up everyone all the time, end up
being two faced, in the end, you are junked. I give it 6 months or less.

In the UK disaster one liner Boris is a sinking ship. He says what he personally thinks
when he is representing a country, and towing the line matters, not a little bit,
but it is often the whole show.

For Trump, if people start to believe he stands for nothing, he becomes nothing.

 

[PeterJens]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

I had another thought. Trump might actually read this thread, lol.
You know he loves twitter and the internet, would not put it past him.

 

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

You might want to add Paul Ryan to that list of folks you are laughing at...........just saying..........as for "evidence," none has been presented to prove voter fraud to the extent that it would have given Trump the victory in Popular Vote either, but that doesn't keep him from crying about that eh?

Youre a racist. Where's my proof? I don't have any, but that never stops liberals from playing the race card. Funny how liberals demand evidence of things when the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Every Election that takes place has "some" cases of Voter Fraud...........that really isn't the issue. The issue is: Is there evidence of Voter Fraud to the extent that it could/would CHANGE the results of the Election. Be it in Electoral Votes, or Popular Votes. To date, neither side has shown anything to support their assertions, other than the usual Politispeech that infects every Election.

Trump won the Election based on Electoral Vote totals...........even though it is looking like he lost the Popular Vote by some 2.3 million votes. And, as some have suggested, ONLY WHEN the Electoral College casts their votes will the Victory be secured for him. I don't see any surprises there, even if one or two, or a few change their vote, Trump will still garner enough to become the next President.

Now, what this loss of Popular Vote does do is remove any thought that Trump received a "Mandate" from the American people based on his Campaign promises. Mandates require a substantial victory in the Popular Vote totals to be real. Even that doesn't matter, for they will claim they have a Mandate, and the other side will claim they don't, but he will still be President.

The real question is: What will happen once he takes Office?

Hillary received 62 million votes. 47 million of which were cast from able-bodied, non-working, welfare and food stamp recipients. That means only 15 million Hillary voters work while a much larger percentage of Uncle Don's 60 million voters work and are productive members of society. That's a mandate from the American workforce that we want change. And to quote Sam Cooke, change gonna come.

 

[jennymae]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Every Election that takes place has "some" cases of Voter Fraud...........that really isn't the issue. The issue is: Is there evidence of Voter Fraud to the extent that it could/would CHANGE the results of the Election. Be it in Electoral Votes, or Popular Votes. To date, neither side has shown anything to support their assertions, other than the usual Politispeech that infects every Election.

Trump won the Election based on Electoral Vote totals...........even though it is looking like he lost the Popular Vote by some 2.3 million votes. And, as some have suggested, ONLY WHEN the Electoral College casts their votes will the Victory be secured for him. I don't see any surprises there, even if one or two, or a few change their vote, Trump will still garner enough to become the next President.

Now, what this loss of Popular Vote does do is remove any thought that Trump received a "Mandate" from the American people based on his Campaign promises. Mandates require a substantial victory in the Popular Vote totals to be real. Even that doesn't matter, for they will claim they have a Mandate, and the other side will claim they don't, but he will still be President.

The real question is: What will happen once he takes Office?

I'd rather not think of it. I'm praying for his presidency, but I don't have much faith in it.

I hope he will prove us all wrong.

 

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

I'd rather not think of it. I'm praying for his presidency, but I don't have much faith in it.

I hope he will prove us all wrong.

After eight years of sedition and treason from the Muslim-in-Chief, you say you doubt Uncle Don. You liberals are a gas!

 

[jennymae]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

After eight years of sedition and treason from the Muslim-in-Chief, you say you doubt Uncle Don. You liberals are a gas!

Uncle Don? More like Unca $crooge...

 

[Sirk]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Hillary received 62 million votes. 47 million of which were cast from able-bodied, non-working, welfare and food stamp recipients. That means only 15 million Hillary voters work while a much larger percentage of Uncle Don's 60 million voters work and are productive members of society. That's a mandate from the American workforce that we want change. And to quote Sam Cooke, change gonna come.

Ya....cuz we want to be exactly like the crime ridden, poverty stricken areas of the United States who vote for liberals, love liberals, let liberals destroy their communities and then vote for them again.

 

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Ya....cuz we want to be exactly like the crime ridden, poverty stricken areas of the United States who vote for liberals, love liberals, let liberals destroy their communities and then vote for them again.

Liberals are the living epitome of insanity.

 

[jennymae]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Liberals are the living epitome of insanity.

Will you please stop using that word "liberal"? It makes me cringe.

 

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Will you please stop using that word "liberal"? It makes me cringe.

Liberal . . .

 

[LaurenTM]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Two days ago, Trump issued a remarkable and completely unsubstantiated claim, alleging that millions of voters cast their ballots illegally. However, no evidence was presented to support this claim, and experts and election officials are almost unanimous in their agreement that voter fraud is almost nonexistent. Organizations such as the Brennan Center for Justice, Factcheck, and the Associated Press all dismiss the notion that widespread voter fraud occurs. Lindsey Graham, a seasoned Republican politician, challenged Trump to back his assertion up and expressed confidence in the integrity of the 2016 presidential election results.

Despite all this, I think Trump's baseless suspicion of widespread voter fraud isn't the real issue. It's his utter lack of restraint and tact -- his whimsical attitude and bombastic ego on full display.

except it is not baseless

we have had to listen to ACTUAL baseless lies and truth twisting low these last 8 years...the liberal news media never go anywhere without their crystal balls and tea leaf readers

maybe you should attempt to actually pursue some truth also

voter fraud has been proven for years with dead people voting, people voting in more than one state etc...I think even the dog from Frasier votes

this time around, your (apparently) exiting superstar prez encouraged illegals to vote and there were petitions making the rounds for people to sign which acknowledged their acquiesce with the illegal vote

the dems are making a lot of smoke...but no one...REPEAT...no one is forced to get it in their eyes unless they wish to do so

when I have time and this thread is still being tossed around, I will provide links to what I say...unless someone who does not have to make breakfast for the natives and workout and do some dusting around the place...provides them first

 

[LaurenTM]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

oh snoot

I just realized this war zone.....er thread...is 8 pages long

well, doesn't matter I guess

coffee? I must need more...........

 

[Tommy379]

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Will you please stop using that word "liberal"? It makes me cringe.

Why did you come back then?

You put yourself right back where you said you were "bullied."

 

[Susanna]

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Why all this fuzz about the popular votes? They wont change a thing.

 

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Why all this fuzz about the popular votes? They wont change a thing.

I like when five-o uses the word, fuzz.

 

[Utah]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Why did you come back then?

You put yourself right back where you said you were "bullied."

That's a million dollar question.

 

[jsr1221]

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Will you please stop using that word "liberal"? It makes me cringe.

When you were gone, there were folks accusing you of being Susanna. Apparently she had posted similar stuff as to what you would say.. Seeing the comments, I can easily see no one has reached out and apologized for accusing you hiding behind another account. People act tougher behind keypads. Don't let them get to you.

 

[jsr1221]

Re: Trump's bizarre claim that "millions of illegal votes" cost him the popular vote

Hillary received 62 million votes. 47 million of which were cast from able-bodied, non-working, welfare and food stamp recipients. That means only 15 million Hillary voters work while a much larger percentage of Uncle Don's 60 million voters work and are productive members of society. That's a mandate from the American workforce that we want change. And to quote Sam Cooke, change gonna come.

Umm...an illegal and an unemployed person are two different descriptions. I know unemployed folks that were born in the US. Just because a person doesn't work, that doesn't automatically mean they are unproductive members of society. Different people, different situations. I get the meaning behind your post, but it's kinda unwise to group everyone together when you're trying to make a point.