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What percenter are you?
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All kidding aside. I dunno? I don't count it, I don't pay much attention to it, and I have enough?
It manifests in the mindset that this is perfectly acceptable CEO Pay Continues to Rise as Typical Workers Are Paid Less | Economic Policy Institute
Assuming it isn't a bogus stat, how do you think a Christian should respond to it? What should a Christian do about it?
I see nobody disputing the idolatry of money, sir. This very OP is the closest example I've seen of it, but even then it would serve as a rather weak example of such idolatry if unsubstantiated.
I guess he thinks we should appoint a government to extort money from the successful at the end of a gun barrel.
I want to know why rickyz is so concerned about what others have earned?
Why not earn your own, rickyz?
He said it himself- he wants to see the overall income of people on this forum in hopes of understanding why they support the economic policies they do.
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jennymae
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I have no idea what algorithm he has in mind for that or why he thought people would "anonymously" report it (there is no anonymous on the internet except that band of hackers).
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You lost me on percentages, but the two of us make $30K+
I make a little over $10000.
love your post Joi,
please try and not to get jealous, but I got a $1.00 raise where I live!!!
Hmmmm. You must not live in Calif.
Sorry another interruption.
Joi you are right. We should trust God to provide and be happy with what He gives us.
But there are other issues in play here.
We are charged with being good stewards of our 'talents'. We trade our time for compensation. If we do not insist on receiving fair compensation then we are not being good stewards of that 'talent'. If you accept wages that are not comparable with your 'talent' then you are hiding your talents in the ground.
Too, by giving the rich a pass on hording wealth we do them wrong in 2 ways... First we tempt them to horde more... this is a mentality that says 'it's never enough'. The more they get the more they want. And the more they have to put the screws to working stiffs to get it.
Secondly, and this is my main concern, we let them get drawn away from God. The link in my previous post references a webpage that has compiled 54 scriptures that all in effect say you cannot serve God and money, and where your riches are there is your heart. Our hearts belong to God not in the bank. Jesus told the rich man to sell it all and support the poor and he would see God's kingdom. The man walked away depressed because his heart was in his riches. THIS above all bothers me. To hear so many here with their hearts in their bank accounts and not invested in God. And so many more who are evidently intent on enabling that.
For a long time I have heard that in the end it will cost a day's wages to buy a day's food. The assumption was that food would be that costly. But now I wonder how much it could rest on a days wages being so incredibly insufficient to provide for even food.
You cannot serve God and money. You can store up here, or you can store up in heaven. You cannot do both. Those who cheer the rich in padding their ever fattening bank accounts would do well to consider that.
Joi you are right. We should trust God to provide and be happy with what He gives us.
But there are other issues in play here.
We are charged with being good stewards of our 'talents'. We trade our time for compensation. If we do not insist on receiving fair compensation then we are not being good stewards of that 'talent'. If you accept wages that are not comparable with your 'talent' then you are hiding your talents in the ground.
Too, by giving the rich a pass on hording wealth we do them wrong in 2 ways... First we tempt them to horde more... this is a mentality that says 'it's never enough'. The more they get the more they want. And the more they have to put the screws to working stiffs to get it.
Secondly, and this is my main concern, we let them get drawn away from God. The link in my previous post references a webpage that has compiled 54 scriptures that all in effect say you cannot serve God and money, and where your riches are there is your heart. Our hearts belong to God not in the bank. Jesus told the rich man to sell it all and support the poor and he would see God's kingdom. The man walked away depressed because his heart was in his riches. THIS above all bothers me. To hear so many here with their hearts in their bank accounts and not invested in God. And so many more who are evidently intent on enabling that.
For a long time I have heard that in the end it will cost a day's wages to buy a day's food. The assumption was that food would be that costly. But now I wonder how much it could rest on a days wages being so incredibly insufficient to provide for even food.
You cannot serve God and money. You can store up here, or you can store up in heaven. You cannot do both. Those who cheer the rich in padding their ever fattening bank accounts would do well to consider that.
Just cracking six figures, my wife and I are in the 8%. That means that 92% of Americans make less than us. And that just scares the h3ll out of me. What we make is not that much in this day and age and I honestly don't understand how so many can make ends meet on substantially less. And they don't. Hordes of people every day are faced with the decisions that brings - do I buy food? Do I pay the rent? Do I get to have my medicines this month? Do I put it all on the credit card and hope the economy crashes again so they will forgive it all? My wife and I, we could bank a bunch of what we get at favorable rates and pad our bank account like so many here cheer and applaud. But we spend every penny of it. One, because again if you don't live on debt (we don't) it doesn't go very far; and 2 our spending and consumerism is the only hope that 92% has of keeping what little they've got. We don't use automated checkouts because we want cashiers to keep their jobs. We used to boycott Walmart, it just doesn't seem right that one of the richest families in this country is also one of this country's largest welfare recipients, but we ended the boycott because people have time and again proven that they will fight till they're under a bridge to support corporate America's right to treat them like slaves. And tho they may be hiding their talents in the ground those are still people who need their jobs. We don't horde as seems to be the fashion these days. We spread the wealth to those who are not so blessed.
Now, someone here is going to cry that I'm playing the 'holier than thou' card. That's just a ruse to deflect the issue. This is intended solely as a LESSON:
You CANNOT serve God and money, and where your treasure lay there too is your heart. And FAR TOO MANY OF YOU have signed on to the world's call to store your treasures with Goldman Sachs. Frankly, every dollar I see in our bank account is a dollar we don't have waiting for us on the other side. I don't want it! Neither should YOU! Nor should you support it.
"Sell all you have and give to the poor". And right now the working stiff is included in that boat. You gonna walk away depressed, or at you going to say: Hey General Electric, how 'bout you bring some of your money on shore and help your poor employees get health care"?
What would Jesus do?
Now, someone here is going to cry that I'm playing the 'holier than thou' card. That's just a ruse to deflect the issue. This is intended solely as a LESSON:
You CANNOT serve God and money, and where your treasure lay there too is your heart. And FAR TOO MANY OF YOU have signed on to the world's call to store your treasures with Goldman Sachs. Frankly, every dollar I see in our bank account is a dollar we don't have waiting for us on the other side. I don't want it! Neither should YOU! Nor should you support it.
"Sell all you have and give to the poor". And right now the working stiff is included in that boat. You gonna walk away depressed, or at you going to say: Hey General Electric, how 'bout you bring some of your money on shore and help your poor employees get health care"?
What would Jesus do?
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At 30k that means 53% of this country makes less than you do. That's over half. And assuming there's 2 of you that means you don't even double the poverty line (16k for 2). Do you think it's right that so many people live that close to the poverty line while corporations sit on trillions that their employees helped them earn?