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Well I personally think that woman is not deemed unworthy to all men. In fact she would make a wonderful wife to some man who has had a similar background and lifestyle like that of her. And both of them became born again at some stage in their lives, and well we have a match - similar past, and similar future!
"Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous." [Heb 13:4]
So should we assume that God won't judge? Or would he just *wink* at you and say, "It's okay, I love ya, I got your back!"
Is The Lord Jesus Christ some merciful cuck sitting in Heaven just waiting to forgive ? lol I don't think so...
Well you observed the issue, but you didn't quite fully understand and the repercussions that follow it.
Did you know that a woman can carry the DNA of ALL her male sexual partners in the past?? [through their semen]
Here is an article to englighten you: Research Suggests That A Woman’s Body Incorporates DNA From The Semen Of Her Casual Sex Partners
Wow, it even the great Aristotle believed in it, now it has been proven sought of on a scientific level.
Well no wonder the Lord commanded us not to have sex before marriage. All sorts of problems seem to surface later in the future. But I guess to some young Christian men and women it's like "Meh, we don't care!" We will eat the cake on both sides. Have lots and lots of sex, enjoy our youth and later settle down, cry a few crocodile tears, God forgives and wallah! A hall pass to eternal Life and Heaven!! Beautiful life eh? lol
Well, not quite and there is no guarantee of that. 'Where' and on 'what' man - the woman's focus is - that needs to be tested and substantiated by God Himself.. otherwise I wouldn't believe her at all.
Nobody enters the Kingdom of God up until their faith is tested in FIRE!
"Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous." [Heb 13:4]
So should we assume that God won't judge? Or would he just *wink* at you and say, "It's okay, I love ya, I got your back!"
Is The Lord Jesus Christ some merciful cuck sitting in Heaven just waiting to forgive ? lol I don't think so...
Well you observed the issue, but you didn't quite fully understand and the repercussions that follow it.
Did you know that a woman can carry the DNA of ALL her male sexual partners in the past?? [through their semen]
Here is an article to englighten you: Research Suggests That A Woman’s Body Incorporates DNA From The Semen Of Her Casual Sex Partners
Wow, it even the great Aristotle believed in it, now it has been proven sought of on a scientific level.
Well no wonder the Lord commanded us not to have sex before marriage. All sorts of problems seem to surface later in the future. But I guess to some young Christian men and women it's like "Meh, we don't care!" We will eat the cake on both sides. Have lots and lots of sex, enjoy our youth and later settle down, cry a few crocodile tears, God forgives and wallah! A hall pass to eternal Life and Heaven!! Beautiful life eh? lol
Well, not quite and there is no guarantee of that. 'Where' and on 'what' man - the woman's focus is - that needs to be tested and substantiated by God Himself.. otherwise I wouldn't believe her at all.
Nobody enters the Kingdom of God up until their faith is tested in FIRE!
And do you not think that the fires of the consequences of sin (your own or someone else's) are enough of a test of a person's faith? Personally, I think that learning to relate in a godly way through all kinds of junk that sin brought into you life will make you a godly person on a much deeper level than just having a good life and never having to deal with anything. And I've got some pretty serious respect for those who used to sleep around but have stopped completely and are committed to waiting now. I think that's likely a harder road to walk than having always waited and not knowing what you're missing (though I can't say I regret missing out on any of the betrayal, heartache, etc that often follows) .
My dear not only the consequences of sin (willfully committed) but also general *carnality* which is not subject to the law of God also has to be dealt with. Pride? (even in the most subtlest form)Whose spiritual attribute is that? Christ or the Serpent? What do you think happened in the Garden of Eden? Do you know that yours and my 'natural' mind is a spiritually bastard child in the similitude of the Serpent? God has to TEST me throughout the entire spectrum and test the efficacy of my faith, otherwise adulterers, and borderline 'swingers' can't inherit the kingdom of God. Simply to say, The Lord Jesus Christ is NOT a cuck! If I agree with my natural mind/Serpent, I made my bed with her. And If I agree with the Lord, I have gone to my original spiritual HUSBAND/Christ & that is how it should be.
So, faith testing in fire I meant that every aspect of all thoughts needs to be tested making sure that I am not in agreement with my natural mind.
“Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” [Rom8: 7]
"So that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ." [1 Peter 1:7]
Right, and that difficulty is not brought upon them by God, but their own sinful nature. We know God doesn't tempt man, and if a man is tempted he/she is tempted away from his/her own lusts.
Sex creates a soul tie! Any man/woman that fornicates should enter a form of spiritual rehabilitation within their own church under the guidance of the pastor and God and stay put until those soul-ties are broken off. It could take 5-10 years all depending on his/her relationship with Christ and how committed they are to Him. So, while they are in the initial stages of rehabilitation, those late nights of sexual bliss will haunt the soul because the soul is tied up due to that explicit sexual relationship. The keyword here is 'sexual orgasm' which is that potent joining-compound
Nevertheless, it is a battle worthy to be fought!
So, faith testing in fire I meant that every aspect of all thoughts needs to be tested making sure that I am not in agreement with my natural mind.
“Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” [Rom8: 7]
"So that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ." [1 Peter 1:7]
Right, and that difficulty is not brought upon them by God, but their own sinful nature. We know God doesn't tempt man, and if a man is tempted he/she is tempted away from his/her own lusts.
Sex creates a soul tie! Any man/woman that fornicates should enter a form of spiritual rehabilitation within their own church under the guidance of the pastor and God and stay put until those soul-ties are broken off. It could take 5-10 years all depending on his/her relationship with Christ and how committed they are to Him. So, while they are in the initial stages of rehabilitation, those late nights of sexual bliss will haunt the soul because the soul is tied up due to that explicit sexual relationship. The keyword here is 'sexual orgasm' which is that potent joining-compound
Nevertheless, it is a battle worthy to be fought!
G
The verses you need to think about are these I Corinthians 7:1-5 Instead of having fun with random women, if you are saved, your body belongs to your wife- not to you. Your wife's body will belong to you, not herself. I think of virginity as not mine to give away. It belongs to my husband. I am at an age where I realize it will be difficult for me to marry a man who is still a virgin, but I want to marry a Christian man who knows that faithfulness in marriage is all important. "The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife." If you look at it that way, then remaining a virgin is looked at differently. It is like giving away something that isn't yours to give away. I recently read a description about a woman getting married and wearing a white dress because she earned it, I like that. I don't know if there is a male corollary to think about. I do know this, if you will stay a virgin until marriage, your wife will appreciate the sacrifice that you made for your mutual happiness.
When I was single and looking for a wife, I was only interested in certain types of girls. That included looks. For example, if a girl had fat arms or kind of big shoulders, I just wasn't into that. I liked a certain build. Is that wrong? What about men liking redheads, or Asians, or women like guys who are tall or with big shoulders. What about the man or woman who only wants to marry a musician. Is it right to judge someone for these preferences, even for insisting on them? There are people with a variety of characteristics and people with a variety of preferences who can match up.
What if you were single (can't remember) and your friends, relatives, and everyone kept suggesting you marry this woman that you just found totally physically unappealing to you personally. She had all these great spiritual characteristics. What would you say if they accused you of judging her, of treating her 'unworthy' because of her looks. I think it is a really good thing if a husband is attracted to his wife and the wife is attracted to her husband. Some people are just good-looking, but other people appeal to certain other individuals, and looks aren't as important to everyone, so people marry off. Is it wrong to marry someone who is attractive to you? Why would it be okay to not pursue a spouse based on physical characteristics, but wrong to not pursue someone as a spouse based on a lack of virginity?
Isn't virginity a much more sensible criteria? Look at the Bible. Doesn't it imply that marrying a virgin is a good thing? Why the death penalty for a girl married off as a virgin who was not one if marrying a virgin is not desirable?
Not so much in parts of Asia. I was living and working in Asia in my 20's. I married a virgin. There seem to be lots of them around here. At least, that's the impression I get.
Do you think a large percentage of Jewish men in the time of Moses or the time of Christ had difficulty dealing with real life situations? What about Joseph in Matthew 1? Would you judge this man of faith the same way?
Another thing to consider is that women who were virgins at marriage or only fornicated with the man they ended up marrying had a way lower rate of 'marital disruption' than those who had multiple partners, according to Teachman 1990. I've seen blogs that present statistical evidence that the rate of divorce goes up proportionately with the number of sex partners, but I am unaware of a peer reviewed study about that.
I wanted to marry a virgin because the Bible says, "Two shall be one flesh." I saw marriages failing in the US (not so much in Indonesia), and I wanted to do things right. I wanted to marry a woman with the same faith and the same values that I held to. I wanted to marry a virgin. I wanted her father's approval.
That's an option. But it is not required. Would you chide a woman who did not want to date or marry a man for having spent time in prison, rehab, or a mental hospital?
What if you were single (can't remember) and your friends, relatives, and everyone kept suggesting you marry this woman that you just found totally physically unappealing to you personally. She had all these great spiritual characteristics. What would you say if they accused you of judging her, of treating her 'unworthy' because of her looks. I think it is a really good thing if a husband is attracted to his wife and the wife is attracted to her husband. Some people are just good-looking, but other people appeal to certain other individuals, and looks aren't as important to everyone, so people marry off. Is it wrong to marry someone who is attractive to you? Why would it be okay to not pursue a spouse based on physical characteristics, but wrong to not pursue someone as a spouse based on a lack of virginity?
Isn't virginity a much more sensible criteria? Look at the Bible. Doesn't it imply that marrying a virgin is a good thing? Why the death penalty for a girl married off as a virgin who was not one if marrying a virgin is not desirable?
Not so much in parts of Asia. I was living and working in Asia in my 20's. I married a virgin. There seem to be lots of them around here. At least, that's the impression I get.
Do you think a large percentage of Jewish men in the time of Moses or the time of Christ had difficulty dealing with real life situations? What about Joseph in Matthew 1? Would you judge this man of faith the same way?
Another thing to consider is that women who were virgins at marriage or only fornicated with the man they ended up marrying had a way lower rate of 'marital disruption' than those who had multiple partners, according to Teachman 1990. I've seen blogs that present statistical evidence that the rate of divorce goes up proportionately with the number of sex partners, but I am unaware of a peer reviewed study about that.
I wanted to marry a virgin because the Bible says, "Two shall be one flesh." I saw marriages failing in the US (not so much in Indonesia), and I wanted to do things right. I wanted to marry a woman with the same faith and the same values that I held to. I wanted to marry a virgin. I wanted her father's approval.
That's an option. But it is not required. Would you chide a woman who did not want to date or marry a man for having spent time in prison, rehab, or a mental hospital?
E
You obviously want the girl you marry to be a virgin like you or else you would not have waited and rejected other girls who weren't. It sounds to me like you are starting to get discouraged because you haven't yet found her, and are considering settling. DONT SETTLE. This not only hurts you, but it also hurts the girl your settling for. Today's society doesn't care about purity, but God does. Both men and women are supposed to be practicing absitenence until marriage, but our society makes this seem foolish, and even impossible. You yourself are proof that this is not true however, as you being a male virgin defies all society's hypothesis about male sexuality. You also have to know that the mate God has chosen for you could be facing the same struggle, and considering giving in. If both of you would wait until you are united together, your marriage and sexual union will be greatly blessed. Additionally, you will both be so glad you waited.
T
Look what I found:
Katharina and Martin Luther: The Radical Marriage of a Runaway Nun and a Renegade Monk
https://www.amazon.com/Katharina-Martin-Luther-Marriage-Renegade/dp/0801019109
Katharina and Martin Luther: The Radical Marriage of a Runaway Nun and a Renegade Monk
https://www.amazon.com/Katharina-Martin-Luther-Marriage-Renegade/dp/0801019109
