U.N. Votes Against Israel

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kaylagrl

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Take some Temazepam and calm down KG
Back off Spurgeoncy. Ive had enough of you and like minded people pushing your hatred and false beliefs and telling people what to do like you run the place. You're new and you act like you're the head hog around here. Do us both a favor and block me,Im done with your foolishness and brashness.
 
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LaurenTM

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Originally Posted by tooldtocare

It was a promise if and only if they complied with His commandments. They have FAILED to do so and so this promise is null and void



No, the Bible doesn't say that. Foolishness!
that is so Kayla

the logical conclusion of what tooldtocare (then why bother to post an opinion) states, is that one must earn one's salvation also by obedience

I don't think some people think through what they post since their own arguments cancel out what they espouse
 

tanakh

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Genesis 12:1-3
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Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
''and in thee all families of the earth shall be blessed''

Unless you happen to be Palestinian including Christian ones
 
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eternally-gratefull

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It was a promise if and only if they complied with His commandments. They have FAILED to do so and so this promise is null and void
Can you please show in Gen 12/15 and 17 where God made it a requirement for them to be obedient for them to OWN the land?

I know he gave them a requirement to live in peace in THEIR LAND, but where was the requirement for them to obey to OWN IT?
 
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LaurenTM

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Take some Temazepam and calm down KG
you seem to know an awful lot about drugs

is that what YOU take?

LOL!...being rude seems to be your calling card....love these people who join up and immediately begin to attack others

then this one, tells people who counter his opinions to take drugs

seriously...who do you think you are?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

(Deu 7:9 KJV) Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

(Deu 7:11 KJV) Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 10:19 KJV) Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Deu 24:20 KJV) When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Zec 7:10 KJV) And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart.

(Exo 22:21 KJV) Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV) Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 25:35 KJV) And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

(Deu 10:18 KJV) He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.

(Deu 10:19 KJV) Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Note:The Lord set conditions that the Israelite's must follow if they were to stay in Jerusalem

(2 Chr 6:22 KJV) If a man sin against his neighbour, and an oath be laid upon him to make him swear, and the oath come before thine altar in this house;

(2 Chr 7:17 KJV) And as for thee, if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded thee, and shalt observe my statutes and my judgments;

(2 Chr 7:18 KJV) Then will I stablish the throne of thy kingdom, according as I have covenanted with David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man to be ruler in Israel.

"Then will I" is not the same as murder and destroy to conquer what I give you (That is no gift)
Lev 26:
[SUP]40 [/SUP]‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,
[SUP]41 [/SUP]and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies;
if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—
[SUP]42 [/SUP]then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]The land also shall be left empty by them, and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them;
they will accept their guilt, because they despised My judgments and because their soul abhorred My statutes.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, nor shall I abhor them, to utterly destroy them and break My covenant with them;
for I am the Lord their God.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]But for their sake I will remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God:
I am the Lord.’”

so I take it this is no longer valid?
 

p_rehbein

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They are not citizens of Israel, they are guests/immigrants accepted by Israel. Just as those here in the US who are not citizens can not vote........uh, er, well, unless the socialist liberals can slip them in that is.

The State of Israel is a Jewish State, and it's reference to democracy is that those who lead the State are elected by the people of Israel. Not for nothing, but given how the leaders of the rest of the Middle Eastern countries attain power, I kinda like how Israel does it.


 
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eternally-gratefull

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Then please move to Israel and stop being a backseat driver

Maybe you can take your hatred and move to Jordan, Or Syria or one of the other USA/Israel hating nations, where you would fit right in?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
(Jer 24:9 KJV) And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.
(Ezekiel 21:32 KJV) You shall be for fuel to the fire; your blood shall be in the midst of the land; you shall be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
..According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
what about Ezek 37 where he says even after all those things, God will again give life to the dead bones, and bring them back again, And be there God and they will be his people. In the land God gave the fathers?
or the many other OT prophets who claim Isreal will be defeated, scattered due to her unbelief, but at a time, she will repent and be restored?


Cherry pic the bible much??
 
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eternally-gratefull

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''and in thee all families of the earth shall be blessed''

Unless you happen to be Palestinian including Christian ones

Yep, they will through christ.

But that does not negate the promise given to one nation.


and who said palestinian christians are not saved? just currious
 
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kaylagrl

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''and in thee all families of the earth shall be blessed''

Unless you happen to be Palestinian including Christian ones


No, that is not true. A Christian Palestinian is the same as any Christian, a non-Christian Palestinian can be,and are being saved. They are having visions of Jesus and are becoming born again. And that is wonderful because where they have come from,they are amazing witnesses for Christianity. None of that has anything to do with the land. The land belongs to the Jews both Biblically and historically.
 
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kaylagrl

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Genesis 17

“I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your descendants after you.


1 Chron.16

He also confirmed it to Jacob for a statute,
To Israel as an everlasting covenant,
18 Saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan,
As the portion of your inheritance.”


Psalm 105


[FONT=&quot]He has aremembered His covenant forever,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The word which He commanded to a bthousand generations,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 9 The acovenant which He made with Abraham,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And His boath to Isaac.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 10 Then He aconfirmed it to Jacob for a statute,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]To Israel as an everlasting covenant,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 11 Saying, “aTo you I will give the land of Canaan[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As the 1bportion of your inheritance,”

Romans 11

for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.


Romans 9

Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, “Though the number of the sons of Israel be like the sand of the sea, it is the remnant that will be saved;



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Persuaded

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​He's started all kinds of antisemitic threads on here. Its full of baloney,100% racism.
I know we are to love our brothers and our enemies--------
BUT, as much as I try, I can not love those who openly hate God's chosen people.
He and his buddy must be some of those white supremacists we keep hearing about.