Thank you for this thread. Have started to read the posts and only hope the younger esp. would take heed.. It is good to be back at cc... and i'm posting not because i'm wise. On the contrary, i've admitted how foolish ive been in many ways, and only hope you do not hurt yourself by making mistakes warned about in both Proverbs and Ecclesiastes esp.. Some see i often post in the health forums-- i hope you dont see this as bragging or showing off that i know a little here and there, but rather that you do not go through things you never foresaw because you were too young, idealistic, naive, simple or stiff necked-- that you go more smoothly in later life, physically, spiritually. I told a younger lady i wanted to write something on growing old based on Ecclesiastes (12), which i hope all have read, but it would be good to see specific verses for those who have time to post more. I just got in but dont think i can stay long. But here's saying thanks for all who strive to encourage others here, as well as correct those of us who have held on to 'wrong' facts or beliefs only to realize theres something wrong somewhere indeed and fix or adjust our eyes and ears to what is needed.