The easy way to spot a false grace message

[dcontroversal]

Sorry EG, your behaviour goes ahead of you. Swearing at me declares the true state of
your heart.

By the way accusing people of sinning specifically and then producing anything is slander.
I have no clue why you even think this makes any sense.

If you tried not to put people in their place so much you would not get into so much trouble.
When you preach about sin, you need to actually no how to make contact with someone
and they understand what sinful behaviour you are talking about and what the right response
is. Talking to a believer and in effect calling them unsaved is judgemental behaviour and sinful

But hey, to you being obedient to Christ is unbelief so I need to repent of my obedience to Christ
and following His words.

This is why you are neither guided by Lord or know what you are meaning.

And you are?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Sorry EG, your behaviour goes ahead of you. Swearing at me declares the true state of
your heart.

By the way accusing people of sinning specifically and then producing anything is slander.
I have no clue why you even think this makes any sense.

If you tried not to put people in their place so much you would not get into so much trouble.
When you preach about sin, you need to actually no how to make contact with someone
and they understand what sinful behaviour you are talking about and what the right response
is. Talking to a believer and in effect calling them unsaved is judgemental behaviour and sinful

But hey, to you being obedient to Christ is unbelief so I need to repent of my obedience to Christ
and following His words.

This is why you are neither guided by Lord or know what you are meaning.

There is no help for this man.. He will continue to slander and ie about people who he does not agree with him. and no one will say a word.

Yet people will still enable him That is sad.

By the way, I did not swear at you You are the ne who did the swearing, and you can not even confess of that.

 

[PeterJens]

Okay so now you have gotten what you wanted from him and the days long war can end because you now have something to accuse him with. Can we move on now and not be held captive to your continued campaign to get this man to see his grievous sins?

As I have said for many months, this is just emotional conviction behaviour,
and nuts. I wish I could get meaningfully annoyed or have a sense of resolution
but in truth, it is just a personality disorder, and nothing will come of it.

I cannot ask for forgiveness for what I said, rather for hurt I might have caused
you. There is always a higher path we can walk, and sometimes silence is the
better option.

So I forgive you EG, you are a victim of your situation and disposition, and I
should know better. We are called only to say that which can help, but I will
defend those who are hurt and damaged by your attacks and abuse.

I do not expect anything from you, because I have never known anything I
can relate to or connect with. I wish you the best, God bless.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Peter, the remark that upset him was the four word remark beginning with "two faced." We can converse without remarks like that, can't we, brother?

 

[PeterJens]

Peter, the remark that upset him was the four word remark beginning with "two faced." We can converse without remarks like that, can't we, brother?

You are right. I am sorry I called someone a hypocritic for being hypocritical,
it is wrong of me to point out hypocracy, or is that actually part of our calling?

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
John 8:44

So what truth do we want to hold to.
That Christ died for our sins, and rose from the dead so that we might have our
sins forgiven and gain fellowship with the Lord of All, indwelt with the Holy Spirit
and walk in obedience to His commands.

Now it is odd that a believer would constantly pursue another believer over sin, when
all they are refering to is the sin we bring to the cross of Christ.

When confronted they lie, obscure, continue to deflect and accuse.
This is just slander and provocation, no innocence or true love, just a conviction.

Thankfully the Lord has shown me the light of His grace, and the hypocracy in this
man, who believes he knows the Lord, yet continues to defame believers and the
Lords word. So he stands condemned, guilty of rebellion in the sight of God.

What hope is there for such as he I do not know, but I know they are like tormented
spirits flinging accusations at people day and night, for no end, dressed up as a person
following the grace and love of the Lord Jesus Christ. But this is not the way or the
fruit of grace, only the lies and delusions of the enemy.

The way of the Lord is to encourage those who bring glory to His name, which I
endeavour to do, Amen and praise the Lord.

Too many only wish to discourage and condemn, expose the desire to know
God and His laws as if they are not Holy and profound, full of wisdom and knowledge.

They are like the lawless world, dressed up nice and caring, but their fruit is
to claim authority, say they the truly follow the gospel and condemn faithful followers
of His word.

In truth their disfunctional dualist theology is rejected and thrown out in most congregations
because it does not work or does not hang together. But here on the internet, they want to
be kings. So they have greater influence than they deserve, because most would normally
just avoid them.

 

[blue_ladybug]

You're a sinner. I'm a sinner. We ALL are sinners. Acknowledge it, own it, repent and move on..

 

[PeterJens]

Yet people will still enable him That is sad.

This is where delusion kicks in. Needle for months, one statement and then
I am so guilty and he is so right, now that is what we call an agent de provocature.

Such loathing and hatred is always a wonder to watch, such long term planning I have
only seen in psychopaths, and you never want to get involved with that crowd.

 

[Grace777x70]

You're a sinner. I'm a sinner. We ALL are sinners. Acknowledge it, own it, repent and move on..

Lol....that reminded me of the diddy song for Dr. Pepper...wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too.


[video=youtube;jvCTaccEkMI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvCTaccEkMI[/video]

 

[blue_ladybug]

Peter, please stop attacking EG. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever, to call him delusional or a psychopath..:/

This is where delusion kicks in. Needle for months, one statement and then
I am so guilty and he is so right, now that is what we call an agent de provocature.

Such loathing and hatred is always a wonder to watch, such long term planning I have
only seen in psychopaths, and you never want to get involved with that crowd.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are right. I am sorry I called someone a hypocritic for being hypocritical,

Sadly, He still does not get it. This is not the reason. He will never admit what the true reason is. So why bother.

PS.. Hypocrite is one word. As she said, THE 4 WORD quote you made is what got you reported.

 

[PeterJens]

You're a sinner. I'm a sinner. We ALL are sinners. Acknowledge it, own it, repent and move on..

Hi blue_ladybug, yes I sin, but to repent I need to know the sin I am repenting of so
I can stop doing it, and know the correct behaviour before the Lord I should have.

Or is this just agreeing with God, because that is all repentance is.

And what if I am repenting only to make myself more acceptable to God?
Surely that is unbelief, because it is taking away from the power of the cross.

Maybe I should fear of repenting and then actually commiting unbelief and so
fall into hell.

I mean these are important heaven and hell issues. It is so confusing, maybe
the spirit that is inspiring this confusion could help with advice to those who
are pushing this agenda.

It is odd because Ezek 18:21 gives me a clue, and it says it is hyprocracy to
not do good and obey God. If you do not obey God you will die and all the good
you have done will be as if nothing took place.

What is a wonder is people have no fear of God the judge of all.
But each of us will meet Him and He will lay His desire on our hearts, so it will
become plain, whether you want to follow or not.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Well, some here call me a hot tamale and spicy jalapeno. I assume either they think I'm cute, or I'm food, or are just referring to my temperament.. lol

Lol....that reminded me of the diddy song for Dr. Pepper...wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too.


[video=youtube;jvCTaccEkMI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvCTaccEkMI[/video]

 

[Blain]

You're a sinner. I'm a sinner. We ALL are sinners. Acknowledge it, own it, repent and move on..

This.... needs to be sticky like seriously it's to epic of a post not to be one

 

[Blain]

Well, some here call me a hot tamale and spicy jalapeno. I assume either they think I'm cute, or I'm food, or are just referring to my temperament.. lol

Heh... well you can sure be a fiery one that's for sure

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This is where delusion kicks in. Needle for months, one statement and then
I am so guilty and he is so right, now that is what we call an agent de provocature.

Such loathing and hatred is always a wonder to watch, such long term planning I have
only seen in psychopaths, and you never want to get involved with that crowd.

So now I am a phsychopath. Do you ever give up dude?

Here we go peter.

YOU SAID I criticize you BECAUSE you want to walk with God.

Will you admit that is a lie. or continue to slander me, and continue to be in sin. I will only ask you once. If you do not confess and admit, then you have proven to ALL of chat you are in sin.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This.... needs to be sticky like seriously it's to epic of a post not to be one

Amen and Amen.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Well, then maybe take a moment to read back and figure out why EG says what he has about you. And what you've said about him. I'd say calling names is a sin, especially labeling one a psychopath when clearly they aren't.. So there's one sin that you know you can repent of. Not a single one of us is more acceptable to the Lord than another. You're no better than me, and I'm no better than anyone else here. People are responsible for their own behavior. If you're that frustrated with EG, then employ the ignore button.

Hi blue_ladybug, yes I sin, but to repent I need to know the sin I am repenting of so
I can stop doing it, and know the correct behaviour before the Lord I should have.

Or is this just agreeing with God, because that is all repentance is.

And what if I am repenting only to make myself more acceptable to God?
Surely that is unbelief, because it is taking away from the power of the cross.

Maybe I should fear of repenting and then actually commiting unbelief and so
fall into hell.

I mean these are important heaven and hell issues. It is so confusing, maybe
the spirit that is inspiring this confusion could help with advice to those who
are pushing this agenda.

It is odd because Ezek 18:21 gives me a clue, and it says it is hyprocracy to
not do good and obey God. If you do not obey God you will die and all the good
you have done will be as if nothing took place.

What is a wonder is people have no fear of God the judge of all.
But each of us will meet Him and He will lay His desire on our hearts, so it will
become plain, whether you want to follow or not.

 

[blue_ladybug]

.................

Heh... well you can sure be a fiery one that's for sure

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Hi blue_ladybug, yes I sin, but to repent I need to know the sin I am repenting of so
I can stop doing it, and know the correct behaviour before the Lord I should have.

.

You sound like the pharisee who knows the words but not how to do them.

It is hypocritical to criticise someone who desires to walk like Christ, and then
say that is our discipleship goal. You are just a two faced blind teacher
who knows the words but not how to apply them.

There you go. Thats your sin, the sin of slander, Saying someone is doing something they are not.

Does that help? You keep asking for proof yet when you are given proof you deny it..

 

[Grace777x70]

Peter, please stop attacking EG. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever, to call him delusional or a psychopath..:/

All this is driving me....