The easy way to spot a false grace message

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PeterJens

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eternally-gratefull said:

Sadly, He still does not get it. This is not the reason. He will never admit what the true reason is. So why bother.
PS.. Hypocrite is one word. As she said, THE 4 WORD quote you made is what got you reported.
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I get everything you are doing and saying, and I reject it as heresy and delusion.

You are a hypocrite true and center. You accuse me of sinning yet have no sin.
You lie about what you are really doing and think this is some crusade against legalists.

But it is you who are the problem. I am sure you can be nice, but I would never get
involved either in your church or with your house group.

Your theory of obeying God is unbelief in the cross is just heresy and evil.
It discourages people from listening to Jesus, reading His word and following.
It creates the idea satan is convicting people of sin of which they should repent, when
it is the Holy Spirit.

So I can never accept your role or authority. And you never want to just leave things
alone, you want to dominate. I on the other hand just want to encourage people to follow
trust and obey Christ praise my Father in Heaven and seek to do His will, Amen.
 
PeterJens

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Well I have said my piece.

That is all I am called to share, Amen and praise the Lord.
 
blue_ladybug

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And for the record, I've learned alot about the bible, and God, from EG. For that, I am thankful.. :)
 
PeterJens

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For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.
Eph 1:4

In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory.
Eph 1:11-12

I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in his holy people, 19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe.
Eph 1:18:19

For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Eph 2:10

In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
Eph 2:21-22

As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Eph 4:1-6

From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
Eph 4:16

Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body. “In your anger do not sin”: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold.
Eph 4:25-27

Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
Eph 4:31-32

Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Eph 5:1-2

Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
Eph 6:13
 
PeterJens

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blue_ladybug said:
And for the record, I've learned alot about the bible, and God, from EG. For that, I am thankful.. :)
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Amen. It is good to learn about God and scripture. May the Holy Spirit guide you.
 
Utah

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PeterJens said:
Hi blue_ladybug, yes I sin, but to repent I need to know the sin I am repenting of so
I can stop doing it, and know the correct behaviour before the Lord I should have.
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You should be praying daily, asking God to increase your faith, love, wisdom and discernment. Ask God to guide your words and steps; this will enable you to see your sins more clearly.
 
preacher4truth

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Nothing but ad hominem and a severe lack of displaying grace, but claims to be the model of grace, a supreme example? Yep, that is what PeterJens does:

PeterJens said:
you...heresy and delusion.You are a hypocrite true and center. You accuse me of sinning yet have no sin...You lie...you who are the problem.

I am sure you can be nice, but I would never get
involved either in your church or with your house group.

Your theory of obeying God is unbelief in the cross is just heresy and evil....So I can never accept your role or authority...you never want to just leave things alone, you want to dominate.
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Just reducing it down to the objective to pronounce the attack by PeterJens. For the record, we'd toss this kind of person out of our church on his ear simply for the divisiveness, sowing of discord and perpetual causing of division.

And of course, next, PeterJens exalts self and speaks well of self, but condemns others, just like Luke 18:9-14.

I on the other hand just want to encourage people to follow trust and obey Christ praise my Father in Heaven and seek to do His will, Amen.
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Not even remotely true PeterJens, you don't 'just want to encourage people' because if that were your objective then it would be what you're doing.

But it's not what you're doing. :)

What you 'just want to do' is sow discord and cause division. Why do I say that? Because it is who you are and what you spend your time doing all day long, and that in a nutshell is the fruit you bear.

Haven't seen an ounce of grace from you, so spare us all of your lying objective that won't come to fruition, and the rambling of your spirituality which isn't coming to the surface.

Now, for my bro's and sis's on here, why not just leave these slandering self-righteous lying trolls alone and let them die off? Just a suggestion -- easy to get sucked into these threads. Let him die off and his sidekicks?
 
Grace777x70

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The sign that we are still babies in the Lord - no matter how long we have been a Christian, been pastoring a church for 50 years, can read in Greek and Hebrew, can quote 1/2 of the NT. pray in tongues for 6 hours a day, go to church every time the doors are open...etc

The sign of us still being a baby Christian is when we exhibit these works of the flesh in 1 Peter 2:1.

( Peter didn't say that we are now all children of the devil and going to hell now )

- instead he says to get the pure milk of the word. The word is the word of Christ and His finished work. Our salvation for growing is in Him only.

1 Peter 2:1-3 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,

[SUP]2 [/SUP] like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,

[SUP]3 [/SUP] if you have tasted the kindness of the Lord.

The answer for all of us - is to grow up in Christ.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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PeterJens said:
I get everything you are doing and saying, and I reject it as heresy and delusion.
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Thats what I thought, You get nothing.

You are a hypocrite true and center. You accuse me of sinning yet have no sin.
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I sin all the time, And have never said otherwise.

And now three times you have called me names, so now three times you have been reported.
You lie about what you are really doing and think this is some crusade against legalists.
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No I did not lie, I proved it with the words yiuo said and showed you how it was slander.

everyone sees it but you.
But it is you who are the problem. I am sure you can be nice, but I would never get
involved either in your church or with your house group.
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I never asked you to. All I asked is for you to repent of your sin of slander.

But hey, I just proved to the whole chat room..

The onus is now on you.
 
Utah

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preacher4truth said:
Nothing but ad hominem and a severe lack of displaying grace, but claims to be the model of grace, a supreme example? Yep, that is what PeterJens does:



Just reducing it down to the objective to pronounce the attack by PeterJens. For the record, we'd toss this kind of person out of our church on his ear simply for the divisiveness, sowing of discord and perpetual causing of division.

And of course, next, PeterJens exalts self and speaks well of self, but condemns others, just like Luke 18:9-14.



Not even remotely true PeterJens, you don't 'just want to encourage people' because if that were your objective then it would be what you're doing.

But it's not what you're doing. :)

What you 'just want to do' is sow discord and cause division. Why do I say that? Because it is who you are and what you spend your time doing all day long, and that in a nutshell is the fruit you bear.

Haven't seen an ounce of grace from you, so spare us all of your lying objective that won't come to fruition, and the rambling of your spirituality which isn't coming to the surface.

Now, for my bro's and sis's on here, why not just leave these slandering self-righteous lying trolls alone and let them die off? Just a suggestion -- easy to get sucked into these threads. Let him die off and his sidekicks?
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Outstanding post!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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blue_ladybug said:
Dude, seriously stop. Just stop. SMH
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He wont stop until people make him stop..

It is getting to be for the birds. He demands we all live and discuss, Yet he proves he has no desire to discuss anything..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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preacher4truth said:
Nothing but ad hominem and a severe lack of displaying grace, but claims to be the model of grace, a supreme example? Yep, that is what PeterJens does:



Just reducing it down to the objective to pronounce the attack by PeterJens. For the record, we'd toss this kind of person out of our church on his ear simply for the divisiveness, sowing of discord and perpetual causing of division.

And of course, next, PeterJens exalts self and speaks well of self, but condemns others, just like Luke 18:9-14.



Not even remotely true PeterJens, you don't 'just want to encourage people' because if that were your objective then it would be what you're doing.

But it's not what you're doing. :)

What you 'just want to do' is sow discord and cause division. Why do I say that? Because it is who you are and what you spend your time doing all day long, and that in a nutshell is the fruit you bear.

Haven't seen an ounce of grace from you, so spare us all of your lying objective that won't come to fruition, and the rambling of your spirituality which isn't coming to the surface.

Now, for my bro's and sis's on here, why not just leave these slandering self-righteous lying trolls alone and let them die off? Just a suggestion -- easy to get sucked into these threads. Let him die off and his sidekicks?
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Thank you. And amen!!
 
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blue_ladybug said:
Well, some here call me a hot tamale and spicy jalapeno. I assume either they think I'm cute, or I'm food, or are just referring to my temperament.. lol :eek:
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Jalapeño...
On a stick:eek:
 
Oncefallen

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closed until I can dig through this one.
 
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