Dualism, the doctrine of a disassociated identity

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A Spirit led life will abstain from sin.

The law is dead to a Christian for they are not breaking the law led by the Spirit.

If led by the Spirit you are not under the law,because you are not breaking the law,therefore the law cannot touch you for prosecution.

A Spirit led life will abstain from sin,therefore the law cannot touch them for prosecution,for if you are led of the Spirit then you are doing wrong,but if doing sin,led by the flesh,and having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof,which some are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.

Not to be harsh but a Spirit led life will abstain from sin,so you are dead to sin,and not under the law,for sin will not have dominion over you,for it cannot being led of the Spirit.

Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Mortify
hanatoō
than-at-o'-o
From G2288; to kill (literally or figuratively): - become dead, (cause to be) put to death, kill, mortify.

thanatos
than'-at-os
From G2348; (properly an adjective used as a noun) death (literally or figuratively): - X deadly, (be . . .) death.

A Spirit led life is dead to sin,and does not engage in sins,for to engage in sins would put people being led of the flesh until they get rid of those sins.

But Jesus did say He will never leave us or forsake us,so if we have received the Spirit,but sin not abandoning Christianity,and Jesus as Lord and Savior,Jesus is still there and it can be forgiven us.
Are you saying you have never broken a single commandment since you've been saved?
 
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ISIT didn't write the Bible!!! You attack the word not him.. you think you are but you're actually testing the validity of the scriptures.. implying they are not true if you find no evidence?
 
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Would you prefer that they bann you and them also for a period? 1 day, week, month year?
Your cult group has been trying to ban me ever since I've been here, and they have been successful in banning some good Christian folk who disagree with them, because the squeaky wheel tends to get the grease around here. Which is also why you are over here squeaking right now, and trying to provoke me and threatening me with the rules. Why? Because I offended your prince, Joseph Prince that is, by me constantly exposing his false doctrine for over a year now in these forums.

So I know, and God knows your plan, do your worst and see what good will come. :)
 
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Why do people attack personal application as if it nullifies the truth in the scriptures?
Because they have no sincere intention in wanting to know the Truth, they just want to accuse and condemn me. :)
 

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Why do people attack personal application as if it nullifies the truth in the scriptures?
another why question- why is that the guy who " does not willfully sin " ( haha) , who wields the " rod of correction", who is so superior to us reprobrate sinners, who freely admit that we are not perfect, why is it that this guy refuses to answer??

I mean if he so much better than us, why is he so unwilling to answer simple questions?
 
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Why do people attack personal application as if it nullifies the truth in the scriptures?

I am not attacking the personal application of it. I'm trying to see what is meant by it in real life.

I can say that Daffy Duck and Donald Duck are the 2 witnesses in the book of Revelation but wouldn't you want to find out where in the world I would get that from.

We can take "isolated scripture" and "apply" our own "slant" on it and say whatever we want.


Did you want to answer? I think it is a legitimate question given what scripture was posted.
 
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another why question- why is that the guy who " does not willfully sin " ( haha) , who wields the " rod of correction", who is so superior to us reprobrate sinners, who freely admit that we are not perfect, why is it that this guy refuses to answer??

I mean if he so much better than us, why is he so unwilling to answer simple questions?
The answer is in post #184 :)
 
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1. I barely read Joseph Prince, definitely don't worship or revile him.

2. Early Christians were called a cult,

3. Hisholly is right I will just put you on ignore.

4.I would rather you fix your attitude and stay than be banned. If I was asked I would do a temp bann and allow you back after you cooled off and actually stop with the name calling and insults.

5. The only reason I even read your post was you barraged in a nice thread and started insulting people. I just wanted to know why,

6. Don't worry I don't plan on posting on any threads you start, but will post if you comment on threads others start and I want to discuss.

7. You still need to forgive folks and get the anger and bitterness out of you.
 

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Because they have no sincere intention in wanting to know the Truth, they just want to accuse and condemn me. :)
no, if you truthfully answered the questions, you would blow up your own theology. ( your theology, not by Biblical standards ).
 
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I never forgive someone unless they are sorry. Gods Only Way is Jesus amen
 
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Because they have no sincere intention in wanting to know the Truth, they just want to accuse and condemn me. :)

That is not true. I have told you before I will not call you a liar and a hypocrite as you thought others would.

Tell us your "application" of these scriptures.

You say that everyone who sins is a child of the devil and then you give this verse.

1 John 3:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

This is a legitimate question - do you still sin from time to time and do a work of the flesh from time to time?

Don't forget that there are lot's of different kinds of sinning g- like malice, lying, deceit, slandering others in the body of Christ and this is just as much sinning as living the homosexual lifestyle is.

Answer truthfully - we just want to be able to talk about the "application" of this verse. It will help others out and we can all learn together.

The reason why I ask too is that young Christians can see what you posted and think - I sin - so I must not be born again and I am really a child of the devil. Can't you see the potential for a shipwrecked faith with what you posted without giving a proper application of it?

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no, if you truthfully answered the questions, you would blow up your own theology.
Nope it would confirm God's words are true. But even still, when spoken by me or by Jesus, you still do not believe them. :)
 

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That is not true. I have told you before I will not call you a liar and a hypocrite as you thought others would.

Tell us your "application" of these scriptures.

You say that everyone who sins is a child of the devil and then you give this verse.

1 John 3:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

This is a legitimate question - do you still sin from time to time and do a work of the flesh from time to time?

Don't forget that there are lot's of different kinds of sinning g- like malice, lying, deceit, slandering others in the body of Christ and this is just as much sinning as living the homosexual lifestyle is.

Answer truthfully - we just want to be able to talk about the "application" of this verse. It will help others out and we can all learn together.

The reason why I ask too is that young Christians can see what you posted and think - I sin - so I must not be born again and I am really a child of the devil. Can't you see the potential for a shipwrecked faith with what you posted without giving a proper application of it?

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I shudder to think how that guy would talk to unbeliever with sincere questions. this ACCEPT EVRYTHING I SAY, NO QUESTIONS ASKED! attitude shoves people away from Jesus.
 
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Never mind - it is obvious you will not be honest with us. That is your choice. Don't be surprised when people question the things you post that will destroy the faith of our young Christians.

If you would just be honest with us - then this could be settled - we could see what you mean by your "application" of some verses you post and then we could all learn from it.
 

gb9

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Nope it would confirm God's words are true. But even still, when spoken by me or by Jesus, you still do not believe them. :)
nice trick cutting off what I said about your theology not being biblical. guess you don't like real truth. real truth. not the fake " I don't willfully sin"garbage you push everyday.
 
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I shudder to think how that guy would talk to unbeliever with sincere questions. this ACCEPT EVRYTHING I SAY, NO QUESTIONS ASKED! attitude shoves people away from Jesus.
Perhaps if we are not going to get any honesty with the questions about these "personal application" of some verses - then we should just post about the love and grace of Christ so that people would not be deceived and hurt by the potential problems with some areas posted.

Maybe we shouldn't be interacting with this type of a mindset because nothing will be resolved and just could lead to strife and continued division by this behavior.

Just post scriptures and leave it in the hands of the Holy Spirit. He will bear witness with the believers in their spirit to the truth.
 
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Perhaps attack is too strong a word. Question suits better?

I am not attacking the personal application of it. I'm trying to see what is meant by it in real life.

I can say that Daffy Duck and Donald Duck are the 2 witnesses in the book of Revelation but wouldn't you want to find out where in the world I would get that from.

We can take "isolated scripture" and "apply" our own "slant" on it and say whatever we want.


Did you want to answer? I think it is a legitimate question given what scripture was posted.
 
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Never mind - it is obvious you will not be honest with us
I have been honest with you, ever since you came to the forums with that false doctrine you copy paste from others. I was honestly sharing the Truth in the words of God with you, proving all the things by the words of God, but yet you do not believe His words. It reminds me of what God said to Ezekiel when God sent Ezekiel to preach and God put His words in Ezekiel's mouth for him to speak to Israel. God told Ezekiel that the people would not hear him, because the people would not hear God's words, for they were a rebellious house. So it's kinda funny how history repeats itself ain't it? :)