The Gun Thread

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Desdichado

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Yeah, comfort does not always mean accuracy for me. I guess it is the kind of comfort in question.

It's just natural for me to point the G19 correctly even though it feels like a piece of plywood compared to a good 1911.

I am 100% happy with what I've seen of the Sig Sauer. I love that gun! I am not a personal fan of the Glock 19, but that was mostly because it was not as comfortable for me (and thus less accurate). That of course would change from person to person.
 
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Yeah, comfort does not always mean accuracy for me. I guess it is the kind of comfort in question.

It's just natural for me to point the G19 correctly even though it feels like a piece of plywood compared to a good 1911.
True enough!
 

hornetguy

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What is the best 9mm handgun on the market today? I'm looking for semi-compact to conceal and carry.
Wow.... opening a can of worms there...:D

You should probably decide what kind of firing system you prefer... Do you want a SA/DA with an exposed hammer? De-cocker, or safety? Or do you prefer a striker-fired pistol? Polymer or steel?

You should be aware there is a point of diminishing returns on cost, as well.... a $1500 Sig is not three times as good as a $450 Glock.

I have two "low-end" 9mm's... My carry gun is a Taurus PT111 G2... 12 rounds, compact, double strike capability, and never failed to fire, feed, eject. I've only got about 800-900 rounds through it, though. I used this one to get my LTC (CHL), and shot a perfect score with it. (not difficult to do, though)

My other cheapie is a Canik TP9 SA... which is a full sized 9mm.... almost exactly the same dimensions as the Glock 17. It has also never failed... but I've only got 400-500 rounds through it.

The Taurus cost me $235 out the door, and the Canik was $325.

There are any number of fine 9mm's out there... lots of people love the ergo's of the CZ series of pistols. Walther makes some nice models. Ruger makes a nice one in the SR9, or 9E.... I don't know anything about their "American" series...

If you want to go high-end, look at Sig and HK.... LOTS of choices...
 

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I know an officer who carried a Kahr PM9 as a backup, he was that trusting in it's reliability.
Kahr was owned by the moonies at one time, I don't know about now.
 

hornetguy

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I heard that it was founded by the son of the leader of the Moonies...

They are nice guns... well made, from my limited experience with them.
 

Desdichado

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Seconding Canik here. I've heard a great deal of good things about the Canik.

Good, polymer guns are having the same revolution right now that cell phones are having. It's getting easier and easier to afford something that holds 10+ rounds and won't let you down.

Granted, there are a lot of terrible guns out there too. Just be careful, but enjoy the process of finding what is good for you.

There was a time where I swore Glock wasn't for me and experience has convinced me that it's the gun I would fare best with if I ever needed it.

Unless I'm in a fitted suit or tight-ish sweater. Then it's a Walther PPS M2 :p
 
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Seconding Canik here. I've heard a great deal of good things about the Canik.

Good, polymer guns are having the same revolution right now that cell phones are having. It's getting easier and easier to afford something that holds 10+ rounds and won't let you down.

Granted, there are a lot of terrible guns out there too. Just be careful, but enjoy the process of finding what is good for you.

There was a time where I swore Glock wasn't for me and experience has convinced me that it's the gun I would fare best with if I ever needed it.

Unless I'm in a fitted suit or tight-ish sweater. Then it's a Walther PPS M2 :p
I have this picture of you being Eugene Tackleberry incarnate. When you get married, it will take you 10 minutes to take all your guns off before going to bed. :p
 

Desdichado

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Yesterday, my girlfriend thought I was insane when I showed her I had the G19 at my bedside and the Walther under my pillow just in case somebody gets to the G19 first.

She called me insane because I live in a safe neighborhood.

I said an armed society is a polite society. :p

I have this picture of you being Eugene Tackleberry incarnate. When you get married, it will take you 10 minutes to take all your guns off before going to bed. :p
 

shittim

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sounds more like being wise as a fox and as gentle as a dove.
There was a time in the colonial era where law required the citizen be armed, bring his musket to church meetings, have
an amount of powder and balls available. Shooting should be required for young ones, they receive it already but receive it incorrectly through the idiot tube.
 

Oncefallen

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What is the best 9mm handgun on the market today? I'm looking for semi-compact to conceal and carry.

Opinions and backsides, everyone is gonna have one. :p


Thank you! There is a gun range near by where I can shoot multiple handguns to see which one's I like best. I will be using it for home/personal protection and for target practice.
This is the recommendation that I would give to anyone purchasing any firearm. Many large gun clubs have weapons that you can rent, put a couple of boxes through each handgun you are considering. A handgun that may feel good after a couple of rounds may bite your hand in a bad way after a couple of magazines.
 

Desdichado

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Yeah, ultimately that's what you've gotta do. Internet recommendations will only get you so far.

That said, it's indisputable that the Glock 19 is the greatest sidearm ever conceived by man.


Opinions and backsides, everyone is gonna have one. :p




This is the recommendation that I would give to anyone purchasing any firearm. Many large gun clubs have weapons that you can rent, put a couple of boxes through each handgun you are considering. A handgun that may feel good after a couple of rounds may bite your hand in a bad way after a couple of magazines.
 

Grandpa

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Yeah, ultimately that's what you've gotta do. Internet recommendations will only get you so far.

That said, it's indisputable that the Glock 19 is the greatest sidearm ever conceived by man.
Right after the Sig Sauer and Beretta...

And then there's the Desert Eagle that I forgot about. And Colt 1911.
 

hornetguy

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except the 1911 in 9mm is sort of like de-caffeinated coffee..... just, why? :D
 

Desdichado

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Yeah, I'm pretty conservative that way.

M&P's are for .40. Glocks are for 9mm and 10mm. 1911's are for .45.

Everything else is the gun equivalent of being trans-gendered.

except the 1911 in 9mm is sort of like de-caffeinated coffee..... just, why? :D
 
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Yesterday, my girlfriend thought I was insane when I showed her I had the G19 at my bedside and the Walther under my pillow just in case somebody gets to the G19 first.

She called me insane because I live in a safe neighborhood.

I said an armed society is a polite society. :p
Reminds me of the story I heard when a police man stopped a 79-year-old lady for speeding. While screening her drivers license, he noticed she had a concealed carry permit and when he gave her license back he asked her if she was carrying.

"Yes," she replied, "I have a 45 on my hip, a 9mm in the glove compartment, a judge in the backseat, and a 20 gauge and a 270 in the trunk."

The officer stared at her in disbelief. "Ma'am, what are you afraid of?"

Looking him dead in the eye, she replied: "Absolutely nothing!"

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hornetguy

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Reminds me of the story I heard when a police man stopped a 79-year-old lady for speeding. While screening her drivers license, he noticed she had a concealed carry permit and when he gave her license back he asked her if she was carrying.

"Yes," she replied, "I have a 45 on my hip, a 9mm in the glove compartment, a judge in the backseat, and a 20 gauge and a 270 in the trunk."

The officer stared at her in disbelief. "Ma'am, what are you afraid of?"

Looking him dead in the eye, she replied: "Absolutely nothing!"

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LOVE it.....
 

hornetguy

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I've decided to send off my 10/22 trigger assembly to a company called Brimstone... They take the stock trigger, and turn it into one of three different levels of wonderful.


I have already discovered that the stock Ruger barrel is capable of at least MOA accuracy.... and that was with the less than target grade standard, stock trigger. I imagine the trigger pull is at least 6-7 pounds, with quite a bit of creep.

For less than $90 total, I can get their Tier 2 trigger job, which replaces the trigger itself, has an overtravel screw mounted, and a reported "glass rod breaking" trigger pull of right around 2 pounds.

I'm excited... I'll probably send it off tomorrow or the next day... should be back in a week.
 
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I've decided to send off my 10/22 trigger assembly to a company called Brimstone... They take the stock trigger, and turn it into one of three different levels of wonderful.


I have already discovered that the stock Ruger barrel is capable of at least MOA accuracy.... and that was with the less than target grade standard, stock trigger. I imagine the trigger pull is at least 6-7 pounds, with quite a bit of creep.

For less than $90 total, I can get their Tier 2 trigger job, which replaces the trigger itself, has an overtravel screw mounted, and a reported "glass rod breaking" trigger pull of right around 2 pounds.

I'm excited... I'll probably send it off tomorrow or the next day... should be back in a week.
Any particular reason you didn't do the trigger mods yourself? I've heard very good things about Brimstone's work, but when it comes to spending money, I am tighter than bark on a tree, so I made the mods myself and I've had amazing success with both my 10/22 rifles. Even with my bullpup and it's goofy trigger linkage.
 

hornetguy

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I usually do my own stuff, if I think I can handle it.... I did a little tweaking on this one when I first got it, but didn't carry it all the way through... got sidetracked on other things.

Now, I'm thinking that I'd like to try one that a real pro did...
 

Desdichado

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Pretty funny. A buddy of mine just put Trijicon HD's on his Springfield XD himself. Screwed up his shot patterns. Everything is to the left.

I like to tinker, but maybe I'll avoid modding sights myself :p