lets look at another example that will indicate what i am saying is true;
here we have the disciples encounter with the resurrected Jesus;
[FONT="]Jn 20;22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:[/FONT]
[FONT="]23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.[/FONT]
[FONT="]24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.[/FONT]
[FONT="]25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.[/FONT]
[FONT="]27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.[/FONT]
[FONT="]28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.[/FONT]
[FONT="]30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:[/FONT]
[FONT="]31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
He gives them the HS. He breathes on them and they receive.
Not salvation. That is NOT salvation. Salvation ,as Jesus said,is believing on the one Jesus Christ.
They believed,THEN LATER, they received the HS.
They were saved FIRST.
Now,why are they told to wait for the Holy Spirit in the upper room? (Remember,You guys believe it is a package deal,with NO NEED for a second infilling)
It is because,we need the power. We need Jesus,and THE SAME WORK that Jesus received when the HS descended upon Him. Remember it says "then Jesus full of the HS went into the wilderness"
You /we are not given a pass. You/we need to raise dead people,make the lame walk,and the blind see.
It is no weak,inferior Jesus that now reigns. It is the same. The same Jesus. The same power.[/FONT]