*****5 Wise Virgins---------------------------------*****5 Foolish Virgins
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The parable is all about to tell us of the preparation and the day of preparation is now. The 5 wise virgins have their oil in the vessel. The other 5 virgins called as foolish (unsaved) has none. But all of them have lamps. The oil signifies the Holy Spirit, the lamp is the word of God. So every virgin wise or foolish have the word of God yet only those who are wise (saved) are the one able to understand the spiritual truths. Unbelievers though has also the words of God yet is unable to discerned or comprehend spiritual things because in reality he is none of his. (Romans 9)
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Some comments on this thread leave me baffled.
Everyone is quick on giving his interpretation instead of going and actually reading the parable first.
If we can't agree on the literal meaning of the parable how will we be able to go further and try to find the deeper meaning?
Do you people understand how a lamp functions?
Everyone is quick on giving his interpretation instead of going and actually reading the parable first.
If we can't agree on the literal meaning of the parable how will we be able to go further and try to find the deeper meaning?
Do you people understand how a lamp functions?
Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
The 5 wise and the 5 foolish,are virgins,who are 10 people that claimed Jesus as Lord,but the 5 wise had the Holy Spirit,and the 5 foolish did not have the Holy Spirit.
The 5 foolish were not unbelievers,for they are virgins,and they said Lord,Lord,open to us.
The 5 wise had oil in the vessel,which could be in themselves,and the lamp could be the word of God,for the Bible says the word of God is a lamp unto my feet,and a light unto my path.
The lamp could be the word of God,and the 5 foolish were not taught by the Spirit,for the Bible says they have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof(Holy Spirit),ever learning and never able to come to the truth,and Jesus said the Holy Spirit will guide us in to all truth,and show us things to come,and we need not that any person teach us,but the Spirit will teach us.
Without a person receiving the Spirit they never come to the truth of God's word,and that truth is to allow the Spirit to lead you so you can live like Christ,which a Spirit led life will not fulfill the desires of the flesh.
The wise had oil in their vessels,and their lamps,which might be oil in themselves,and taught the word of God,by the Holy Spirit,where the foolish did not have the Holy Spirit in them,and was not taught by the Holy Spirit concerning the word of God.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
The 5 wise and the 5 foolish,are virgins,who are 10 people that claimed Jesus as Lord,but the 5 wise had the Holy Spirit,and the 5 foolish did not have the Holy Spirit.
The 5 foolish were not unbelievers,for they are virgins,and they said Lord,Lord,open to us.
The 5 wise had oil in the vessel,which could be in themselves,and the lamp could be the word of God,for the Bible says the word of God is a lamp unto my feet,and a light unto my path.
The lamp could be the word of God,and the 5 foolish were not taught by the Spirit,for the Bible says they have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof(Holy Spirit),ever learning and never able to come to the truth,and Jesus said the Holy Spirit will guide us in to all truth,and show us things to come,and we need not that any person teach us,but the Spirit will teach us.
Without a person receiving the Spirit they never come to the truth of God's word,and that truth is to allow the Spirit to lead you so you can live like Christ,which a Spirit led life will not fulfill the desires of the flesh.
The wise had oil in their vessels,and their lamps,which might be oil in themselves,and taught the word of God,by the Holy Spirit,where the foolish did not have the Holy Spirit in them,and was not taught by the Holy Spirit concerning the word of God.
The 5 foolish were not unbelievers,for they are virgins,and they said Lord,Lord,open to us.
The problem with this one is that, 'virgins and saying Lord, lord...' is likewise not a guarantee that one has been saved or become a believers either. if the foolish were believers then they should have been open by the bridegroom when they called. But it seems they have not been open and the door was shut. Still, lesson is the necessity of preparing oneself ie. to be saved.
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The problem with this one is that, 'virgins and saying Lord, lord...' is likewise not a guarantee that one has been saved or become a believers either. if the foolish were believers then they should have been open by the bridegroom when they called. But it seems they have not been open and the door was shut. Still, lesson is the necessity of preparing oneself ie. to be saved.
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Yet not all the virgins were foolish and once again, these foolish virgins may have simply tried to minimized their foolishness by describing their plight as "running out" so as to look less foolish. As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out - When the five foolish virgins lit their lamps, they discovered the lack of oil. The sputtering, flickering, smoking wicks were a sad revelation. "And perhaps we are to understand that there is something in the coincidence of the lamps going out just as the Bridegroom arrived. Mere outward religion is found to have no illuminating power."
"Foolish" virgins are not "wise" virgins and Jesus did not know these foolish virgins, which means they had no intimate relationship with Jesus which means they were not saved, so they are something else. Just because they are called "virgins" does not mean they were saved and not everyone who is referred to a "disciple" is saved either (John 6:64-71). Only those who continue in His word are TRULY His disciples (John 8:31) so those who don't continue are something else as well. Don't be so naive.
What flame? The foolish virgins had no oil.
So they claim their lamps are gone out. What part of Jesus DID NOT KNOW THEM do you not understand? You are so obsessed with accommodating your doctrinal agenda that you left that part out. Do you that these many people in Matthew 7:22 that Jesus NEVER KNEW were saved also? They claimed they did many wonderful works, yet Jesus refers to them as workers of iniquity.
"Foolish" virgins are not "wise" virgins and Jesus did not know these foolish virgins, which means they had no intimate relationship with Jesus which means they were not saved, so they are something else. Just because they are called "virgins" does not mean they were saved and not everyone who is referred to a "disciple" is saved either (John 6:64-71). Only those who continue in His word are TRULY His disciples (John 8:31) so those who don't continue are something else as well. Don't be so naive.
What flame? The foolish virgins had no oil.
So they claim their lamps are gone out. What part of Jesus DID NOT KNOW THEM do you not understand? You are so obsessed with accommodating your doctrinal agenda that you left that part out. Do you that these many people in Matthew 7:22 that Jesus NEVER KNEW were saved also? They claimed they did many wonderful works, yet Jesus refers to them as workers of iniquity.
Amen! In Matthew 7:22, these many people said, "Lord, Lord," yet failed to do the will of the Father (Matthew 7:21; John 6:40). Jesus NEVER knew them which means they were NEVER saved. Jesus even referred to them as "workers of iniquity" which does not describe saved people. As you said, "the lesson is the necessity of preparing oneself to be saved" *before the door is shut and it's too late.*
Some people have their minds set on certain things to the point where they completely ignore what the text is saying. I am not talking here about meaning, I am talking about the parable itself.
How can someone read the parable and then say that the five foolish ones didn't have oil at all? How can their lamps run out (of oil, of course) if they didn't have any oil?
All ten virgins had oil in their lamps but the wise brought extra oil just in case they will have to wait more for the bridegroom, while the foolish ones didn't expect him to be late and in consequence, they didn't take the precaution to bring extra oil. And he was late because it says in Mt 25:5 it says that the bridegroom tarried.
How can someone read the parable and then say that the five foolish ones didn't have oil at all? How can their lamps run out (of oil, of course) if they didn't have any oil?
All ten virgins had oil in their lamps but the wise brought extra oil just in case they will have to wait more for the bridegroom, while the foolish ones didn't expect him to be late and in consequence, they didn't take the precaution to bring extra oil. And he was late because it says in Mt 25:5 it says that the bridegroom tarried.
Unbelievers may have lamps, but they have no oil or light. Mere outward religion has no illuminating power. Many unbelievers who are mixed up in various false religions will tell you they are waiting for Jesus, yet they are unprepared to meet him, as these foolish virgins and these many people in Matthew 7:22 found out the hard way!
Whether the label "virgin" or the label "disciple," there are genuine believers and there are make believers. Matthew 7:21 - "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. John 6:40 - For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. Obviously, neither the foolish virgins or these many people in Matthew 7:21 were genuine believers. Jesus DID NOT KNOW them.
You departed from the big picture.
I covered all the components of the parable.
Whether the label "virgin" or the label "disciple," there are genuine believers and there are make believers. Matthew 7:21 - "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. John 6:40 - For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. Obviously, neither the foolish virgins or these many people in Matthew 7:21 were genuine believers. Jesus DID NOT KNOW them.
You departed from the big picture.
I covered all the components of the parable.
Because verse 3 said the foolish virgins took no oil with them. They claimed their lamps ran out, yet they had no oil. Just as these many people in Matthew 7:22 claimed to perform many wonderful works, yet Jesus NEVER KNEW them. Their works were not so wonderful after all, since Jesus referred to these many people as workers of iniquity. How could these foolish virgins represent genuine believers if Jesus DID NOT KNOW them?
This is an assumption based on their "claim" of running out, yet the Bible simply says - The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them IN CONTRAST TO - The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. *Nothing is mentioned about the foolish virgins having oil in their lamps. If Jesus DID NOT KNOW them, then they were NOT SAVED.
This is an assumption based on their "claim" of running out, yet the Bible simply says - The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them IN CONTRAST TO - The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. *Nothing is mentioned about the foolish virgins having oil in their lamps. If Jesus DID NOT KNOW them, then they were NOT SAVED.
Mailmandan,
They didn't have oil with them but they had oil in their lamps because they were going to meet the bridegroom by night and that's why they took lamps with them, to see. And lamps burn with oil...They thought the oil they had with them will suffice but since the bridegroom tarried (i.e arrived later than they expected), their lamps ran out of oil.
This discussion is becoming annoying. I'm sorry, I will be harsh with you but...I don't care about your interpretation. You lost your credibility when you proved that you don't comprehend a text with a minimum amount of words in it.
They didn't have oil with them but they had oil in their lamps because they were going to meet the bridegroom by night and that's why they took lamps with them, to see. And lamps burn with oil...They thought the oil they had with them will suffice but since the bridegroom tarried (i.e arrived later than they expected), their lamps ran out of oil.
This discussion is becoming annoying. I'm sorry, I will be harsh with you but...I don't care about your interpretation. You lost your credibility when you proved that you don't comprehend a text with a minimum amount of words in it.
The scriptures say that the spirit of man is the lamp of the Lord. This would indicate that all people have "a lamp" because we all have a spirit. What is in those lamps?
We know for those that are in Christ - the Holy Spirit is inside of us and Jesus said in John 14:16 that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever.
Whatever interpretation we give to a "parable" - we need to filter it through the revealed very clear scriptures on the finished work of Christ on the cross and resurrection.
We know for those that are in Christ - the Holy Spirit is inside of us and Jesus said in John 14:16 that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever.
Whatever interpretation we give to a "parable" - we need to filter it through the revealed very clear scriptures on the finished work of Christ on the cross and resurrection.
S
I don't understand it either.
They definitely ALL had oil in their lamps already. The Bridegroom was late (tarried) and the lamps ran low. Only 5 had extra oil with them.
How someone reads this and comes away with 5 had no oil is frustrating when you want to have discussion on what the actual parable says
No use getting upset about it. I understand totally how you feel though.
The problem is often the deceitful heart of man that has an agenda and is quite willing to manipulate the scriptures in order to make the bible appear to support that agenda. I have ran into this all my life, I have told many of the folks that do this, why not just tell the truth? In many cases it would cause no harm to the person to be truthful and you will be right with God. I think the willingness to change and manipulate the word of God comes from a real lack of fear of God. If we really fear God we should be terrified to change His word because we cannot fool God and He will hold us accountable for it.
The law of the parables (without parables Christ the word of God spoke not) . must be kept in our interpretation if we are interested in finding the spiritual meaning hid from natural man. (The five un-wise) .
In parables such as the one in view. Christ hides the spiritual understanding from natural man while at the same time revealing its meaning to his disciples.
Chaste Virgins as those who do not seek after other gods fornicating with them. Those virgins are used to represent the body of Christ as his church, also called His wife.. She is made o up of many lively stones that does make up the spiritual house of God .She will come down prepared as His bride on the last day.
Multiples of ten (deca) to include a thousand are metaphorical words that speak of the whole in whatever is presented in view. Five is used throughout the scripture to represent redemption. The other five speak of those foolish, saying there is no god in their heart, is why they had no oil which represents the Spirit of Christ, as the lamp unto our feet. .
If any man has not the Spirit of Christ they simply do not belong to Christ.
Ten (deca) is used to represent the whole. Even when 18 is used to represent, all suffered, the word is deka is used to represent the whole..
And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?Luk 13:2-4
Strongs lexicon...1176 deka {dek'-ah}
a primary number; TDNT - 2:36,143; n indeclAV - ten 24, eighteen + 2532 + 3638 3; 271) ten
In parables such as the one in view. Christ hides the spiritual understanding from natural man while at the same time revealing its meaning to his disciples.
Chaste Virgins as those who do not seek after other gods fornicating with them. Those virgins are used to represent the body of Christ as his church, also called His wife.. She is made o up of many lively stones that does make up the spiritual house of God .She will come down prepared as His bride on the last day.
Multiples of ten (deca) to include a thousand are metaphorical words that speak of the whole in whatever is presented in view. Five is used throughout the scripture to represent redemption. The other five speak of those foolish, saying there is no god in their heart, is why they had no oil which represents the Spirit of Christ, as the lamp unto our feet. .
If any man has not the Spirit of Christ they simply do not belong to Christ.
Ten (deca) is used to represent the whole. Even when 18 is used to represent, all suffered, the word is deka is used to represent the whole..
And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?Luk 13:2-4
Strongs lexicon...1176 deka {dek'-ah}
a primary number; TDNT - 2:36,143; n indeclAV - ten 24, eighteen + 2532 + 3638 3; 271) ten