Obedience

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There is no anger in anything I have written. Just truth that you need, but refuse because of your pride.
When you accuse someone of heresy because their understanding of the Trinity is different than yours, you are expressing tremendous anger. That is a serious accusation.
 
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FreeNChrist

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God created a world that is full of peace - we just need to obey the Lord's commandments. We can all have it. That's the way the Lord wants it.
This is the way the Lord wants it,

"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." Gal. 2:20
 
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FreeNChrist

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When you accuse someone of heresy because their understanding of the Trinity is different than yours, you are expressing tremendous anger. That is a serious accusation.
No, I am warning you.
 
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You might only refrain from it because you were commanded not to do it. And I might not do it because I wouldn't want to hurt my Father.
We don't always understand the purpose for the the Lord's commandments. We still need to obey them.
 
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FreeNChrist

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I'm sorry chaps but how on earth have we come from the post of obedience to a discussion on the Trinity?
The author of the OP requested it.
 

BillG

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#88
God created a world that is full of peace - we just need to obey the Lord's commandments. We can all have it. That's the way the Lord wants it.
Did not God create a world that was of peace but when Adam & Eve sinned there was no longer peace between man and God.
The commandments came hundreds of years later.

We only have peace because

Romans 5:1-2


Faith Triumphs in Trouble
Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
 
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This is the way the Lord wants it,

"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." Gal. 2:20
FreeNChrist will point to a few Bible verses, taken out of context, and build a religion around it.
 

BillG

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You might only refrain from it because you were commanded not to do it. And I might not do it because I wouldn't want to hurt my Father.
Well said but I would just like to add God knows that if we do it then it not only hurts him but it hurts everyone involved who does it.
 
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Did not God create a world that was of peace but when Adam & Eve sinned there was no longer peace between man and God.
The commandments came hundreds of years later.

We only have peace because

Romans 5:1-2


Faith Triumphs in Trouble
Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
No, when Adam and Eve sinned, they had no peace till they repented. Each of us can have peace. We just need to obey the Lord. Start out with this:

Pray constantly. 1 Thess 5:17 RSV
 

BillG

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No, when Adam and Eve sinned, they had no peace till they repented. Each of us can have peace. We just need to obey the Lord. Start out with this:

Pray constantly. 1 Thess 5:17 RSV
If you can show me a bible verse that Adam and Eve had no peace until they repented then please do so.

You quote 1 Thess 5:17

1 Thessalonians 5:17
pray without ceasing.

what does that have to do with Adam and Eve repenting?
 

BillG

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Well said but I would just like to add God knows that if we do it then it not only hurts him but it hurts everyone involved who does it.
And those who suffer as a result
 

VCO

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It means that God is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, just like a man can be a father, son, husband, lawyer, and other things, all at once. The Father is the Creator. The Son is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is God when he speaks to us.
I would word it:

The Father is a distinct personage, with distinct functions within the Triune, co-equal Singular Deity known as GOD;

The Son is a distinct personage, with distinct functions within the Triune, co-equal Singular Deity known as GOD;

The Holy Spirit is a distinct personage, with distinct functions within the Triune, co-equal Singular Deity known as GOD.


The analogy that I like to use when people seem to not understand how the Three can be ONE GOD is:

We are created in the image of GOD. Yet there is only ONE WAY that we are anything like GOD in how we were formed in our mothers womb. We have three distinct parts that make up ONE human Being, just like God has three Distinct Personages that make up One Divine Being. We have a Body, a Soul, and a Human Spirit that make up ONE HUMAN BEING. Notice two of the Parts are invisible and only one is Visible just like GOD.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 (NRSV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] May the God of peace himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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If you can show me a bible verse that Adam and Eve had no peace until they repented then please do so.

You quote 1 Thess 5:17

1 Thessalonians 5:17
pray without ceasing.

what does that have to do with Adam and Eve repenting?
Obey the Lord and you'll do fine.