What Happens When Looks Fade? (And Why Are We Still So Concerned About Them?)
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So what exactly are you trying to say, Lynx... That I'm so vain, you automatically knew it was me who wrote this thread? 
I agree that women like Christie Brinkley, Cindy Crawford, and even Jane Fonda are stunningly beautiful.
But the truth of the matter is, they have access to tons of things average people like us could never afford. Their career depends on their looks, so they have to do everything they can (a lot of it unnatural) to maintain them.
Most of us can't expect to look like that when we get to be that age because we don't have the money or connection to stay looking that way.
I for one would love a personal chef, so I'd never have to think about what was for dinner (or how many calories was in it--I'd just give my guidelines to him/her) again.
I also don't sleep much but for some reason, always sleep fairly well in a moving car (not while I'm driving.... Don't worry.) I've always said that if I had money, one of the first things I'd do is hire someone to drive me around for 8 hours a night so that I could actually get enough sleep to qualify as normal.
I agree that women like Christie Brinkley, Cindy Crawford, and even Jane Fonda are stunningly beautiful.
But the truth of the matter is, they have access to tons of things average people like us could never afford. Their career depends on their looks, so they have to do everything they can (a lot of it unnatural) to maintain them.
Most of us can't expect to look like that when we get to be that age because we don't have the money or connection to stay looking that way.
I for one would love a personal chef, so I'd never have to think about what was for dinner (or how many calories was in it--I'd just give my guidelines to him/her) again.
I also don't sleep much but for some reason, always sleep fairly well in a moving car (not while I'm driving.... Don't worry
.) I've always said that if I had money, one of the first things I'd do is hire someone to drive me around for 8 hours a night so that I could actually get enough sleep to qualify as normal.
So what exactly are you trying to say, Lynx... That I'm so vain, you automatically knew it was me who wrote this thread?
I agree that women like Christie Brinkley, Cindy Crawford, and even Jane Fonda are stunningly beautiful.
But the truth of the matter is, they have access to tons of things average people like us could never afford. Their career depends on their looks, so they have to do everything they can (a lot of it unnatural) to maintain them.
Most of us can't expect to look like that when we get to be that age because we don't have the money or connection to stay looking that way.
I for one would love a personal chef, so I'd never have to think about what was for dinner (or how many calories was in it--I'd just give my guidelines to him/her) again.
I also don't sleep much but for some reason, always sleep fairly well in a moving car (not while I'm driving.... Don't worry.) I've always said that if I had money, one of the first things I'd do is hire someone to drive me around for 8 hours a night so that I could actually get enough sleep to qualify as normal.
I agree that women like Christie Brinkley, Cindy Crawford, and even Jane Fonda are stunningly beautiful.
But the truth of the matter is, they have access to tons of things average people like us could never afford. Their career depends on their looks, so they have to do everything they can (a lot of it unnatural) to maintain them.
Most of us can't expect to look like that when we get to be that age because we don't have the money or connection to stay looking that way.
I for one would love a personal chef, so I'd never have to think about what was for dinner (or how many calories was in it--I'd just give my guidelines to him/her) again.
I also don't sleep much but for some reason, always sleep fairly well in a moving car (not while I'm driving.... Don't worry
.) I've always said that if I had money, one of the first things I'd do is hire someone to drive me around for 8 hours a night so that I could actually get enough sleep to qualify as normal.
I agree that women like Christie Brinkley, Cindy Crawford, and even Jane Fonda are stunningly beautiful.
But the truth of the matter is, they have access to tons of things average people like us could never afford. Their career depends on their looks, so they have to do everything they can (a lot of it unnatural) to maintain them.
Most of us can't expect to look like that when we get to be that age because we don't have the money or connection to stay looking that way.
I for one would love a personal chef, so I'd never have to think about what was for dinner (or how many calories was in it--I'd just give my guidelines to him/her) again.
I also don't sleep much but for some reason, always sleep fairly well in a moving car (not while I'm driving.... Don't worry.) I've always said that if I had money, one of the first things I'd do is hire someone to drive me around for 8 hours a night so that I could actually get enough sleep to qualify as normal.
But the truth of the matter is, they have access to tons of things average people like us could never afford. Their career depends on their looks, so they have to do everything they can (a lot of it unnatural) to maintain them.
Most of us can't expect to look like that when we get to be that age because we don't have the money or connection to stay looking that way.
I for one would love a personal chef, so I'd never have to think about what was for dinner (or how many calories was in it--I'd just give my guidelines to him/her) again.
I also don't sleep much but for some reason, always sleep fairly well in a moving car (not while I'm driving.... Don't worry
.) I've always said that if I had money, one of the first things I'd do is hire someone to drive me around for 8 hours a night so that I could actually get enough sleep to qualify as normal.
She has had work done also and looks fabu Your sleep patterns sound like mine My sympathies...
I believe christians are being passively persecuted by just living in America in these latter days because the media and society is catering to the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye, and the pride of life which is of the world and the love of the Father is not in them.
They promote fornication as if everybody is doing it and when someone wants it to be more than just satisfying the flesh because that person really loves the other person ( or so they think ) the other says it does not mean anything.
Then you see unwanted pregnancy and std and any emotional damage as a result. That is what America gets for catering to the outward appearance.
Emerson says character is above intellect, then character should be above beauty too.
I look around and I have to wonder if any one dating sees only a piece of meat, or some status for dating that person which is the same as the pride of life.
Why do women put on all that glamour and allure for the eyes of men when they should be modest in apparel and no make up to find that man that seeks a friend for life?
As you say as the Bibles testify, beauty fades but a woman that fears the Lord is greatly to be praised.
With all that men are exposed to with the eyes, how can women find a man that loves them and not just their bodies?
The only way is to have no sex before marriage; no feeding lust to the dog or to the wolf in the man; that old nature of sin; but sow to the fruits of the Spirit in the man; love.
If there is no greater love than he that lays his life down for his friends, then romantic love is fleeting as the wind, because it seeks to satisfy self no matter how any one slices it; and eventually, someone will come down from cloud nine and pffftt.
So seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.
I am not saying we should not take care of ourselves, but we can be modest in our apparel and appearance that is not putting out there as sex appeal to draw attention. I have seen women dress up to draw attention from the men they like, but get upset because it draws attention from men they do not like, and some call it sexual harassment because of unwanted attention, even though some are actual sexual harassment because they want to have sex with them.
Just pointing out how men and women are being passively persecuted because they have their guards down about what is not really important as they wind up playing the game of sex appeal and the ride of life without actually thinking about how they support that passive persecution of believers living in America.
Proverbs 6:[SUP]26 [/SUP]For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adultress will hunt for the precious life.[SUP]27 [/SUP]Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?[SUP]28 [/SUP]Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?
Your signature.... below
Proverbs 4:23 -- "Above all else, guard your heart... for it determines the course of your life."
If we are to love our neighbors as ourselves, we can't do that by outward appearances either.
One would think that we should stay away from attractive people, but we are to love them in Christ too. I would say that believers living in America needs Christ more than those persecuted in other countries because we need Him to keep our minds on good things and see Christ in attractive believers and unattractive believers as well to love them in Christ.
Because committing fornication is not saying I love you in Christ when causing another believer to sin, even if they want to.
So I would think any believer would prefer to be killed in a persecuted country rather than be seduced to death and thus incurring God's wrath since the Father will chasten every child He receives.
Proverbs 2:[SUP]16 [/SUP]To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;[SUP]17 [/SUP]Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God.[SUP]18 [/SUP]For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.[SUP]19 [/SUP]None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.
Proverbs 7:[SUP]10 [/SUP]And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.[SUP]11 [/SUP](She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)[SUP]13 [/SUP]So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,[SUP]14 [/SUP]I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.[SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.[SUP]16 [/SUP]I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.[SUP]17 [/SUP]I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.[SUP]18 [/SUP]Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:[SUP]20 [/SUP]He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.[SUP]21 [/SUP]With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.[SUP]22 [/SUP]He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;[SUP]23 [/SUP]Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.[SUP]24 [/SUP]Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth.[SUP]25 [/SUP]Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.[SUP]26 [/SUP]For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.[SUP]27 [/SUP]Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
I know a believer will never go to hell, but unless they repent of fornication with His help, they run the risk of being left behind at the pre trib rapture event to be received later on after the great tribulation.
Obviously, we need His help to not judge other people by their outward appearance to love as He would have us love others.
They promote fornication as if everybody is doing it and when someone wants it to be more than just satisfying the flesh because that person really loves the other person ( or so they think ) the other says it does not mean anything.
Then you see unwanted pregnancy and std and any emotional damage as a result. That is what America gets for catering to the outward appearance.
Emerson says character is above intellect, then character should be above beauty too.
I look around and I have to wonder if any one dating sees only a piece of meat, or some status for dating that person which is the same as the pride of life.
Why do women put on all that glamour and allure for the eyes of men when they should be modest in apparel and no make up to find that man that seeks a friend for life?
As you say as the Bibles testify, beauty fades but a woman that fears the Lord is greatly to be praised.
With all that men are exposed to with the eyes, how can women find a man that loves them and not just their bodies?
The only way is to have no sex before marriage; no feeding lust to the dog or to the wolf in the man; that old nature of sin; but sow to the fruits of the Spirit in the man; love.
If there is no greater love than he that lays his life down for his friends, then romantic love is fleeting as the wind, because it seeks to satisfy self no matter how any one slices it; and eventually, someone will come down from cloud nine and pffftt.
So seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.
I am not saying we should not take care of ourselves, but we can be modest in our apparel and appearance that is not putting out there as sex appeal to draw attention. I have seen women dress up to draw attention from the men they like, but get upset because it draws attention from men they do not like, and some call it sexual harassment because of unwanted attention, even though some are actual sexual harassment because they want to have sex with them.
Just pointing out how men and women are being passively persecuted because they have their guards down about what is not really important as they wind up playing the game of sex appeal and the ride of life without actually thinking about how they support that passive persecution of believers living in America.
Proverbs 6:[SUP]26 [/SUP]For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adultress will hunt for the precious life.[SUP]27 [/SUP]Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?[SUP]28 [/SUP]Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?
Your signature.... below
Proverbs 4:23 -- "Above all else, guard your heart... for it determines the course of your life."
If we are to love our neighbors as ourselves, we can't do that by outward appearances either.
One would think that we should stay away from attractive people, but we are to love them in Christ too. I would say that believers living in America needs Christ more than those persecuted in other countries because we need Him to keep our minds on good things and see Christ in attractive believers and unattractive believers as well to love them in Christ.
Because committing fornication is not saying I love you in Christ when causing another believer to sin, even if they want to.
So I would think any believer would prefer to be killed in a persecuted country rather than be seduced to death and thus incurring God's wrath since the Father will chasten every child He receives.
Proverbs 2:[SUP]16 [/SUP]To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;[SUP]17 [/SUP]Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God.[SUP]18 [/SUP]For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.[SUP]19 [/SUP]None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.
Proverbs 7:[SUP]10 [/SUP]And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.[SUP]11 [/SUP](She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)[SUP]13 [/SUP]So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,[SUP]14 [/SUP]I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.[SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.[SUP]16 [/SUP]I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.[SUP]17 [/SUP]I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.[SUP]18 [/SUP]Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:[SUP]20 [/SUP]He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.[SUP]21 [/SUP]With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.[SUP]22 [/SUP]He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;[SUP]23 [/SUP]Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.[SUP]24 [/SUP]Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth.[SUP]25 [/SUP]Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.[SUP]26 [/SUP]For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.[SUP]27 [/SUP]Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
I know a believer will never go to hell, but unless they repent of fornication with His help, they run the risk of being left behind at the pre trib rapture event to be received later on after the great tribulation.
Obviously, we need His help to not judge other people by their outward appearance to love as He would have us love others.
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Thanks for telling me who the third guy is, I had no idea. Lol, but that is because I am out of the loop with pop culture most of the time. That made me think about fame, though. I had no idea who Jan Michael Vincent is. I was astounded when some of my students did not know who Elvis Presley is. I have a picture of him as my computer screen saver. They asked me if he were my boyfriend (I wish) or a famous scientist (not hardly). In the end, looks, fame, money, all of it goes away and does not matter. Although, I will say Elvis always looks good to me whether young and fit or old and fat. In a way, it is a matter of taste. It is rather marvelous that we all have different aesthetic tastes.
It's astonishing to me that almost everyone who was famous during the time I grew up... is dead.
I was in a store last week and the music they played was a roster of like 10 songs in a row... all of whom were sung by someone who is dead:
- Michael Jackson
- INXS
- Blind Melon
- Prince
- George Michael
- Survivor... Etc.
It was actually pretty eerie.
Sometimes it feels like my entire childhood/teen years were all killed off via all these famous people dying.
And yet, guys like Keith Richards and Mick Jagger just keep on rollin'... What's up with that?!
I was in a store last week and the music they played was a roster of like 10 songs in a row... all of whom were sung by someone who is dead:
- Michael Jackson
- INXS
- Blind Melon
- Prince
- George Michael
- Survivor... Etc.
It was actually pretty eerie.
Sometimes it feels like my entire childhood/teen years were all killed off via all these famous people dying.
And yet, guys like Keith Richards and Mick Jagger just keep on rollin'... What's up with that?!
My ex wife would lament that she had that issue. And she did. She had movie star looks (she looked like a even better looking Elizabeth Montgomery) and a mellow personality (most of the time, if you didn't get on her bad side that is) and was not into bravado or bragging.
Because of that, sadly people did not see who she was past those dazzling looks. She had so many other talents in there too.
Too bad. It does affect people.
And curse the world for treating people so shallowly.
Me, I never had the attractiveness like that for it to be a concern. I used to wish I did, now I am glad I did not.
I was to immature. I would not have been able to handle it to well.
The older I get and the deeper I slide into ugliness and the wiser I get, thanks to Gods wisdom, the less I care about looks and the more I can discern people as they truly are.
To me there is nothing more distasteful then a woman, or man for that matter, but more for with woman, then someone who knows they are attractive and is egotistical about it. Or they think they are better then everyone else because God blessed them in that area.
What a turn off.
Conversely though, I sometimes wonder why people who have average looks -not hard to look at, but no beauties either- let themselves go where they look so unkempt or do not care one bit about how they present themselves when they walk out their door.
Yuuch.
Because of that, sadly people did not see who she was past those dazzling looks. She had so many other talents in there too.
Too bad. It does affect people.
And curse the world for treating people so shallowly.
Me, I never had the attractiveness like that for it to be a concern. I used to wish I did, now I am glad I did not.
I was to immature. I would not have been able to handle it to well.
The older I get and the deeper I slide into ugliness and the wiser I get, thanks to Gods wisdom, the less I care about looks and the more I can discern people as they truly are.
To me there is nothing more distasteful then a woman, or man for that matter, but more for with woman, then someone who knows they are attractive and is egotistical about it. Or they think they are better then everyone else because God blessed them in that area.
What a turn off.
Conversely though, I sometimes wonder why people who have average looks -not hard to look at, but no beauties either- let themselves go where they look so unkempt or do not care one bit about how they present themselves when they walk out their door.
Yuuch.
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I read a story online this week about a hairdresser who met a woman whose hair was severely matted and damaged - the woman suffers from depression and agoraphobia, hadnt left her house in months, and let her hair turn into a giant knotty dreadlock, and the hairdresser spent like 8 hours restoring this woman's hair back to normal. It was very touching.
Proverbs 31:30
Additionally i think there is something rejuvenating about the Holy Spirit. For me I choose not to be old before my time. When I start feeling old i replace 30 year old friends with 60 year olds . Seriously though im almost 50 age doesn't matter much to me. Our light shines and they are so blinded by it they cant see the wrinkles
Additionally i think there is something rejuvenating about the Holy Spirit. For me I choose not to be old before my time. When I start feeling old i replace 30 year old friends with 60 year olds
. Seriously though im almost 50 age doesn't matter much to me. Our light shines and they are so blinded by it they cant see the wrinkles 
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It's astonishing to me that almost everyone who was famous during the time I grew up... is dead.
I was in a store last week and the music they played was a roster of like 10 songs in a row... all of whom were sung by someone who is dead:
- Michael Jackson
- INXS
- Blind Melon
- Prince
- George Michael
- Survivor... Etc.
It was actually pretty eerie.
Sometimes it feels like my entire childhood/teen years were all killed off via all these famous people dying.
And yet, guys like Keith Richards and Mick Jagger just keep on rollin'... What's up with that?!
I was in a store last week and the music they played was a roster of like 10 songs in a row... all of whom were sung by someone who is dead:
- Michael Jackson
- INXS
- Blind Melon
- Prince
- George Michael
- Survivor... Etc.
It was actually pretty eerie.
Sometimes it feels like my entire childhood/teen years were all killed off via all these famous people dying.
And yet, guys like Keith Richards and Mick Jagger just keep on rollin'... What's up with that?!
So many of them! It's like they burn themselves out before their time with their lifestyle.
It's astonishing to me that almost everyone who was famous during the time I grew up... is dead.
I was in a store last week and the music they played was a roster of like 10 songs in a row... all of whom were sung by someone who is dead:
- Michael Jackson
- INXS
- Blind Melon
- Prince
- George Michael
- Survivor... Etc.
It was actually pretty eerie.
Sometimes it feels like my entire childhood/teen years were all killed off via all these famous people dying.
And yet, guys like Keith Richards and Mick Jagger just keep on rollin'... What's up with that?!
I was in a store last week and the music they played was a roster of like 10 songs in a row... all of whom were sung by someone who is dead:
- Michael Jackson
- INXS
- Blind Melon
- Prince
- George Michael
- Survivor... Etc.
It was actually pretty eerie.
Sometimes it feels like my entire childhood/teen years were all killed off via all these famous people dying.
And yet, guys like Keith Richards and Mick Jagger just keep on rollin'... What's up with that?!
She was watching a Gaither show, one of those hour long commercials for their videos. Some singers were on stage singing and Grandma was listing off the people onscreen who had already died. :-/
My Mom is beautiful. Always was and still is. Now she's 79 but still very attractive. I feel that she went through the same thing as your ex wife. That's how she judged herself too. Obsessively dieting and exercising worried about wrinkles and even looking the slightest bit older. It was a little hard growing up with someone who placed so much value on appearance. She was and is a good Mother but I did that appearance thing to myself for a long time too. I've mellowed a lot over the years. Not that I don't think that taking care of yourself is bad, it's not. I suffered with eating disorders and I just want to make sure my own children know that they are more than a pretty face.
I could be wrong, but I think a lot of people don't even realize they're "letting themselves go"--it's just everyday life. I had a time in my life when I was caring for someone else's two young children, and I caught a small glimpse of what parents must go through. I don't think I worked out for at least a year--I never had the time or energy. I was stressed out all the time, and always worrying about how I was going to afford things for the kids. I also soon learned why it can be so much easier to just run through the McDonald's drive-thru or boil up a boxed macaroni and cheese dinner, because by the time I got off work and picked them up, the last thing I wanted to think about was making dinner.
If I had continued along that path, I'm pretty sure I would have let my health slide right into oblivion because at the time, I didn't even realize it. I was just trying to get through what needed to be done every day.
I could be wrong but I think so many people get caught up in taking care of their families or what needs to be done in life, the last thing they think about is spending any time on themselves.
Why yes, Lynx, this thread is about aging.
And if you keep going with comments like this, Mister, your shelf life is creeping closer and closer to expiring.
If I had continued along that path, I'm pretty sure I would have let my health slide right into oblivion because at the time, I didn't even realize it. I was just trying to get through what needed to be done every day.
I could be wrong but I think so many people get caught up in taking care of their families or what needs to be done in life, the last thing they think about is spending any time on themselves.
Why yes, Lynx, this thread is about aging.
And if you keep going with comments like this, Mister, your shelf life is creeping closer and closer to expiring.