Can you accept this.......
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yet God says whosoever will
period
there is enough in the old testament to turn the heart to God and not one single reference to HIM as a female
when God said not to make any graven images of Him that would be because He is invisible and Jesus said if we have seen Him, we have seen the Father and that is love revealed, not physical features
it is a graven image to present God as anything other than He is
I honestly fear for anyone who thinks the shack is any sort of representation of God who is holy
you may have missed the message of the shack after all if you think anyone is being condemned by God
after all, God does not punish sin, right?
For those who just know that the people who followed Jesus walked away from Judaism......... Why was Jesus always in their Synagogues? Why were even His disciples sill right there with Him watching the widow deposit her two mites?
To say that because they followed Jesus, they did not still attend Sabbath services ignores a large part of the Bible. Where were the Apostles when the tongues of flame came upon them? And why had they gone there? Even "The Last Supper" was a Jewish ritual they were all participating in.
To say that because they followed Jesus, they did not still attend Sabbath services ignores a large part of the Bible. Where were the Apostles when the tongues of flame came upon them? And why had they gone there? Even "The Last Supper" was a Jewish ritual they were all participating in.
And where did you people get the idea The Shack is anything but a simple religiously oriented novel that a man wrote at the urging of his wife for his children, to show them the hopes and dreams he had for seeing Christ one day?
Many of you have gone off the deep end about a book I can tell you honestly know nothing about.
Many of you have gone off the deep end about a book I can tell you honestly know nothing about.
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The Jewish faction that wanted to kill Jesus did so because Jesus told them He was God. They did not accept Him to save them, or anyone at all. They rejected the Messiah. They believed He could not save anyone. When He was on the cross, they jeered at Him, telling Him to come down if He could save Himself.
No one killed Jesus, he laid down His own life willingly.
No one killed Jesus, he laid down His own life willingly.
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I did "Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:"
Determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God seems a clear indication that it was God's will Christ was crucified. Determinate counsel- who did God the Father counsel with about the crucifixion? I would wager God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
Read John 10:17-18 "Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."
Determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God seems a clear indication that it was God's will Christ was crucified. Determinate counsel- who did God the Father counsel with about the crucifixion? I would wager God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
Read John 10:17-18 "Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."
When the book, The Shack first came out I read it. I had 2 friends tell me how great it was. Ugh! It was anything but!
I did some research on the author and even read his blog. He wrote this book at his wife's bidding. She thought he had such marvel ideas that if he died, his kids wouldn't know what his faith was like. So she encouraged him to write it all down.
So everyday on his way to work and back, he wrote in a pad of paper all the things he believed. And it isn't what we would consider Christianity. That's why he needed to write it down for his kids because they wouldn't have been able to read the bible and come up with the way Paul Young believes.
Many Christians support this book by calling it a piece of fiction. It's not a piece of fiction, it's real, it's Paul's relationship with God - how he sees God.
He's more of a Universalist in his thinking. He was also a part of Wayne Jacobsen's group. I was a part of Wayne's online forum and at first liked some of the things that were said. I remember Paul being on there and thinking at the time that he was off in his theology.
I was also reading some of Wayne's books during that time. One of his books was on one-anothering which I really liked. He had some great insight, but he seemed to be moving more towards a more Universalist type theology after a while as well. So if this is The Shack talking, I'd stay far away from it. Wayne Jacobsen helped Young to write the book because he couldn't get it published. None of the Christian publishing houses wanted to publish this.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-22
Rejoice always; pray without ceasing; in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil.