Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

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mj007 said:
Sirk
eternally-gratefull
wsblind (has left the building)

It seems clear to me that you are defilers.

None of you seem to look at the inaccuracy, or vile judgements in what each other say - do you?

So who is wsblind, Sirk, you apparently know. Was he previously banned? I've seem nothing but vile judgements and twisted humour from you brother.

While PeterJens obviously has a lot to say, and may not be perfect in what he says, or any one of us if we wish to speak about our thoughts and opinions AND yet he doesn't really use your language of speaking back towards you - you look for all the points where he may be incorrect so that you can defile and twist his words.

Is that love, or is that evil? Because it appears to be evil.

Please give me comment numbers or something to prove your points about PeterJens, because I haven't seen what you seem to be dragging people here into believing with you. The devil always 'rallies' support around him. And even if your points are valid, your vile judgements will never be valid.

Utah, you should know better to support such comments. Do you think it is funny people making jokes about someone having a psychotic break? I don't think so. But the people above will, because they don't observe it in themselves that it is ungodly. They think it's innocent and funny, yet their intentions underneath that innocence is far from it. And they know it.

And I don't judge any of you, but I judge the evil in you - because that's not from God. (<>) And many of your comments are pretty ungodly in my opinion. I won't stand by and see it transpire, and for it to be allowed here where we are supposed to try our best to be loving and humble to each other, is not right.

We are supposed to bring each other out of the darkness, or guide each other, or to support each other, and that is all I am attempting here. But if you wish to defile my comment too, then please go ahead.
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Your in the darkness. don't know it. And have a lot of brothers and sisters on this very forum who are trying to FREE you from your own self induced bondage...............I was right there with your mentality for years. and would fight shoulder to shoulder with you. Now I would love to see you free.

And your gut reaction is thinking free to sin. Because that what is you THINK freedom is.

But freedom is actually freedom from fighting sin. And you won't believe....... it will result in less sin!

learn more about the SON.......sin less and less. Learn more about sin and fighting sin......sin more.
 
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mj007 said:
Sirk
eternally-gratefull
wsblind (has left the building)

It seems clear to me that you are defilers.

None of you seem to look at the inaccuracy, or vile judgements in what each other say - do you?

So who is wsblind, Sirk, you apparently know. Was he previously banned? I've seem nothing but vile judgements and twisted humour from you brother.
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My previous name was Gr8grace.

And listening to this garbage attack the Grace of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ALL the time would make my motive change for the worst. So I just quit.

It is hard to watch self righteous prigs, trample all over the King and my friend.
 
A_Friend_In_Christ said:
Why do you guys like to fight over the bible so much and call people names like liar? Show me in the bible where Jesus said go and keep on sinning. It's ok now? Chapter and verse?
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Jesus never told us to keep sinning; but He does tell us to open the door when He knocks, and He will dine with us.
 
All I know is that I don't desire to be anyone's leader on here. I think we all have unique experiences and interpretations of those experiences. I've said before on here what my favorite verse is. "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. But in humility consider others better than you consider yourself."

First of all. I don't think there is a person on this site or even on the world who can live up to it. And this thread proves it. Not one of us stopped to consider anyone's point of view but our own. This entire thread is filled with the vain ramblings of men who are right in thier own eyes. Including myself. And what does it say about us being sinless when we cannot even obey one 2 sentence command in the Bible? We really all should be ashamed of ourselves.
 
I've heard it said that it's a good thing the world hates Christians. Because if Christendom didnt have to fight against a world that hates them, they would turn inward and devour themselves. I think this thread and many like it in this forum make a pretty good case for that.
 
Sirk said:
All I know is that I don't desire to be anyone's leader on here. I think we all have unique experiences and interpretations of those experiences. I've said before on here what my favorite verse is. "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. But in humility consider others better than you consider yourself."

First of all. I don't think there is a person on this site or even on the world who can live up to it. And this thread proves it. Not one of us stopped to consider anyone's point of view but our own. This entire thread is filled with the vain ramblings of men who are right in thier own eyes. Including myself. And what does it say about us being sinless when we cannot even obey one 2 sentence command in the Bible? We really all should be ashamed of ourselves.
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I am guilty. We all are. If we say we aren't ....we lie.

My motives aren't always pure, but sometimes they are. And loss of salvation and maintaining salvation is about people attacking the very character, nature, integrity and virtue of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is a SERIOUS offense to HIM. Not me.
 
wsblind said:
I am guilty. We all are. If we say we aren't ....we lie.

My motives aren't always pure, but sometimes they are. And loss of salvation and maintaining salvation is about people attacking the very character, nature, integrity and virtue of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is a SERIOUS offense to HIM. Not me.
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I get it man. I just need a reprieve from us all sharpening our knives.
 
Sirk said:
That's cool man. How many have you made? Do you have any pics? I wanna see!
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Ive done about a dozen. and One out of the dozen, I wouldn't be afraid to bring to a show. My wife would have to figure out the Pics. I will try to get it posted tomorrow.

You will appreciate this.....I had my father in-law send me some mountain mahogany from P-burg Montana to make my handles. Makes a really nice knife handle.
 
wsblind said:
Ive done about a dozen. and One out of the dozen, I wouldn't be afraid to bring to a show. My wife would have to figure out the Pics. I will try to get it posted tomorrow.

You will appreciate this.....I had my father in-law send me some mountain mahogany from P-burg Montana to make my handles. Makes a really nice knife handle.
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Wow man...that is cool. So do you make the blades the old fashioned way....like pounding them out?
 
Sirk said:
Wow man...that is cool. So do you make the blades the old fashioned way....like pounding them out?
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Yep. I put a new cutting edge on the skid loader this summer, so I am cutting the remains up of the old one and making knifes out of it.

I could cheat and just grind and shape em out, but forging em isn't cheating! My right arm is 2 times the size of my left.....amateur!
 
Sirk said:
Ya....pretty busy. As you can tell from my multitude of posts I've been slacking a little. Lol.
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Iv'e been slacking for a bit too. I try to leave this place and they suck me back in!

It stimulates me to study. Some of the questions people bring up? Are Good and bad. But it makes me study and dig deeper.
 
Do any of us have the right to say whether a person is reflecting the work
Christ has done in them or they are working to justify themselves before the Lord?

Paul said this about himself

You are witnesses, and so is God, of how holy, righteous and blameless we were among you who believed.
1 Thess 2:10

Such a high priest truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens.
Heb 7:26

Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
Matt 10:38

This is a picture to me of someone walking a road and acknowledging where they
have reached. Jesus calls us to follow His example in righteousness, purity and
holiness.

Now it seems many call this calling wrong, evil, twisting of the gospel, legalism,
trampling the cross and Jesus walk.

Now is it possible the scriptures are true and the decriers have lost their way.

Jesus called us to be two things

You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Matt 5:14-16

You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
Matt 5:13

We are salt and light. This speaks of testimony to freedom, love and truth.

I am a sinner saved by grace, and desire to acknowledge the love and power
Christ brings into our lives. So let us bring praise to Christ for His glorious work on
the cross and the forgiveness of sins we have through Him. Amen.
 
Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.
Rom 12:3

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.
Phil 2:3-4

Most contributors here are preachers, pastors, been in full time ministry of one
sort or another, so I am in no way in comparison.

All I bring is my heart, in humbleness, and want to share my desire to see Christ,
love and righteousness displayed more fully in all our lives.

If I have become evil, an anti-christ, a deceiver by doing this in some peoples eyes
they have strayed far from the faith. Christ came to bring us to be one with Him,
which means righteousness, love, purity and truth.

Now if you no longer believe these words as one ex-pastor said to me, "you follow dogma",
then leave the church and start you own group because this is not dogma it is reality.

We as humans will always justify our own behaviour to ourselves.
How do I know I speak the truth? Because the prophets said the same thing, Jesus
said it, the apostles said it and the Holy Spirit says it.

Repent and believe and make your peace with God or await His judgement.
This is the message of Christ.
 
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