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longtrekker

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[FONT=&quot]I suspect Oceanblue is ‘Jack’.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]This is probably his 5[SUP]th[/SUP] or 6[SUP]th[/SUP] iteration that I know of as he keeps getting banned. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]His MO is to snare people in confusing word games..I suggest not indulging him.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I expect he will be banned in due course again.[/FONT]
 
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Yes, I believe sin is an ever present temptation we must combat. I also believe a man that says he has no sin deceives himself. God can forgive us but our sins remain in memory to humble us and remind us we are not perfect and that God has liberated us from them.
You did not answer my question.

Do you believe that once a man is born of God he will sin?

A simple yay or nay will be the sufficient.
 
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To folks new on CC;

I suspect Oceanblue is ‘Jack’.

This is probably his 5[SUP]th[/SUP] or 6[SUP]th[/SUP] iteration that I know of as he keeps getting banned.

His MO is to snare people in confusing word games..I suggest not indulging him.

I expect he will be banned in due course again.
Oh I am not going to speak evil of you. This will not work on me.

And who snares you with the truth? Certainly not the evil one.

And as far as being run off from here?

Well...that is far better than being stoned.

God told me that when evil doers start stoning me for preaching the truth
then I can complain to him.
 
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Besides all that there is more here at stake for you than you know.

You are unaware of that to which has fallen upon you this day.

So what ever you do...do...it is you that will be either rewarded or punished for it.

As for me...I will not commit any sin against you.

No matter what you do.
 
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And when you ban someone who God sent...God just ups the stakes and sends them back.

You should know this by reading your bibles.

Look at all the times they run off and banned the ones God sent?

Where are they today?

They were consumed by their own evil.
 
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pckts

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You did not answer my question.

Do you believe that once a man is born of God he will sin?

A simple yay or nay will be the sufficient.
Well according to
1 John 3:9
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.



so nay, I don't believe that once a man is born of God he will sin.


Here is your (opinion) once again that is wrong:

"If we say we have no sin (before we become a new creature)we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us."



A man will no longer sin ONCE he is born of God. The man sinned prior to becoming born of God. For this reason, if that man says he is without sin he deceives himself.
 
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so nay, I don't believe that once a man is born of God he will sin.
Then what I said was not my own opinion it was the truth.

Because you have to born of God to be a new creature.
 
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pckts

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Then what I said was not my own opinion it was the truth.

Because you have to born of God to be a new creature.
Here is your (opinion) once again that is wrong:

"If we say we have no sin (before we become a new creature)we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us."

This is incorrect because, a man cannot claim he is without sin even after he is born of God. The man will no longer sin, but he cannot claim he has none. If he does he deceives himself.
 
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Here is your (opinion) once again that is wrong:

"If we say we have no sin (before we become a new creature)we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us."

This is incorrect because, a man cannot claim he is without sin even after he is born of God. The man will no longer sin, but he cannot claim he has none. If he does he deceives himself.
You do not have to try to explain to me what I said.

I said it.

I know exactly what I said.

You can read exactly what I said.

And it is all the truth.

Every word of it.
 
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a man cannot claim he is without sin even after he is born of God. The man will no longer sin, but he cannot claim he has none. If he does he deceives himself.
This man did....here I will quote him word for word.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
 
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To folks new on CC;

I suspect Oceanblue is ‘Jack’.

This is probably his 5[SUP]th[/SUP] or 6[SUP]th[/SUP] iteration that I know of as he keeps getting banned.

His MO is to snare people in confusing word games..I suggest not indulging him.

I expect he will be banned in due course again.
How do you accuse someone to God for trapping you in the truth?

Now that is funny....."Oh God He trapped us in the truth help us".

He quoted your scriptures of truth to us and asked us why we did not believe them
therefore becoming a stumbling block to us.

Please God remove him from us....

he speaks to much truth for us.
 
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To folks new on CC;

I suspect Oceanblue is ‘Jack’.

This is probably his 5[SUP]th[/SUP] or 6[SUP]th[/SUP] iteration that I know of as he keeps getting banned.

His MO is to snare people in confusing word games..I suggest not indulging him.

I expect he will be banned in due course again.
You should be extremely ashamed of yourself.

And to make it worse you are 58 years old.

And this is the truth.
 
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Anything a human being
born of God does, will not be sin.

Just like anything that God does , will not be sin.

For example....Jesus is a human being born of God.
Nothing he did was sin.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ,
he is a new creature: old things are passed away;
behold, all things are become new.

All their past was gone.
Their past sins were as they had never sin.
For they have all been washed away by the blood of the Lamb of God.
For as a new creature a new beginning they were now sinless.

And born of God.

As it is written...

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

1 john 1v 8

If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth.

If we say we have no sin (before we become a new creature)we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us.

If we claim we are born of God and commit sin,
we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Jesus was born of God. therefore he sinneth not.
Jesus was begotten of God therefore he kept himself
that the wicked one toucheth him not.
 
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pckts

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This man did....here I will quote him word for word.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

A man born of God cannot claim he has never sinned.

I think you agree with me but are too stubborn to admit ;)
 
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A man born of God cannot claim he has never sinned.

I think you agree with me but are too stubborn to admit ;)
If I agreed with you I would tell you I agree with you.

And if I do not tell you I agree with you it is not because I am too stubborn it is because you are wrong.
 
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A man born of God cannot claim he has never sinned.
Jesus is a man born of God that can claim he has never sinned.

Do you agree ?

Are you one of those who never learn ...not even the hard way?
 
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pckts

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If I agreed with you I would tell you I agree with you.

And if I do not tell you I agree with you it is not because I am too stubborn it is because you are wrong.
Explain why I am wrong then for believing that:

A man born of God cannot claim he has never sinned.

If you can't do it you must agree with me :eek:
 
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pckts

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Jesus is a man born of God that can claim he has never sinned.

Do you agree ?

Are you one of those who never learn ...not even the hard way?
I believe that Jesus IS God, and that he has never committed a sin. He never had to become as you put it "a new creature"

He was perfect in the beginning.
 
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You better be careful I am going to snare you with the truth.

Oh wouldn't that make me a fisher of men?


 
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I believe that Jesus IS God, and that he has never committed a sin. He never had to become as you put it "a new creature"

He was perfect in the beginning.
If you do not believe Jesus is born of God
then who is the Son of God that was born of God?

By the way I am told the Son of God never committed a sin.

Is this true?

Anyone?... feel free to answer.
 
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