The Born of God

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If you do not believe Jesus is born of God
then who is the Son of God that was born of God?

By the way I am told the Son of God never committed a sin.

Is this true?

Anyone?... feel free to answer.
 
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Explain why I am wrong then for believing that:

A man born of God cannot claim he has never sinned.

If you can't do it you must agree with me :eek:
I have proved with the truth you are wrong.

That is better than an explanation.

And if you were right I would have agreed with you.
 
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Saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

Somewhere between here--->
Saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.<----and there

You have to become born of God to get on the new earth.

Where does this take place?

Between here--->Saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.<----and there?

Point it out to me?
 
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If you do not believe Jesus is born of God
then who is the Son of God that was born of God?

By the way I am told the Son of God never committed a sin.

Is this true?

Anyone?... feel free to answer.
John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Christ is born of God, and it is true he never committed a sin. He was Born of God since the very beginning.

He has ALWAYS been born of God, it is impossible for him to sin.


Here is your (opinion) once again that is wrong:

"If we say we have no sin (before we become a new creature)we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us."

Any man (Not Christ or God, since they were born of God or God since the very beginning), can never say he is without sin. Adam and Eve down to me and you cannot claim we have never committed a sin.
 
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John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Christ is born of God, and it is true he never committed a sin. He was Born of God since the very beginning.

He has ALWAYS been born of God, it is impossible for him to sin.


Here is your (opinion) once again that is wrong:

"If we say we have no sin (before we become a new creature)we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us."

Any man (Not Christ or God, since they were born of God or God since the very beginning), can never say he is without sin. Adam and Eve down to me and you cannot claim we have never committed a sin.
So now you agree with me that Jesus was born of God?
Do you also agree with me that Jesus was a man?

Was Jesus a man born of God?
 
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So now you agree with me that Jesus was born of God?
Do you also agree with me that Jesus was a man?

Was Jesus a man born of God?
No I don't agree he was a man. That is why we disagree about whether a man can claim he is without sin.

Do you believe being "born again" is the same as being "born of God"?

I thought being "born again" was when you acknowledge that Christ is God. Many people that do this, myself included, continue to sin. So either we are not born again, or they are two different concepts.
 
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If Jesus was not a man then what was he on the cross?
Or do you even believe that was Jesus on the cross?
I believe he was a divine being and simultaneously fully human. I do not subscribe to choosing one over the other, our God was both. I do not think of this as simply a "man"

Do you understand I want to know this for personal reasons and not just to prove you wrong: Do you believe being "born again" is the same as being "born of God"?

I thought being "born again" was when you acknowledge that Christ is God. Many people that do this, myself included, continue to sin. So either we are not born again, or they are two different concepts.

Do you believe they are the same or different concepts?
 
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So was Jesus a fully human man who's mother was a fully human woman?
Yes while being Simultaneously fully divine.

Do you understand I want to know this for personal reasons and not just to prove you wrong: Do you believe being "born again" is the same as being "born of God"?

I thought being "born again" was when you acknowledge that Christ is God. Many people that do this, myself included, continue to sin. So either we are not born again, or they are two different concepts.

Do you believe they are the same or different concepts?
 
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Yes while being Simultaneously fully divine.
So you believe that Jesus was a divine fully human man
born of a divine fully human woman and God?

Is this correct if not remove any part that you believe is not correct.

I want to know exactly what you believe before we go any further.
 
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Yes while being Simultaneously fully divine.

Do you understand I want to know this for personal reasons and not just to prove you wrong: Do you believe being "born again" is the same as being "born of God"?

I thought being "born again" was when you acknowledge that Christ is God. Many people that do this, myself included, continue to sin. So either we are not born again, or they are two different concepts.

Do you believe they are the same or different concepts?
Jesus was not born again,for only a person that has sin in their life,and turns from it,and gets saved according to the Gospel can be born again.Jesus is the only begotten Son of God which means He is the only human ever to be conceived by the Holy Spirit,where the saints are adopted in to the kingdom.
 
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So you believe that Jesus was a divine fully human man
born of a fully divine woman and God?

Is this correct if not remove any part that you believe is not correct.

I want to know exactly what you believe before we go any further.
I tried to have a real discussion with you, but it's clear after you dodge my question three times and intentionally misinterpret things that you are incapable of an genuine dialogue. Good night
 
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Jesus was not born again,for only a person that has sin in their life,and turns from it,and gets saved according to the Gospel can be born again.Jesus is the only begotten Son of God which means He is the only human ever to be conceived by the Holy Spirit,where the saints are adopted in to the kingdom.
This is not what Jesus said. Do you know what Jesus said?
 
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I tried to have a real discussion with you, but it's clear after you dodge my question three times and intentionally misinterpret things that you are incapable of an genuine dialogue. Good night
This is not going to work for you. It is written what was said.

I am certain even God can read this thread and see who said what to each other.
 
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Jesus said you had to be born of water and Spirit to enter into the Kingdom of God.

Where does any adoption enter into this equation?
 
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This is not going to work for you. It is written what was said.

I am certain even God can read this thread and see who said what to each other.
It is going to work for me that I am going to leave CC for tonight and get away from you.

I will turn to google search tomorrow to figure out the relationship between "born again" and "born of God"
 
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It is going to work for me that I am going to leave CC for tonight and get away from you.

I will turn to google search tomorrow to figure out the relationship between "born again" and "born of God"
Everything you said to me is now a matter of record in heaven.
 
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Everything you said to me is now a matter of record in heaven.
A matter of record in heaven that I stayed up late to discuss The Bible with fellow Christians?

I hope so :eek:
 
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There is not going to be any sin on the new earth.

Do you believe God is going to let a soul on there that is going to commit sin?

Especially after all He has been through here with His first creation?

Do any of you believe He will?
 
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