I have proved with the truth you are wrong.Explain why I am wrong then for believing that:
A man born of God cannot claim he has never sinned.
If you can't do it you must agree with me![]()
If you do not believe Jesus is born of God
then who is the Son of God that was born of God?
By the way I am told the Son of God never committed a sin.
Is this true?
Anyone?... feel free to answer.
So now you agree with me that Jesus was born of God?◄ John 1:1 ►
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Christ is born of God, and it is true he never committed a sin. He was Born of God since the very beginning.
He has ALWAYS been born of God, it is impossible for him to sin.
Here is your (opinion) once again that is wrong:
"If we say we have no sin (before we become a new creature)we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us."
Any man (Not Christ or God, since they were born of God or God since the very beginning), can never say he is without sin. Adam and Eve down to me and you cannot claim we have never committed a sin.
So now you agree with me that Jesus was born of God?
Do you also agree with me that Jesus was a man?
Was Jesus a man born of God?
No I don't agree he was a man.
If Jesus was not a man then what was he on the cross?
Or do you even believe that was Jesus on the cross?
I believe he was a divine being and simultaneously fully human.
So was Jesus a fully human man who's mother was a fully human woman?
So you believe that Jesus was a divine fully human manYes while being Simultaneously fully divine.
Yes while being Simultaneously fully divine.
Do you understand I want to know this for personal reasons and not just to prove you wrong: Do you believe being "born again" is the same as being "born of God"?
I thought being "born again" was when you acknowledge that Christ is God. Many people that do this, myself included, continue to sin. So either we are not born again, or they are two different concepts.
Do you believe they are the same or different concepts?
So you believe that Jesus was a divine fully human man
born of a fully divine woman and God?
Is this correct if not remove any part that you believe is not correct.
I want to know exactly what you believe before we go any further.
This is not what Jesus said. Do you know what Jesus said?Jesus was not born again,for only a person that has sin in their life,and turns from it,and gets saved according to the Gospel can be born again.Jesus is the only begotten Son of God which means He is the only human ever to be conceived by the Holy Spirit,where the saints are adopted in to the kingdom.
This is not going to work for you. It is written what was said.I tried to have a real discussion with you, but it's clear after you dodge my question three times and intentionally misinterpret things that you are incapable of an genuine dialogue. Good night
This is not going to work for you. It is written what was said.
I am certain even God can read this thread and see who said what to each other.
It is going to work for me that I am going to leave CC for tonight and get away from you.
I will turn to google search tomorrow to figure out the relationship between "born again" and "born of God"
Everything you said to me is now a matter of record in heaven.