Jesus or Paul?

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I answered all of this in the thread on woman's pastors but you keep on wanting to bring it up here. I guess I'll just have to ignore you.
Well I haven't read that thread, so there you go. :)
 
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If GOD only accepts perfection,why did JESUS come to earth?
:eek:Sorry about that,I meant to say,If GOD accepts imperfection,why did JESUS come to earth?:)
;). I think the way you put it the first time makes more sense.
Ummm....the whole point of Jesus coming to earth was to make the imperfect perfect thru Himself for whoever believed on Him. That right there makes the most sense and is the most biblical of the three. Lol
 
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In fact, if ever there WAS a case to be made for women being silent in church, it would have, hands down, been THAT one!

You go girl.
Now about that dress issue...No. I won't ask. (Was going to ask if you wearing anything at all.) But I won't.
 
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Admittedly not been through all 10 pages so someone else may have already said something similar / explained where I'm going wrong, but my view has been something like:

We're not under the law as such anymore, but it's an ideal. We all end up sinning somehow (hence "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"). It isn't that we're going to get punished for failing at it anymore, but rather that we should try to lead good lives according to how we have been taught, and that Jesus is there to save us when we have done something wrong.
 
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It's okay stan. He will get himself kicked out, just as he always does.
 
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It's okay stan. He will get himself kicked out, just as he always does.
I know moderation is lax here but if he keeps getting kicked out for the same thing then he should stay kicked out. There's no room for that type of innuendo on a Christian forum.
 
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Admittedly not been through all 10 pages so someone else may have already said something similar / explained where I'm going wrong, but my view has been something like:

We're not under the law as such anymore, but it's an ideal. We all end up sinning somehow (hence "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"). It isn't that we're going to get punished for failing at it anymore, but rather that we should try to lead good lives according to how we have been taught, and that Jesus is there to save us when we have done something wrong.

It's nice to meet you MR.
It actually turns into much more than that!
He begins to work in us to grow us in virtue, to increase our humility, to give us victory over the enemies in us that torment us and others, like pride that leads to anger and hurt feelings, self will, selfish ambition. He causes us to stop murdering in our heart.
I can't explain how He does it, but when I stopped trying to be good and just trusted Him to do it, He began to give me great victories over these tormentors in me.
 
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I know moderation is lax here but if he keeps getting kicked out for the same thing then he should stay kicked out. There's no room for that type of innuendo on a Christian forum.
I agree. He has problems though. I just ignore him and pray for him.
 
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Well to quote Rudyard Kipling: "You're a better man than I am Gunga Din".
Oh, Kipling! I read a poem by him that I absolutely fell in love with and you just reminded me that I wanted to look for more by him! Have you read...I think it's called The Gods of the Copybook?
 
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Oh, Kipling! I read a poem by him that I absolutely fell in love with and you just reminded me that I wanted to look for more by him! Have you read...I think it's called The Gods of the Copybook?
I grew up with his poem IF on my wall as a teenager and that's about all I really knew of him besides this quote.
 

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And from the poem I read by him : and the burnt fools bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire.

If I had to sum the poem up, it's about...social "experimenting".
 
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But if you read it, it helps to know what copybooks were. They were books that had a quote at the top of the page, then the child would write it over and over again underneath to practice writing, penmanship, etc. But they would also be like...wise quotes - bible verses, adages and such, to teach them something too.
 
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See there stan, he's banned already. Even faster than the last time.