Scriptures for revival ???

[Stephen63]

It is very interesting that in James's examples of faith "being made alive" by a work or a corresponding action. Both Rahab and Abraham each did a one time corresponding action to demonstrate their faith.

Abraham believed God and offered up Isaac on the alter. Rahab received the spies. Both one time events in their life - God calls this faith in action.

Let's look in the scriptures to see if you're correct, or if you're still spreading falsehood.

Heb 11:8By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed by going out to a place which he was to receive for an inheritance; and he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9By faith he lived as an alien in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, fellow heirs of the same promise; 10for he was looking for the city which has foundations, whose architect and builder is God.

Abraham did this all of his life, not just one time.

Rahab hid the spies..... but she is also one of the few women mentioned in the linage of Christ.

Sounds to me she did more than one act of faith.

Well, I guess we have our answer.

 

[wsblind]

Let's look in the scriptures to see if you're correct, or if you're still spreading falsehood.

Heb 11:8By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed by going out to a place which he was to receive for an inheritance; and he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9By faith he lived as an alien in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, fellow heirs of the same promise; 10for he was looking for the city which has foundations, whose architect and builder is God.

Abraham did this all of his life, not just one time.

Rahab hid the spies..... but she is also one of the few women mentioned in the linage of Christ.

Sounds to me she did more than one act of faith.

Well, I guess we have our answer.

Bruce specifically said," In JAMES example."

 

[Stephen63]

To answer the OP..... there's no prophecy in the Bible for an end-times massive revival.

The only ones prophesying that to the best of my knowledge are the televangelists.

The falling away, or apostasy is prophesied in scripture.

2 Thessalonians 2:3​

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New International Version​

Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

New Living Translation​

Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.

English Standard Version​

Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

Berean Study Bible​

Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed.

Berean Literal Bible​

No one should deceive you in any way, because it is not until the apostasy shall have come first, and the man of lawlessness shall have been revealed--the son of destruction,

New American Standard Bible ​

Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

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[Rockrz]

Let's look in the scriptures to see if you're correct, or if you're still spreading falsehood

You don't reckon the Book of James is... false, do ya???

To answer the OP..... there's no prophecy in the Bible for an end-times massive revival.

The only ones prophesying that to the best of my knowledge are the televangelists.

The falling away, or apostasy is prophesied in scripture.

I didn't think there were any promises for mass revival... I know about some verses that speak of a falling away, false teachers, and all that but I just wanted to see if anybody knew of any promises of mass revival.

I keep hearing popular TV preachers talk about this so I guess they represent the apostate church and the "revival" they are speaking of is people falling away from the faith into the one world religion.

Speaking of globalism and the formation of all religions coming together (thanks to the cathlikcz pope) into a one world religion... now that's definitely a revival, but it's in reverse as it's taking people away from the Lord.

The deception is strong there for those that are not grounded in God's written Word, and those folks talk dat smack against you if you actually believe the written Word of God.

That's alright, I'll cast my care upon the Lord, brush the dust off against them and keep on walkin with Jesus! Yee haw!

Meanwhile, if anybody has any verses that promise great revival I'd like to see 'em...

 

[Rockrz]

Get to know Paul and you will get revelation of the gospel of the grace

I'm called to walk with the Lord Jesus Christ... He and His Apostles did not teach the so called "gospel of grace".

Jesus and the Apostles taught the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. That's what Jesus said, and that settles that... lest someone wants to call Jesus a liar. That's getting to be quite popular these days.

Ephesians 2:19-22
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Some today believe modern apostles can actually bring mankind "new" revelation that is not actually taught in God's written Word... that one of satan's slickest tricks and some of his very finest deception as this enables him to insert teaching into the minds of un-discerning Christians to deceive them whilst making it all sound so good - scripture twisting which isn't new as satan is still doing the same thing he did in the garden and when he tried to get Jesus to sin.

Hath the Lord said???

 

[Grace777x70]

Originally Posted by Stephen63

Let's look in the scriptures to see if you're correct, or if you're still spreading falsehood.

Bruce specifically said," In JAMES example."[/QUOTE]

Yes....I did say in "James example". This is the kind of deceitfulness that reminds me to keep doing what Paul said to do with this type of behavior is continually being done. We are to "mark them" and "avoid them." I have chosen never to interact with this type of behavior until I see repentance.

Malice and slander is a work of the flesh and those that do such things are no different then those that live the homosexual lifestyle. They are in the same lists.

There is apostasy because some so-called pastors are walking after the flesh all the time in their malice, slandering of others in the body of Christ and in their deceit.

Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

 

[Stephen63]

Originally Posted by Stephen63

Let's look in the scriptures to see if you're correct, or if you're still spreading falsehood.

Bruce specifically said," In JAMES example."[/QUOTE]

Yes....I did say in "James example". This is the kind of deceitfulness that reminds me to keep doing what Paul said to do with this type of behavior is continually being done. We are to "mark them" and "avoid them." I have chosen never to interact with this type of behavior until I see repentance.

Malice and slander is a work of the flesh and those that do such things are no different then those that live the homosexual lifestyle. They are in the same lists.

There is apostasy because some so-called pastors are walking after the flesh all the time in their malice, slandering of others in the body of Christ and in their deceit.

Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Here's what you wrote:

It is very interesting that in James's examples of faith "being made alive" by a work or a corresponding action.Both Rahab and Abraham each did a one time corresponding action to demonstrate their faith.

I didn't have a problem with James..... I had a problem with you saying they had a ONE-TIME action to prove their faith.

A true christian proves their faith every day.

"The just shall live by faith"

 

[Grace777x70]

It is very interesting that in James's examples of faith "being made alive" by a work or a corresponding action. Both Rahab and Abraham each did a one time corresponding action to demonstrate their faith.

Abraham believed God and offered up Isaac on the alter. Rahab received the spies. Both one time events in their life - God calls this faith in action.


James 2:20-25 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?

[SUP]21 [/SUP] Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar?

[SUP]22[/SUP]You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected;

[SUP]23 [/SUP] and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS," and he was called the friend of God.

[SUP]24 [/SUP] You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.

[SUP]25 [/SUP] In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way?

Paul and James completely go together and do not cancel each other out.

We do the very same thing when we hear the message of Christ and we believe and then God seals us with the Holy Spirit. This is our faith with a corresponding action or a "work".

Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,

Jesus said to do the work of God was to believe in the Son.

Romans 10:8-10 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

[SUP]9 [/SUP] that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

[SUP]10[/SUP]for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

This is faith with corresponding action - or a work. This is how we are saved by grace through faith just like Paul said.

And this shows that we are declared righteous by believing the message of Christ's work at the cross and resurrection - not because of any works-righteousness which religion tries to get us to believe.

The process for salvation is simple and if people would believe in Christ's finished work on the cross then we can experience true "revival" that the OP is looking for. It's time to repent and believe the gospel just like Jesus said to do in Mark 1:15

True biblical belief is of the heart - not in the head or mind. God looks on the heart - man look on the outward appearance.

Getting "saved" is simple.

Romans 10:9-10 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

[SUP]10 [/SUP] for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

The process is simple too.

1) we hear the message of Christ - the gospel of our salvation in Him

2) we believe the message from our hearts

3) we were sealed with the Holy Spirit ( Jesus said in John 14:16 that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever - now was Jesus lying or is he like a "bait and switch" car salesman that has "fine print" which He doesn't talk about )

Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, = 1) the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, = 2) you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, = 3)

you were sealed = aorist indicative tense / passive voice = a one time event in the past.

Passive voice = the sealing was not done by us but by an outside force - the Holy Spirit Himself.

The true message of the grace of God in Christ's finished work for righteousness and living is a stumbling block for those that think they can create and maintain their own D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness.

They will fight against the gospel of the grace of God in Christ because the truth of Christ's work on the cross and resurrection disqualifies their own efforts to save themselves. They are the very ones denying the work of Christ and our Lord.

 

[BeyondET]

To answer the OP..... there's no prophecy in the Bible for an end-times massive revival.

The only ones prophesying that to the best of my knowledge are the televangelists.

The falling away, or apostasy is prophesied in scripture.

2 Thessalonians 2:3​

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Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version​

Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

New Living Translation​

Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.

English Standard Version​

Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

Berean Study Bible​

Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed.

Berean Literal Bible​

No one should deceive you in any way, because it is not until the apostasy shall have come first, and the man of lawlessness shall have been revealed--the son of destruction,

New American Standard Bible ​

Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

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If there was then the narrow gate wouldn't be called narrow.

 

[BeyondET]

Proverbs 19:11

JPS tanakah 1917
It is the discretion of a man to be slow to anger, And it is his glory to pass over a transgression

 

[Rockrz]

If there was then the narrow gate wouldn't be called narrow.

Good point... although some today would say Jesus was talking to the Jews and that narrow gate business does not apply to anyone who is not a Jew according to the flesh.

 

[BeyondET]

Good point... although some today would say Jesus was talking to the Jews and that narrow gate business does not apply to anyone who is not a Jew according to the flesh.

huh I haven't quite heard some speak of it in that way, ive read in scripture about Jesus mentioning a gate or door per say and his sheep enter into the fold.

 

[Rockrz]

Beware of those that contradict what Jesus says... He is the One Who will judge all men:

Matthew 7:13-21
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Some will claim doing the Lord's will is "law" and "legalism"... which is foolishness!

Philippians 2:13
For it is God which works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

 

[Rockrz]

Meanwhile, if anybody has any verses that promise great revival I'd like to see 'em...

 

[Grace777x70]

How about all the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord? When will this happen?

 

[Rockrz]

Already has...

Titus 2:11
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh (see Hebrews 10:29, Zechariah 12:10)

Grace is not just something God did as many teach today... Grace is a Person. He is the Holy Spirit of God. Grace is God's presence and man does have the ability to reject Him and choose to walk after the flesh, thus turning away.

Of course the Lord desires mercy over judgement... but some never turn away from walking after the flesh and they think they are still going to Heaven and silly TV preachers do not teach the correction that is found in the New Covenant and lead people to believe (either by inferring or saying it outright) that it matters not how one lives after confessing Jesus... they will go to Heaven anyway.

This is why we are seeing a growing number of people living like alley cats claiming to be Christians living after the flesh and taking pleasure in the darkness of this present age. Sad.

 

[Grace777x70]

Already has...

Titus 2:11
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh (see Hebrews 10:29, Zechariah 12:10)

Grace is not just something God did as many teach today... Grace is a Person. He is the Holy Spirit of God. Grace is God's presence and man does have the ability to reject Him and choose to walk after the flesh, thus turning away.

Of course the Lord desires mercy over judgement... but some never turn away from walking after the flesh and they think they are still going to Heaven and silly TV preachers do not teach the correction that is found in the New Covenant and lead people to believe (either by inferring or saying it outright) that it matters not how one lives after confessing Jesus... they will go to Heaven anyway.

This is why we are seeing a growing number of people living like alley cats claiming to be Christians living after the flesh and taking pleasure in the darkness of this present age. Sad.

I agree with a lot of this. I also believe today is a product of being preached a works-based religion that replaces the very grace of God in Christ needed to help us to grow in Christ.

I believe a lot of sincere believers have left the church ( not Jesus ) because they could not live this religious Christian life that was being preached to them. They loved Jesus " in their heart" but they didn't want to be a hypocrite so they backed away from the organized church.

Then there is the group that struggled with a certain sin and were never taught about grace properly and so they left because they were defeated. Constantly feeling condemned and guilty and full of shame. The legalists keep preaching at them to change!

The only change that is effective is from the true manifestation of the life of Jesus that is already in us - in our new creation and that only comes with the message of the gospel of the grace of Christ.

I believe there are thousands of Christians like this but I also believe the Lord is bringing them back to Him - only this time it will be based on the true knowledge of Him and His love and grace for them.


It is important for those prodigals to be met at the door by the Father and not the older judgemental works-based brother.

 

[Depleted]

Agreed. I'm doing exploits (a bold or daring feat) all the time.

So, I'm still wanting to see some promises in God's Word that specifically promise that there will be massive revival just before Jesus catches away His faithful...

Anybody got a list?

You're just one of those guys who likes to toot your own horn, huh? Nothing worth learning here, and you're not interested in learning, so this is wasted time.

Off to Ignore for you.

 

[stonesoffire]

Hag 2:1　 On the twenty-first day of the seventh month, this message from the LORD came by Haggai the prophet:　


Hag 2:2　 "Speak to Shealtiel's son Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, to Jehozadak's son Joshua, the high priest, and to the rest of the people, asking,　


Hag 2:3　 'Who is left among you who saw this house in its former glory? And what does it look like now? From what you can see, it seems like nothing, doesn't it?　


Hag 2:4　 Now be strong, Zerubbabel,' declares the LORD, 'and be strong, Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and be strong, all you people of the land,' declares the LORD. 'Go to work, because I am with you,' declares the LORD of the Heavenly Armies.
　
Hag 2:5　 'My Spirit continues to dwell among you, according to the covenant I established when you came out from Egypt. Don't be afraid!　


Hag 2:6　 'For this is what the LORD of the Heavenly Armies says: "Once more, in a little while, I will make the heavens, the earth, the sea, and the dry land to shake.　


Hag 2:7　 I will shake all nations, and the One desired by all nations will come. Then I will fill this house with glory," says the LORD of the Heavenly Armies.　


Hag 2:8　 '"The silver belongs to me, as does the gold," declares the LORD of the Heavenly Armies.
　
Hag 2:9　 "The glory of this present house will be greater than was the former," declares the LORD of the Heavenly Armies. "And in this place I will grant peace," declares the LORD of the Heavenly Armies.'
　
Blessings for a Defiled People
Hag 2:10　 On the twenty-fourth day of the ninth month of the second year of the reign of King Darius, this message from the LORD came to Haggai the prophet:　


Hag 2:11　 "This is what the LORD of the Heavenly Armies says: 'Ask the priests about what the Law says:　


Hag 2:12　 If a man carries consecrated meat in the folds of his garment, and if his garment touches bread, stew, wine, oil, or any other edible thing, will these things become consecrated?'" The priests answered, "No."
　
Hag 2:13　 So Haggai responded, "If someone who is unclean because of contact with a dead body were to touch any of these things, would they become unclean?" The priests responded, "They would be unclean."　


Hag 2:14　 Then Haggai answered, "'That's how I look at this people and this nation,' declares the LORD. 'And that's how it is with everything they undertake and with what they offer there—it is unclean.　


Hag 2:15　 "'Pay attention from now on to how things used to be before one stone had been laid upon another in the Temple of the LORD.　


Hag 2:16　 When someone came to a pile of grain to get twenty bushels, there were only ten. Or when someone approached the wine press to siphon out 50 measures, there were only twenty.
　
Hag 2:17　 I punished you and everything that you undertook—with scorching wind, with mildew, and with hail, and you still did not return to me,' declares the LORD.　


Hag 2:18　 "'Pay attention from now on, from this twenty-fourth day of the ninth month, when the foundation of the LORD's Temple was laid. Pay attention!
　
Hag 2:19　 Is there seed left in the granary? Up until now, neither the vine, the fig tree, the pomegranate, nor the olive tree has borne fruit, but from this very day I will bless you.'"　


Zerubbabel Chosen as a Signet
Hag 2:20　 This message from the LORD came a second time to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month:　


Hag 2:21　 "Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah. Tell him: 'I am going to shake the heavens and the earth.　


Hag 2:22　 I will overthrow royal thrones. I will annihilate the strength of national governments. I will overthrow chariots along with those who drive them. Both horses and their riders will fall, each one by means of his comrade's weapon.　


Hag 2:23　 On that day,' declares the LORD of the Heavenly Armies, 'I will take you, my servant Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel,' declares the LORD, 'and I will set you in place like a signet ring. For I have chosen you,' declares the LORD of the Heavenly Armies."　

 

[stonesoffire]

And the 30 fold, 60 fold, and 100 fold.