In another thread, some religious minded person claims God refused to deliver Paul by saying "My grace is sufficient"... and when I pointed out that Paul did receive deliverance, they said this:
To which I reply... yes, those were a great many afflictions the Lord deliver Paul out of... concerning the false claim that God told Paul He refused to deliver Him by saying "My grace is sufficient"... did anybody ever stop and think what we receive thru grave when we got born again and translated from darkness into the Kingdom of God's Dear Son??? (Colossians 1:13)
We became IN CHRIST and received citizenship in God's Kingdom where we were raised up to sit in heavenly places in Christ Jesus, far above all principality power and might and dominion (Ephesians 1:19-21)
In the account some claim God told Paul He refused to deliver Paul... it clearly states that it was not sickness but a "messenger of satan" (2 Corinthians 12:7) meaning... wait for it... it was a devil!
This simply means satan assigned a devil to continually oppose Paul to attempt to prevent Paul from being successful in turning as many to Christ as possible and to try and prevent churches from being established.
Now, we know God does not call a man to go do something and then turn around and come against the man to prevent him from doing what the Lord told him to go do, right? Surely even religious people can understand God is not a schizophrenic! God is not opposing Paul here...
Reckon Paul did not know what Jesus said in the Great Commission when He said "these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils (Mark 16:17)
Of course Paul had some learning to do and walking out His salvation... but, it was just a devil and nothing that God sent since God cannot tempt man with evil:
James 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man
Apparently Paul did end up being free from that messenger of satan...
Acts 28:30,31
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,
Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
So yeah, we need context as in knowing that when God told Paul "my grace is sufficient" the Lord was telling Him that what Paul received when getting born again was more than enough to whip the devil.
What would be absolutely hilarious if it weren't so sad is... satan has tricked many Christians in to believing that it's either not possible to not be slapped around by the devil and his demons... OR, he tricks many in to believing God is slapping people around or that somehow God is working hand in hand with satan to bring bad things upon people just to teach them rather than using the written Word and the Holy Spirit.
Now that is slow... nuthin like a little religious false teaching eh???
But hey, who am I to stand in the way of you and your devils... enjoy the testings, temptations, and trials!
satan has a storm with your name on it heading your way... and he intends to deceive you in to thinking God is bring it on you or God does not deliver folk from the whiles of the devil.
Funny how so many Christians cannot see and understand satan's tricks when God gives us all the answers in His Word so we'll recognize them.
It's always good to look at context so we know what God is saying instead of just pulling a verse out to make it say what we want or what we think it means. the afflictions Paul spoke of were the persecutions he endured in Antioch, Iconic and Lystra. God delivered him from those who persecuted him.
We became IN CHRIST and received citizenship in God's Kingdom where we were raised up to sit in heavenly places in Christ Jesus, far above all principality power and might and dominion (Ephesians 1:19-21)
In the account some claim God told Paul He refused to deliver Paul... it clearly states that it was not sickness but a "messenger of satan" (2 Corinthians 12:7) meaning... wait for it... it was a devil!
This simply means satan assigned a devil to continually oppose Paul to attempt to prevent Paul from being successful in turning as many to Christ as possible and to try and prevent churches from being established.
Now, we know God does not call a man to go do something and then turn around and come against the man to prevent him from doing what the Lord told him to go do, right? Surely even religious people can understand God is not a schizophrenic! God is not opposing Paul here...
Reckon Paul did not know what Jesus said in the Great Commission when He said "these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils (Mark 16:17)
Of course Paul had some learning to do and walking out His salvation... but, it was just a devil and nothing that God sent since God cannot tempt man with evil:
James 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man
Apparently Paul did end up being free from that messenger of satan...
Acts 28:30,31
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,
Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
So yeah, we need context as in knowing that when God told Paul "my grace is sufficient" the Lord was telling Him that what Paul received when getting born again was more than enough to whip the devil.
What would be absolutely hilarious if it weren't so sad is... satan has tricked many Christians in to believing that it's either not possible to not be slapped around by the devil and his demons... OR, he tricks many in to believing God is slapping people around or that somehow God is working hand in hand with satan to bring bad things upon people just to teach them rather than using the written Word and the Holy Spirit.
Now that is slow... nuthin like a little religious false teaching eh???
But hey, who am I to stand in the way of you and your devils... enjoy the testings, temptations, and trials!
satan has a storm with your name on it heading your way... and he intends to deceive you in to thinking God is bring it on you or God does not deliver folk from the whiles of the devil.
Funny how so many Christians cannot see and understand satan's tricks when God gives us all the answers in His Word so we'll recognize them.
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